allymisfit Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: There are loads of videos of empty testing sites been floating around last few weeks in the UK. Yet we are told hundreds of thousands of tests a day. That is a blatant scam. Then the test itself we know is a total scam. The admissions to hospital is a scam, as they test anybody who go's in & then label them a covid case. Anyone who dies after being tested positive for any reason is listed as a covid case. So all you need to do is test lots of old people or very sick, get a few positives false or real..you are bound to get a few deaths so can keep scam going. The death certificates are a scam. The hospitals are not full. Theres been nobody collapsing in the street & all the countries surrounding Wuhan China didnt suffer hardly any deaths. HongKong, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan..................??? They have found covid1984 in the shit from March 2019 if im correct also. Then they have these long covid BS & also ther Kawasaki they tried to blame..which from what I see, looks more like radiation burns. Which a lot of people complained during lockdown were feeling burning sensations to their skin everynight, including myself. Not sure about the 5g but they were up to something & its got fuck all to do with flu. Dunno what dark winter they have in store, but I agree with GR listening to Gates megalomaniac chuckling to himself about a second pandemic. Extremely disturbing & 500,000 people demanded he be investigated...yet not a word from Trump about it. Interesting you mentioned burning.. There are times my hands feel like they're on fire. It happens randomly and only lasts a couple of mins. Never thought about radiation burns :o 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 https://twitter.com/AntiLockdownW/status/1320346542579109888?s=20 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: There are loads of videos of empty testing sites been floating around last few weeks in the UK. Yet we are told hundreds of thousands of tests a day. That is a blatant scam. Then the test itself we know is a total scam. The admissions to hospital is a scam, as they test anybody who go's in & then label them a covid case. Anyone who dies after being tested positive for any reason is listed as a covid case. So all you need to do is test lots of old people or very sick, get a few positives false or real..you are bound to get a few deaths so can keep scam going. The death certificates are a scam. The hospitals are not full. Theres been nobody collapsing in the street & all the countries surrounding Wuhan China didnt suffer hardly any deaths. HongKong, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan..................??? They have found covid1984 in the shit from March 2019 if im correct also. Then they have these long covid BS & also ther Kawasaki they tried to blame..which from what I see, looks more like radiation burns. Which a lot of people complained during lockdown were feeling burning sensations to their skin everynight, including myself. Not sure about the 5g but they were up to something & its got fuck all to do with flu. Dunno what dark winter they have in store, but I agree with GR listening to Gates megalomaniac chuckling to himself about a second pandemic. Extremely disturbing & 500,000 people demanded he be investigated...yet not a word from Trump about it. Out of likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, FrankVitali said: I compare it to the bubonic plague where carts were going around taking away the bodies. bubonic was bacteria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy Talk Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Theres been nobody collapsing in the street & all the countries surrounding Wuhan China didnt suffer hardly any deaths. HongKong, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan..................??? Couple of days ago I texted a western mate who works in Hong Kong to ask if there's anyone questioning the virus out there. He replied: 'They not only believe in it, they worship it!' Make of that what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Ecki Divad said: I've answered your question in bold already. Re-read the relevant post. It's disingenuous to say that just because somebody lies, you must assume every fact they state is a lie. On the same basis, lots of people on here lie or get things wrong, it doesn't follow that they always lie or always get things wrong. What you have to consider is the statement on its merits, of course taking into account the reputation of the source. If I completely trusted the CDC, I wouldn't be asking the question, would I. Nevertheless, the CDC state as scientific fact that they have isolated the virus. It follows that they are either lying or they have made a mistake. Thus, I must repeat my question (which nobody has answered): Are they lying? If they are lying, why would they do this given the nature of the subject-matter is easily replicable and falsifiable by other scientists? Why invent a fictitious virus when they can easily exaggerate a real one? What would be the point? Why take such a needless risk? Clue: 'LOL' is not an answer to these questions. Being arrogant and pretending you know it all is not an answer to these questions. The Rockefeller Foundation founded the agency until governments took over some of its efforts, in collaboration with the Rockefeller Snake-Oil Salesmen. They sprayed the US in toxic DDT until it was proven to causes cancer and was banned worldwide. They told us AIDS came from a monkey, when it came from a vaccine and that Cov-Sars-2 came from a bat. A whistleblower exposed the fraud and data manipulation by the CDC in covering up the fact that vaccines cause autism. They also retain a repository of smallpox, which they “misplaced.” and admitted having sent samples of communicable diseases to the Iraqi government from 1984 through 1989 which were subsequently repurposed for biological warfare, including Botulism, West Nile virus and Dengue fever. Virus' are not contagious and do not come from animals, they come from a hypodermic syringe, IMHO. I would not trust anything coming from this corporation. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 More and more people are waking up every day, a second Europe wide lockdown is on the way, its reaching shit or get off the pot time if we don't want our freedoms and livelihoods taken away forever. I don't know if anyone else is feeling what I'm feeling but there is a tension in the streets, something is coming... Mass civil disobedience is the only way. I'm going to make it my mission to spread the information as much as I can in the coming months and in some small way help this become a reality. I'd encourage everybody on this forum to do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecki Divad Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) .... Edited October 25, 2020 by Ecki Divad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Illmatic said: More and more people are waking up every day, a second Europe wide lockdown is on the way, its reaching shit or get off the pot time if we don't want our freedoms and livelihoods taken away forever. I don't know if anyone else is feeling what I'm feeling but there is a tension in the streets, something is coming... Mass civil disobedience is the only way. I'm going to make it my mission to spread the information as much as I can in the coming months and in some small way help this become a reality. I'd encourage everybody on this forum to do the same. Out of likes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecki Divad Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Seeker said: I trust the cdc as far as I can throw their building. As for these links I’ve had a read through and unless I’m missing something, it isn’t clear that they’ve isolated it and made it meet Koch’s postulates, they ‘got it’ from a guy who travelled from China to Washington and tested positive with pcr, there’s the first red flag for me, then it goes into genome stuff but nothing about actually isolating it from the rest of the genetic material, like I say maybe I missed something That's a fair response, and I don't personally know. I'm not a virologist. Do we have any virologists on here or anybody with the necessary scientific literacy to make sense of this stuff? I could do it myself, but it would be a labour to have to read through it all. To be honest, my point remains: The CDC assert a plain fact. If this is a false fact, that means they're lying. I know they do lie, but would they lie about something like that on which they can easily be caught out by any scientist in the relevant specialism? Or is it, as you suggest, a matter of interpretation and their methods are flawed? Edited October 25, 2020 by Ecki Divad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Shy Talk said: Couple of days ago I texted a western mate who works in Hong Kong to ask if there's anyone questioning the virus out there. He replied: 'They not only believe in it, they worship it!' Make of that what you will. They are suffering from the same media mind virus, even tho during the Wuhan scam around 6 people died allegedly of covid in HongKong. Same results in all countries surrounding China. None of them countries I mentioned locked down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecki Divad Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, lake said: They have exaggerated a real (for real read as mainstream) one. It is called the 'flu'. You may have heard of it? You know, now in the UK they, since the 8th Oct, will combine the flu stats with covid and in the States they will nolonger report flu figures from this month. We are now in the normal 'flu' season once again. Does that not make you consider things? The CDC is a vaccine promoter and I guess it is likely that they profit from the distribution and sales of vaccines as does billy gates. Believe that which you wish. If the last 8 months has not shown you the truth then nothing ever will. This is just your own supposition, mixed in with rhetoric and condescension. You're saying they lie, therefore they must be lying about this. I'm saying they lie, but that doesn't mean everything they say in all particulars is a lie. For one thing, lies can be based on truths. I think this is a fairly reasonable position to take. There could be a virus that they're lying about. To be honest, you come across as very condescending when you tell me that I'm not seeing the truth. What is this 'truth'? What makes you uniquely qualified as the repository of the truth? Do you know everything? Are you a scientist and specialist in a relevant field? Are you a medical doctor? Are you a virologist? What are your credentials, please, to be talking down to me like this, as if I'm a six year-old child? I'm not taking 'sides' here. I'm just trying to see things objectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAwakened Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 So many people wearing masks on the street still. I'm trying to be hopeful but I don't think we're going to win. The masses have been duped. Everyone believes the scam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecki Divad Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, zarkov said: Invisible menaces such as evil spirits, ghosts and ghouls dominated during the fearful dark ages and still do to some extent. The religious entities used such fear/menace to good effect in efforts to exert control. If the opportunity arose to create yet another invisible menace then would not one take that opportunity. The religious precendent for using fear as a catalyst for change is well established! and undoubtedly well comprehended. The correct question is- Why wouldnt they? Of course, this could be true. It's not that I'm saying you are wrong, I'm just trying to develop a view based on evidence and facts. I have produced links that state plainly that the CDC, the leading government agency in the United States, has isolated the virus. That leaves us with three possibilities: 1. The CDC are lying and there is some sort of fraud or other vast political and criminal conspiracy going on. 2. The CDC are mistaken or negligent. 