Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[SoundOfSilence]

15 hours ago, oneantisworthtenofyou said:

 

This is the mantra of the freemen on the land folk who also use this to attempt not to pay council tax etc

while i agree with the sentiment of not causing harm or loss and remaining honorable with any contracts you have

agreed to

to enforce this freeman stuff seems extremely difficult

the courts dismiss it they won't even hear the arguments when folk start quoting magna carta 1215

 

one of the founder members of this movement Winston shrout is currently in jail

unfortunately so many of these freeman gurus end up in jail or dead like "John the carpenter Harris" 

 

 

The reason is that it is nonsense.

 

At least as far as I have been able to discern. Though I am open to evidence.

 

But every time I look into the legal arguments underlying the theory they are woefully inadequate.

 

 

[alexa]

Cinema in Wales is told to shut after owner REFUSES to ask customers for Covid passes - as council chiefs reveal they are 'considering further steps' and say they could keep the venue closed for up to 28 days

Cinema & Co in Swansea announced on Tuesday it would not enforce the rules which came in this week, extending the Covid pass scheme in Wales to cover cinemas, theatres and concert halls.

DM

[zArk]

7 hours ago, BossCrow said:

 

 

Ugly on the inside is enough for me. Commie, totalitarian , fascist.

She could look like Claudia Schiffer but shes a totalitarian so shes an ugly meff

[zArk]

18 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

The reason is that it is nonsense.

 

At least as far as I have been able to discern. Though I am open to evidence.

 

But every time I look into the legal arguments underlying the theory they are woefully inadequate.

 

 

but thats the poiint as why its all nonsense because law and legal do not mix

 

Oxymoron

 

these con artists / commie agitators call their method 'sovereign citizen' . The two do not mix.

 

they are using a hotchpotch of common law (both Common Law and common law ) and gathering socially disaffected people in an attempt to

 

over load the court system and disrupt the waterboard or council

 

if you want common law and court of record goto Bill Thornton 1215.org or Karl Lentz

Bill has a thorough lesson on procedure, forms, honour/dishonour etc

[Observed]

7 hours ago, BossCrow said:

Let me make it very clear how this scenario pans out. Either he 100% pushes the agenda from his puppet masters or he is done for. There's already rumours of him touching young girls, so it tells us he is starting to crack. They circulate this rumour as a warning that if he does not push the agenda, he will be jailed for God knows what or assassinated or something. 

 

[zArk]

18 minutes ago, alexa said:

Cinema in Wales is told to shut after owner REFUSES to ask customers for Covid passes - as council chiefs reveal they are 'considering further steps' and say they could keep the venue closed for up to 28 days

eh?

so the council say "shut the doors or we *could* apply to keep your doors shut for 28day"

 

28 days --- always pops up. Moon, menstrual, repayments of debt, etc etc

[SoundOfSilence]

10 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

That's what everyone is talking about today. Hitler as per usual. Doesn't anyone think it odd that Austria is the first country to propose mandatory vaccines? I do.

 

This isn't in defense of National Socialism nor Hitler but in my opinion what we are seeing today is more a communistic method of totalitarinism with behavioural scientists dictating to Govenments, but fascism is the buzz word because of the holocaust narrative.

 

What we are seeing is Fascism.

 

Fascism is a type of Socialism whereby governments and corporations collaborate to control the factors of production.

 

In Nazi Fascism the government controlled the corporations. Today it is the other way around. The corporations control the government.

 

But it is still Fascism.

 

Communism is the form of Socialism where the government controls the factors of production.

[zArk]

16 hours ago, oneantisworthtenofyou said:

 

This is the mantra of the freemen on the land folk who also use this to attempt not to pay council tax etc

while i agree with the sentiment of not causing harm or loss and remaining honorable with any contracts you have

agreed to

to enforce this freeman stuff seems extremely difficult

the courts dismiss it they won't even hear the arguments when folk start quoting magna carta 1215

 

one of the founder members of this movement Winston shrout is currently in jail

unfortunately so many of these freeman gurus end up in jail or dead like "John the carpenter Harris" 

 

 

 

well thats true because the 'freeman on the land' is a load of codswhallop and will get people into a lot of trouble.

 

however using ones Court of Record is completely different.

Judges run their own Court of Record , this is the foundation of their power and authority

 

If someone agrees to be part of the 'county court' or the 'magistrates court' or the '****** court', one is subject to that court. The court is created by the Judge. The Judge is the Sovereign.

 

the 'freeman-on-the-land' or sovereign citizen or the power to the people common law brigade keep everyone in the dark so when the shit hits the fan and the Judge decides against the 'soveriegn citizen' or FOTL they scream

 

"CORRUPTION! , THE JUDGES ARE CORRUPT"

 

commie agitators. deliberately spreading ignorance of the system.

