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1 hour ago, RobSS said:

If someone could post evidence of Javid actually going back on his word on such an important issue in the past, I would be interested in seeing that as i always welcome honest discussion and if there's evidence for something, I'll be more than happy to acknowledge what the evidence shows.

 

Labour accuse the government of further 'confusion' over face masks

Labour have accused the government of creating further confusion over face masks.

Last week Boris Johnson said the legal mandate to wear face masks in enclosed places would end on 'Freedom Day' on 19 July.

However, this morning Vaccines Minister Nadhim Zahawi said the government would be releasing guidance on Monday stating that people will still be "expected" to wear face masks indoors.

It comes as Health Secretary Sajid Javid told The Sunday Telegraph anyone who would not wear a mask in an enclosed space was "just being irresponsible".

This morning, Labour's shadow health secretary Jonathan Ashworth tweeted: "The latest of Sajid Javid’s summer flip flops… He and his ministers now saying masks will be expected indoors after last week ruling them out.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-covid-news-vaccines-minister-confident-about-19-july-freedom-day-but-it-has-to-be-done-cautiously-12353386

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1 hour ago, DaleP said:

 

That's not a good news. First they said two weeks to flatten the curve and see where we are. They also said they will never bring the vax passport....and they will eventually. They will flip flop again. No mandatory, yeah mandatory, no mandatory etc....

they are perpetual liars and will introduce mandatory jabs...when the time suits them..i would,nt piss on these arseholes if they were on fire...would you ?

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18 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Throw your cell phone away.

 

I don't have one. And I never sign in anywhere I go. 

 

So good luck tracing me. 

 

car number plate tracking cameras and facial recognition not to mention any time you use your bank card and they know where you are. The danger with mandates is that they would go to your home

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2 hours ago, skitzorat said:

 

There's not a page on any thread in this forum where you comment and don't seem come across truly delusional, that fact that you can even delude yourself with such sincerity in those comments is really a gift to behold

 

Out of laugh. 😆

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11 minutes ago, soulalways said:

they are perpetual liars and will introduce mandatory jabs...when the time suits them..i would,nt piss on these arseholes if they were on fire...would you ?

Test the water, how much pushback. When we all know masks are completely hopeless and pointless.

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2 hours ago, SimonTV said:

This one double vaccinated guy at work who had issues after his vaccines (not the one with kidney issues who called me an anti-vaxxer) but this other guy who had the swollen blood bubble on his elbow, he has covid now. haha i did laugh. 

 

During the summer, I kept seeing people with a strange bruise just above the elbow, lower part of triceps. I had a spontaneous bruise there as well. 😔

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6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

Labour accuse the government of further 'confusion' over face masks

Labour have accused the government of creating further confusion over face masks.

Last week Boris Johnson said the legal mandate to wear face masks in enclosed places would end on 'Freedom Day' on 19 July.

However, this morning Vaccines Minister Nadhim Zahawi said the government would be releasing guidance on Monday stating that people will still be "expected" to wear face masks indoors.

It comes as Health Secretary Sajid Javid told The Sunday Telegraph anyone who would not wear a mask in an enclosed space was "just being irresponsible".

This morning, Labour's shadow health secretary Jonathan Ashworth tweeted: "The latest of Sajid Javid’s summer flip flops… He and his ministers now saying masks will be expected indoors after last week ruling them out.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-covid-news-vaccines-minister-confident-about-19-july-freedom-day-but-it-has-to-be-done-cautiously-12353386

 

In the post you've just replied to, I asked for evidence of Javid going back on his word on important issues. Face masks are not such an important issue as vaccine mandates for the entire population, and vaccine passports, and I did say in previous posts that governments do perform u-turns. Why won't you acknowledge that? So if anyone has evidence of Javid going back on his word on an important issue I'd still be interested in reading the evidence. Face masks are an important issue but they're not in the same league as forcing people to have the jab or forcing people to have a health passport for travelling, and going shopping, or for just to be alive. Even in periods when face mask rules were more strictly enforced, I said I was exempt and never had a problem, apart from when I was recently in Scotland, at Aberdeen Airport.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, DaleP said:

 

During the summer, I kept seeing people with a strange bruise just above the elbow, lower part of triceps. I had a spontaneous bruise there as well. 😔

 

I had to sit next to this vaccinated guy for another month about 4 hours per week in a car. The guy took the booster and I have chest pains after sitting next to him. I am concerned but seem ok now. I got realy cold and had to lie under the covers and then felt better after a sleep. I do still pick up a chest infection every time though as he is always full with cold and his memory is completely gone, he admits it himself. 

