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2 minutes ago, Sheepy said:

I don't actually see why it should boil your blood, you did your best to point out how illogical it is, which makes you one of the good people, you couldn't do any more than that, it is not like anyone left with half a brain doesn't know the BBC is run rather sinisterly when it comes to social engineering. If they chose to believe the BBC over you, then so be it. 

You’re right.

 

I guess what annoys me is that it hasn’t changed their stance on passports.

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What about the flu vaccine that doesn't stop transmission either.

 

The whole point of the covid jab is to minimise the effect and symptoms of you catch it. Same as a flu jab it's to "protect" yourself..... 

 

Some of the logic portrayed here is quite frankly very skewered it's verging on the brink or paranoia and delusional. I don't mean to be harsh when  I say that. 

 

But I can't sit back and take somebody seriously when they say dumb stuff like it's experimental and could have anything in the ingredients..... 

 

What about the jabs you had at school folks? How do you know they haven't already put harmful substances in system? How do you know you don't ready have nano tech in you? 

 

You wouldn't even know..... 🤣🤣

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15 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

What about the flu vaccine that doesn't stop transmission either.

 

The whole point of the covid jab is to minimise the effect and symptoms of you catch it. Same as a flu jab it's to "protect" yourself..... 

 

Some of the logic portrayed here is quite frankly very skewered it's verging on the brink or paranoia and delusional. I don't mean to be harsh when  I say that. 


But I can't sit back and take somebody seriously when they say dumb stuff like it's experimental and could have anything in the ingredients..... 

Because the vaccines were promoted as the way out of the pandemic. How's that going? Are we out yet, doesn't look like it after 11 months of jabbing. 

Because it is experimental. That's a fact you can't escape from.

If you want the vaxx, go for it, it's your choice. Just don't complain if it doesn't work out like you'd hoped.

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10 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

The whole point of the covid jab is to minimise the effect and symptoms of you catch it. Same as a flu jab it's to "protect" yourself..

So which side effects can you point us towards with the flu jab? which by the way is a totally different kind of technology used in the jab? it is like trying to compare a coal fired power station with a nuclear one.

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16 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

What about the flu vaccine that doesn't stop transmission either.

 

The whole point of the covid jab is to minimise the effect and symptoms of you catch it. Same as a flu jab it's to "protect" yourself..... 

 

Some of the logic portrayed here is quite frankly very skewered it's verging on the brink or paranoia and delusional. I don't mean to be harsh when  I say that. 

 

But I can't sit back and take somebody seriously when they say dumb stuff like it's experimental and could have anything in the ingredients..... 

 

What about the jabs you had at school folks? How do you know they haven't already put harmful substances in system? How do you know you don't ready have nano tech in you? 

 

You wouldn't even know..... 🤣🤣

So crack on then, good luck to you. I hope you have your affairs in order. Peace be with you. 🙏 Let us know the results, until then.... 

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10 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

What about the flu vaccine that doesn't stop transmission either.

 

The flu jab has been causing people a lot of problems through something called 'molecular mimicry' which is just one of those vague terms scientists create when they don't actually know what's going on like 'dark matter' or 'junk DNA'

 

In fact the problems from the flu jabs that were aggressively pushed out onto the ageing populations of UK and italy etc may very well be the cause of many of the symptoms that were then labelled 'covid'

 

10 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

The whole point of the covid jab is to minimise the effect and symptoms of you catch it. Same as a flu jab it's to "protect" yourself..... 

 

Well you go ahead and take it for yourself then and once you've had it why should you then mind if i don't have it because by your own understanding you should now be protected?

 

You do yourself and let me take care of my own health

 

10 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

What about the jabs you had at school folks? How do you know they haven't already put harmful substances in system?

 

oh they absolutely HAVE put harmful stuff in us eg thimerosol and aluminium.

 

There haven't been many studies (some surveys have been done) done that compare children who have been vaccinated with those that have had NO vaccines at all but there is one which a pediatrician did that looked at the patients that came through his surgery. he looked at what follow up appointments and health problems the children had and he found that the vaccinated children had far more health problems. Some of the common problems which they experienced which the non vaxxed children didn't experience were: asthma, allergies, ear infections and various autoimmune disorders

 

10 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

How do you know you don't ready have nano tech in you?