 

https://1215.org/lawnotes/misc/pro-se-problem.htm

 

Quote

Most pro se people know nothing about the official Rules of Evidence that control the judge and all parties and their lawyers.
      Most pro se people know nothing about the official Rules of Procedure that control the judge and all parties and their lawyers.
      Most pro se people have no idea what "due process" really is.
      Most pro se people can't recognize the opposing lawyer's dirty tricks.
      Most pro se people assume what "admissible evidence" is and don't know what stuff isn't.
      Most pro se people draft their pleadings and motions incorrectly - usually with far too many words!
      Most pro se people don't know why it's vital to write proposed orders for the judge to sign.
      Most pro se people don't know why, when, or how to make effective objections in court.
      Most pro se people don't understand what facts are critical to winning a case and what facts are of no consequence.
      Most pro se people muddy the legal waters with court-confusing insignificance.
      Most pro se people don't know how to find and cite controlling appellate opinions in support of their motions.
      Most pro se people don't arrange in advance of every proceeding to have a court stenographer present, so they can control the judge.
      Most pro se people waste valuable court time with non-essentials, fail to appreciate the needs of others who have other problems to bring before the court and, as a consequence, tend to make judges dread pro se cases and hate pro se people.

 

Edited November 20, 2021 by zArk

[zArk]

16 hours ago, Morpheus said:

So if a person is a corporation and a mandate only applies to corporations/persons, therefore a mandate is consensual and therefore not enforceable upon a human being.

 

Karl Lentz enlightened the word game regarding 'self identification' i.e

 

at court a sovereign is a sovereign. a sovereign is not defendant. a sovereign is not 'human being'.

 

the 2 are not the same and one is their jurisdiction.

 

another word game (its a serious game) is reading who the claimant /complainant is against oneself i.e

 

'the crown' or 'CPS'. At common law, with your own court, one can demand the claimant 'appear' at court.

 

yes , CPS, not the lawyer or solicitor but with ones Court of Record require 'face your accuser" Its a superior court. Demand the appearance of 'CPS'

 

another Karl Lentz was

"read the Law that you accuse Zark of breaking"

 

a person shall not do this and that

 

"thats not Zark. Zark is not named. Wheres the fucking contract that Zark signed agreeing to be bound to that Law?"

 

If one becomes the defendant, one is subject to the claimants law. The claimants law says YOU are a person, says YOU are subject to the Law.

YOU is a person, YOU is a subject.

 

The posh folk speak propa english . Listen to the Queen or Charlie speak. Its all

 

One is pleased

One is grateful

One is .....

if you were to 'address' the Queen with "how you doing"

it would be interpreted as ignorance and rudeness. Positioning the Queen as subject to oneself

Edited November 20, 2021 by zArk

[SoundOfSilence]

24 minutes ago, zArk said:

but thats the poiint as why its all nonsense because law and legal do not mix

 

Oxymoron

 

these con artists / commie agitators call their method 'sovereign citizen' . The two do not mix.

 

they are using a hotchpotch of common law (both Common Law and common law ) and gathering socially disaffected people in an attempt to

 

over load the court system and disrupt the waterboard or council

 

if you want common law and court of record goto Bill Thornton 1215.org or Karl Lentz

Bill has a thorough lesson on procedure, forms, honour/dishonour etc

I'll have a look.

 

But here is my issue.

 

None of this is taught in law schools.

 

I am not aware of it. No lawyer I have spoken to is aware of it. No barrister I have spoken to is aware of it. No QC I have spoken to is aware of it.

 

So for the theory to be correct it would have to be something that only every single judge and magistrate is aware of, but no legal practitioner. At least those whom I know.

 

Of course this is possible. But I would submit quite unlikely.

 

But my bigger problem with it is this.

 

Say I am at home quietly enjoying an adult beverage and some thug decides to break in and grab my turntable. Of course I can hold up the criminal law and point out the illegal nature of his actions.

 

But I doubt that will get me very far.

 

Criminals do not obey the law.

 

Now what if those criminals happen to be the politicians and judges. Which they do.

 

We all know that they completely disregard the law.

 

So even if this common law stuff is correct. What is to prevent it from being ignored along with all of the other laws?

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

I'll have a look.

 

But here is my issue.

 

None of this is taught in law schools.

 

I am not aware of it. No lawyer I have spoken to is aware of it. No barrister I have spoken to is aware of it. No QC I have spoken to is aware of it.

 

So for the theory to be correct it would have to be something that only every single judge and magistrate is aware of, but no legal practitioner. At least those whom I know.

 

Of course this is possible. But I would submit quite unlikely.

 

But my bigger problem with it is this.

 

Say I am at home quietly enjoying an adult beverage and some thug decides to break in and grab my turntable. Of course I can hold up the criminal law and point out the illegal nature of his actions.

 

But I doubt that will get me very far.

 

Criminals do not obey the law.

 

Now what if those criminals happen to be the politicians and judges. Which they do.

 

We all know that they completely disregard the law.

 

So even if this common law stuff is correct. What is to prevent it from being ignored along with all of the other laws?

Indeed. 

 

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"

 

Aleister Crowley.