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15 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

car number plate tracking cameras and facial recognition not to mention any time you use your bank card and they know where you are. The danger with mandates is that they would go to your home

I only use cash. Unless online obviously.

 

Sure they could show my car was on a highway at a particular time. But that is not going to establish that I came into contact with anyone.

 

As far as I am aware contact tracing is limited to QR codes.

 

Yep, turning up at your home is the big risk. 

 

But if they claimed I was at a particular place and I deny it that is where it gets interesting.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

I had to sit next to this vaccinated guy for another month about 4 hours per week in a car. The guy took the booster and I have chest pains after sitting next to him. I am concerned but seem ok now. I got realy cold and had to lie under the covers and then felt better after a sleep. I do still pick up a chest infection every time though as he is always full with cold and his memory is completely gone, he admits it himself. 

this seems to be a recurring factor for the unjabbed mixing with the jabbed and getting strange side effects..as i posted previously on this subject there does seem to be some credibility on this theme..as my wife & i too had flu like symptoms....weird ?

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21 minutes ago, Sheepy said:

Test the water, how much pushback. When we all know masks are completely hopeless and pointless.

 

We know but majority don't.

How many people know 911 was an inside job? That was 20 years ago. Or do they really care?

How many people know that jabs are classified as poison and 100s of governmental organisations have said they don't hold virus info....... We haven't even reached asking a question "So what are they tesing?" or "It's a fantasy test."

 

I think we need to go and do what we like tbh.

Of course that involves non-compliance to their legal system and say yes to the law.

Unplug yourself from the ponzy scheme....I mean current financial system, and use the one that's been provided to us by the people from all over the world.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, DaleP said:

 

We know but majority don't.

How many people know 911 was an inside job? That was 20 years ago. Or do they really care?

How many people know that jabs are classified as poison and 100s of governmental organisations have said they don't hold virus info....... We haven't even reached asking a question "So what are they tesing?" or "It's a fantasy test."

 

I think we need to go and do what we like tbh.

Of course that involves non-compliance to their legal system and say yes to the law.

Unplug yourself from the ponzy scheme....I mean current financial system, and use the one that's been provided to us by the people from all over the world.

 

 

 

out of likes...nice one!

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11 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

I had to sit next to this vaccinated guy for another month about 4 hours per week in a car. The guy took the booster and I have chest pains after sitting next to him. I am concerned but seem ok now. I got realy cold and had to lie under the covers and then felt better after a sleep. I do still pick up a chest infection every time though as he is always full with cold and his memory is completely gone, he admits it himself. 

Do you still have to sit next to him in a car hours on end?

If you are a driving instructor, give him to someone else e.g. vaxxed. I'd refuse...just make up an excuse.

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6 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

But were you in it? People do lend their cars out.

Exactly.

 

And I am very absent minded. Always leaving the keys in my unlocked car. I did think it was using a lot of fuel lately.

 

Though I suspect it would be a team of jack booted thugs turning up. Not a stoned bureaucrat with a clipboard.

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8 minutes ago, soulalways said:

this seems to be a recurring factor for the unjabbed mixing with the jabbed and getting strange side effects..as i posted previously on this subject there does seem to be some credibility on this theme..as my wife & i too had flu like symptoms....weird ?

After mixing with the vaxxed I had flu symptoms. Just the start. Necked some colloidal silver and they went away. But I had a clogged ear for a month afterwards. Never had that before.

 

Vax shedding is very real.

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5 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

After mixing with the vaxxed I had flu symptoms. Just the start. Necked some colloidal silver and they went away. But I had a clogged ear for a month afterwards. Never had that before.

 

Vax shedding is very real.

well i,ve started to stay clear of the vaxxed ..just instinct...there,s something in this ..irony that they may be poisoning the clean!

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17 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

I only use cash. Unless online obviously.

 

I watched an interview with Snowden where he claimed cash counting machines were used to track money using serial numbers. It's very difficult to get off the grid and anyway they can always just follow you.

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3 minutes ago, Diesel said:

I watched an interview with Snowden where he claimed cash counting machines were used to track money using serial numbers. It's very difficult to get off the grid and anyway they can always just follow you.

Did this include ATMs?

 

Or just the machines used in movies like Scarface? 

 

I agree that you cannot get off the  grid completely. But you can make it more difficult for them.

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