 

italian scientists found metal particulates in the vaccines prior to covid so its my personal belief that they have been putting nano tech in the jabs for years

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18 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

But I can't sit back and take somebody seriously when they say dumb stuff like it's experimental and could have anything in the ingredients.....

 

messenger RNA jabs ARE experimental

 

Experiments were carried out in the past on animals but the research was discontinued after the test animals died. The research was then resurrected by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation who pumped money into it

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I get the bit that you feel the need to protect yourself, like wearing a mask that tells you on the box it doesn't protect you from covid. But it was still put out you were protecting yourself by wearing one until we showed everyone a picture of the side of the box, that says they didn't protect anyone from anything. Which makes I am protecting myself totally illogical because you aren't.

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5 minutes ago, Sheepy said:

I get the bit that you feel the need to protect yourself, like wearing a mask that tells you on the box it doesn't protect you from covid. But it was still put out you were protecting yourself by wearing one until we showed everyone a picture of the side of the box, that says they didn't protect anyone from anything. Which makes I am protecting myself totally illogical because you aren't.

 

I was always told at college to never bother with anything less than an FFP3 mask when trying to protect against dust because nothing less would be effective and if you have any facial hair that will prevent the mask from being effective. When buying proper industrial masks we were advised to do a proper fitting test to make sure we had the right size mask to get a proper seal around our face but in this scamdemic people are walking around with all kinds of flimsy crap on their faces and virus particles are much smaller than dust particles so......its a joke

 

Its purely about the satanists asserting dominance over people

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By having the covid vaccination you are protecting yourself. My friend runs a group that is dedicated to helping others who have all sorts of issues after having covid. About 15k members in the group currently. 

 

Such as heart problems, lung issues, memory problems the list goes on as a direct result of suffering from coronavirus. 

 

This is the reality folks not fantasy it's happening.

 

I have been down all sorts of rabbit holes watched all sorts from

 

Bill Gates

5G

Graphene oxide 

Apparent ex Pfizer chiefs 

Global take over 

 

My conclusion majority of these videos are complete nonsense. 

 

As for vaccination deaths again in the grand scheme of things millions have been double jabbed......

 

I personally know about 250 people who have the jabs. 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

My friend runs a group that is dedicated to helping others who have all sorts of issues after having covid. About 15k members in the group currently. 

 

Such as heart problems, lung issues, memory problems the list goes on as a direct result of suffering from coronavirus.

 

How many of them have had various vaccines including the flu vaccine? Below is a clip of WHO scientists discussing the problems with the vaccines. I have quoted them and then asked my own follow up questions:

Scientists Question Safety of Vaccines (WHO Global Vaccine Safety Summit December 2019)

0.29 seconds ''without good science we can't have good communication''

If you don't have the 'science' then why are you rolling out vaccines on a massive scale?

 

0.58 seconds ''we really don't have good safety monitoring systems''

If you don't have good safety monitoring systems then how can you assess if the vaccines are safe or not?

 

1 minute 10 seconds ''we are not able to give clear cut answers about the deaths that have occurred with particular vaccines''

If your vaccines are killing people and you can't understand why then why are you using them?

 

1 minute 20 seconds ''there is some obfuscation at that level''

If you are about 'science' then why would you hide anything? Surely you should lay all the facts on the table so that science can be more accurate. By failing to do that you are anti-science

 

1.57 ''how do we build confidence in this?''

If you have identified that the ADJUVANTS eg aluminium are toxic to health then the question is not how you get people to maintain confidence in a toxic product the question is how you make your product non toxic or you remove it from the market altogether. Why would you look to build confidence in a product that you know is causing harm?

 

2 minutes 50 seconds ''[adjuvants] multiply the reactogenicity, in many instances, and therefore it seems to me that it is not unexpected if they multiply the incidence of adverse reactions that are associated with the antigen, but may not have been detected through lack of statistical power in the original studies''

If your studies lack the necessary data to identify the risks involved in your vaccine then how can you then make an accurate cost to benefit analysis? If they are causing adverse reactions and you don't fully understand why then why are you not pulling the products off the market and why did you use them in the first place?