 

We are dealing with Luciferians from top to bottom.

[Orange Alert]

57 minutes ago, alexa said:

Cinema in Wales is told to shut after owner REFUSES to ask customers for Covid passes - as council chiefs reveal they are 'considering further steps' and say they could keep the venue closed for up to 28 days

Cinema & Co in Swansea announced on Tuesday it would not enforce the rules which came in this week, extending the Covid pass scheme in Wales to cover cinemas, theatres and concert halls.

DM

 

 It's nice to read that the owner is still defing the NWO's rules, by continuing not to check the NHS electronic prison passes and is keeping the cinema open.

[Mr H]

Seriously kicking off in Europe

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10223105/Police-fire-warning-shots-protesters-Rotterdam-tensions-boil-new-Covid-restrictions.html

[SoundOfSilence]

This links to a copy of Pfizer's agreement with the government of Albania. I understand that the agreements with all governments are very similar.

 

Albania-Pfizer.pdf (ti-health.org)

 

I have only skimmed parts of it.

 

The definition of product in clause 1.42 is interesting (my emphasis).

 

" ... any or all related strains, mutations, modifications or derivatives of the foregoing."

 

Strains and mutations I get. After all, these can occur naturally.

 

But modifications?

 

That doesn't seem like a very natural process to me.

 

As if we needed any more evidence that the kung flu is manufactured.

[Golden Retriever]

MASSIVE

 

 

[Useyournous]

I'm going to keep an eye on the local Aldi with the hope it appears quieter.

[alexa]

1 hour ago, Orange Alert said:

 

 It's nice to read that the owner is still defing the NWO's rules, by continuing not to check the NHS electronic prison passes and is keeping the cinema open.

 

Yes! The Welsh are very stubborn. 

[alexa]

1 hour ago, Golden Retriever said:

MASSIVE

 

 

 

 Not many there are there ?

[Sheepy]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

Indeed. 

 

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"

 

Aleister Crowley.

 

We are dealing with Luciferians from top to bottom.

Do you reckon, I reckon we are being sold slow but sure depopulation under the guise of we are saving you and the NHS. Which they also pointed out if they had a smaller population it would need to run under fascism.

Edited November 20, 2021 by Sheepy

[Velma]

14 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

Another lot of shite propaganda from the Scottish Government, paid for by the taxpayer.

Where is Braveheart, when you need him?

 

@Velma

@Macnamara

 

 

 

 

Their masked zombie obedience is cringeworthy.

 

I'm starting to think it's better to be sorry than safe.

[Sheepy]

In fact, Velma if anybody had bothered listening to the great reset crew that is what they are telling us they are in the middle of doing.

[Velma]

11 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

stormzy is part of the agenda:

Stars lend voices to world-spanning concert for climate, vaccines

AFP - Sep 25

A "once-in-a-generation" music event circled the world Saturday, with a slew of megastars taking the stage in New York and beyond for Global Citizen Live -- 24 hours of shows across the planet to raise awareness on climate change, vaccine equality and famine. 

Between star-studded sets of some of the biggest names in music -- including Elton John, BTS, Coldplay, Lizzo, Jennifer Lopez and Billie Eilish -- actors, politicians, company executives, royals, actors and activists made appeals or announced donations to tackle major global challenges.

Ed Sheeran was the headliner in Paris alongside Black Eyed Peas and Stormzy.

The concerts required Covid-19 vaccination proof or negative tests.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/harry-meghan-lend-voices-to-world-spanning-concert-for-climate-vaccines/ar-AAOOIwk

 

After Astroworld?

 

Nah, I think I'll pass on live concerts featuring mediocre "megastars."

 

The only thing that will be "mega" is the in-your-face Satanic ritual.

 

 

[Velma]

11 hours ago, alexa said:

 

Orban said,

 

In the end, everyone will have to be vaccinated; even the anti-vaxxers will realize that they will either get vaccinated or die. So, I urge everyone to take this opportunity.

 

 

The only thing that is guaranteed in life, is death.

 

Unless you are transhuman and can be upgraded.

 

Forever........

 

(Revelation 9:6) “And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.”

[Sexpistol50]

4 hours ago, alexa said:

Cinema in Wales is told to shut after owner REFUSES to ask customers for Covid passes - as council chiefs reveal they are 'considering further steps' and say they could keep the venue closed for up to 28 days

Cinema & Co in Swansea announced on Tuesday it would not enforce the rules which came in this week, extending the Covid pass scheme in Wales to cover cinemas, theatres and concert halls.

DM

They want to close down all cinemas, that's why shops like Tesco's are selling huge 65inch 4k smart TVs , they want people to stay at home streaming the latest movies and watching Amazon Prime and Netflix and using Just eat to buy shit like Macdonalds while they watch movies on their 65 inch 4k television, they don't want people gathering in cinemas they want you to wear your mask , get all your Vaccines go home and keep your mouth shut.

[Velma]

5 hours ago, Saved said:

Good grief. 

 

It's a fucking bloke!!