3. The CDC are telling the truth, but authorities worldwide have overreacted to the virus, and this over-reaction may also entail fraud or some sort of sinister organised political agenda. I'd like to know which it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneantisworthtenofyou Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Dr explains why Koch’s postulates are common sense and the only true way to prove causation using this standard they were unable to substantiate germ contagion theory the transmission from person to person or animal so they abandoned Koch’s postulates because it didn't fit their agenda of manipulation of causation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Ecki Divad said: That's a fair response, and I don't personally know. I'm not a virologist. Do we have any virologists on here or anybody with the necessary scientific literacy to make sense of this stuff? I could do it myself, but it would be a labour to have to read through it all. To be honest, my point remains: The CDC assert a plain fact. If this is a false fact, that means they're lying. I know they do lie, but would they lie about something like that on which they can easily be caught out by any scientist in the relevant specialism? Or is it, as you suggest, a matter of interpretation and their methods are flawed? The cdc also says the gold standard is the rt-pcr test, which as we know doesn’t even look for a virus and is being manipulated with doing far more cycles of amplification than they should be doing, I have seen claims that deep in a cdc report they say they have no covid 19 isolates at the time but I can’t find it, could be fake. There is a great deal of scientists speaking out about this but we don’t hear much about it because they get censored, some also observe they will lose their job if they do speak out, at the same time some scientists do believe in it, these scientists also believe in the dogma of masks and vaccines or are funded by big pharma/ bill gates, depends where they get their info from I guess Edited October 25, 2020 by Seeker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankVitali Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, zArk said: bubonic was bacteria Ok fair point Zark, but what I basically meant with my remark was this covid isn't as deadly as that. Whether virus or bacteria, people are not dropping dead in the street are they, no-one coming round putting big X's on the doors. Regardless, most of you probably know, but something called colloidal silver shifts all this. Whether it is bacterial or viral.. And no it doesn't turn you blue that is propaganda yet again.. Don't be fooled. Don't want to 'teach my grandma how to suck an egg' but those who are unaware should look into it. I've been taking it for years. BUt when I learnt about Hydroxychloroquine and Zinc. I've started having colloidal zinc too. and I haven't been ill whatsoever. And plenty Vitamin C & D too!! I take 3000mg effervescent Vit C a day, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankVitali Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 The CDC are funded hundreds of millions from B&M Gates so no i don't trust them at all. Nor Fauci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, TheAwakened said: So many people wearing masks on the street still. I'm trying to be hopeful but I don't think we're going to win. The masses have been duped. Everyone believes the scam. Just remember that the easily led will always follow the crowd, but this goes in both directions. The more inspiring and passionate leaders we have on our side, the more the slightly less "big thinkers" you might say will join the cause. The situation might look hopeless from what you see on the street but Internet comment sections are full of people calling out this scam, when the vast majority were for it back in March. We've seen with the Great Barrington Declaration that even a crooked media has to report such things when they are public enough. This is what we need, more doctors, scientists, business owners and the general population grouping to rise up and say their piece. Think tanks, meetings and small acts of rebellion every little helps. Even if it feels like you can do nothing, you can do a lot, by even just talking to people you know who may be becoming a little bit doubtful and referring them to the likes of Mike Yeadon or Ivor Cummins. And there's no stopping anyone handing out leaflets, starting small demonstrations or getting a guitar out and writing some anti-lockdown music, because God knows there hasn't been enough. Now is the time, we've all got to get out of our comfort zone because we are heading for a world where me writing this comment on an Internet forum is probably going to be an arrestable offense. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy Talk Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: They are suffering from the same media mind virus, even tho during the Wuhan scam around 6 people died allegedly of covid in HongKong. Same results in all countries surrounding China. None of them countries I mentioned locked down. Agreed. It's frustrating/worrying that even in countries where the death rate is negligible they are going along with the official narrative of a deadly virus. It may be because such countries have a long history of subjugation and are easy to manipulate. The West has no excuse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lake Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 34 minutes ago, Ecki Divad said: as if I'm a six year-old child Your words mate, lets just look at the username you decided to use! You telling me that isn't childish? But of course you didn't address any point I made, just became offended or tried to portray such. 3 hours ago, lake said: now in the UK they, since the 8th Oct, will combine the flu stats with covid and in the States they will nolonger report flu figures from this month. We are now in the normal 'flu' season once again. Does that not make you consider things? The CDC is a vaccine promoter and I guess it is likely that they profit from the distribution and sales of vaccines as does billy gates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I blame Romero and the glamour of tv/film viruses Hyper-reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAwakened Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 People have subconsciously been programmed to believe mass pandemics can happen. Its been all through our television sets for dozens of years now. Pre-programming... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 If you want to know your "rights" under the Draconian Covid Diktats, Tracy O'Mahony spells it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR-E Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 make others aware you are awake & they are not alone..... bang some lids - ring a bell - fireworks - car horns the louder the better 7pm every night make some noise . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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