 

3.20 you say you see local reactogenicity immediately after the vaccine is applied and therefore accept those as vaccine induced adverse reactions and yet sound dismissive of more long term effects which you describe as 'accusations'; that smacks of criminally negligent irresponsibility to me

 

5.07 ''better mechanistic understandings of how these things work''

if you don't understand the mechanisms of your own vaccines then why would you ever inject them into a live human being as you can't be sure what impact that will have on them? You are essentially using people as your guinea pigs

 

5.18 ''if you struggle with the length of follow up''

So you are admitting that you do not look at the long term impacts on the people you vaccinate

 

5.35 ''its also the subject population that you administer the adjuvant to...''

Yes that is why applying a one size fits all approach to medicine is deeply flawed and dangerous and criminally irresponsible

 

6.18 ''a child is being given different antigens from different companies, and these vaccines have different adjuvants and preservatives and so on....something crosses my mind...is there a possibility of these adjuvants, preservatives cross-reacting amongst themselves?''

Yes of course there is. There is also the possibility that vaccine ingredients could react synergistically with other environmental factors such as fluoride, glyphosate and even microwaves, so you have to ask yourself why this doesn't 'cross the mind' of the scientists who make the vaccines and the doctors who administer them? Are they retards or criminals?

 

6.36 ''has there ever been a study on the possibility of cross-reactions?''

 

from 6.48 Dr Chen then goes on to admit that they lack that data and want to give people barcodes which is an admission that upto now they haven't studied the possibility of cross-reactivity and also that even if they create barcodes and use them to look into that the people who are vaccinated during that time will still not have the protection of the knowledge of those studies and will be guinea pigs demonstrating that they are knowingly flying blind

 

7.40 Dr Chen welcomes the emergence of 'large data sets' which means large amounts of people who are acting as guinea pigs

 

8.47 ''in medical school you are lucky if you have a half day on vaccines''

If doctors are lucky to have a half day on vaccines then isn't it about time that we stopped referring to them as 'experts' on the subject of vaccines? I have had more than a half day on vaccines therefore i am more of an expert on vaccines than the GP's who are so eager to inject them into our children

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

but in this scamdemic people are walking around with all kinds of flimsy crap on their faces and virus particles are much smaller than dust particles so......its a joke

Unless you are going to put the whole population in Hazmat suits and never take them off there will always a thriving virus of one kind or another, it is purely logical. So, if you want to feel safe from viruses you need a bubble and a Hazmat suit, not a jab of RNA which could likely be programmed at any point to get a bit cranky and start sending the wrong messages. The World has completely lost the plot.

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38 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

I was always told at college to never bother with anything less than an FFP3 mask when trying to protect against dust because nothing less would be effective and if you have any facial hair that will prevent the mask from being effective. When buying proper industrial masks we were advised to do a proper fitting test to make sure we had the right size mask to get a proper seal around our face but in this scamdemic people are walking around with all kinds of flimsy crap on their faces and virus particles are much smaller than dust particles so......its a joke

 

Its purely about the satanists asserting dominance over people

The masks are not there for anything other than just of a daily reminder of covid pandemic. It's there to reinforce it into the mind to help keep the pretence up. Could you imagine being at a real contagion outbreak site and being told this mask will protect you

It's solely to help conditioning people

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16 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

As for vaccination deaths again in the grand scheme of things millions have been double jabbed......

 

I personally know about 250 people who have the jabs.

 

The UK Column are keeping a regularly updated record of the adverse reactions that are being reported to the official yellow card scheme managed by the government regulators

 

Its estimated that only between 1-10% of adverse reactions are actually reported to doctors and then reported to the yellow card scheme so a more accurate figure of deaths and injuries from the jabs could be gained by multiplying these figures by 10

 

https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports

COVID-19 Vaccine Analysis Overview

Report run date: 14/10/2021
Data lock date: 13/10/2021

Manufacturer Total reports Total reactions Total fatalities
Totals 375,493 1,236,485

1,715

AstraZeneca 234,882 833,735 1,101
Moderna 16,921 54,159 19
Pfizer 122,542 345,152 564
Unspecified 1,148 3,439 31
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3 minutes ago, Sheepy said:

if you want to feel safe from viruses you need a bubble and a Hazmat suit, not a jab of RNA which could likely be programmed at any point to get a bit cranky and start sending the wrong messages.

 

the mRNA is getting peoples cells to produce a spike protein which then travels around the body and enters various organs

 

Its the spike protein itself that will cause harm. Its a bioweapon

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3 minutes ago, Relativity said:

The masks are not there for anything other than just of a daily reminder of covid pandemic. It's there to reinforce it into the mind to help keep the pretence up.

 

agreed...it's pure psychology

 

3 minutes ago, Relativity said:

Could you imagine being at a real contagion outbreak site and being told this mask will protect you

 

if we were at a real contagion site there would have been people collapsing in the street BEFORE the jabs

 

now there are only people collapsing BECAUSE of the jabs

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The vaccine-which-isnt-a-vaccine is experimental, FFS. It's still officially in the "trial" stages until 2023.

 

Masks are a symbolic piece of mind-control/propaganda to prop up the BS narrative. No protection, and not necessary for anyone.

 

The jabs are causing people to develop unnatural heart and blood-related conditions, which are likely to cause fatalities.

 

Nobody is "dying of Covid". Covid doesn't fucking exist. It's a scam.

 

The world lost its mind. Maybe critical thinking has been hampered by years of smartphones, EMR and shit TV.

 

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32 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

By having the covid vaccination you are protecting yourself. My friend runs a group that is dedicated to helping others who have all sorts of issues after having covid. About 15k members in the group currently. 

 

Such as heart problems, lung issues, memory problems the list goes on as a direct result of suffering from coronavirus. 

 

This is the reality folks not fantasy it's happening.

 

I have been down all sorts of rabbit holes watched all sorts from

 

Bill Gates

5G

Graphene oxide 

Apparent ex Pfizer chiefs 

Global take over 

 

My conclusion majority of these videos are complete nonsense. 

 

As for vaccination deaths again in the grand scheme of things millions have been double jabbed......

 

I personally know about 250 people who have the jabs. 

 

 

 

Bill Gates - hanged out with a known peedoo. Not someone to defend really.

5G - would not want to live close to a tower. Aluminium blocks 4g, so perhaps buy some of those shutters they use in the Med - tried it with a signal strength meter on the mobile, knocked about 10db off

Graphene oxide - no real evidence for this 

Apparent ex Pfizer chiefs - umm, not convincing, like Malone

Global take over - the most likely on this list, at the very least a giant money making opportunity they couldn't pass up 

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5 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

The vaccine-which-isnt-a-vaccine is experimental, FFS. It's still officially in the "trial" stages until 2023.

 

true story!

 

the government gave it 'emergency approval' using regulation 174 so that the jabs didn't have to complete their human trials (because if they had they would have failed)

 

So everyone being jabbed now IS part of the experiment

Conditions of Authorisation for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech (Regulation 174)

Updated 28 October 2021

General

  • This temporary Authorisation under Regulation 174 permits the supply of identified COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 batches, based on the safety, quality and efficacy data submitted by Pfizer/BioNTech to MHRA in the period from 1 October to 2 December 2020;
  • This authorisation is not a marketing authorisation;
  • This authorisation applies to supply within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
  • As provided in Regulation 174A(2) of the Human Medicine Regulations the sale or supply of this vaccine will not be deemed authorised if the supply is for the purpose of any use other than the recommended or required use, or if a condition in this authorisation is breached;
  • The entity responsible for physically supplying the product in the United Kingdom is Pfizer Limited (incorporated in England and Wales under registered number 526209). Pfizer Limited and BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH (An der Goldgrube 12, 55131 Mainz, Germany) will be jointly and separately responsible for placing the product on the market in the United Kingdom for the purposes of The Human Medicines Regulations including Reg 345(3) (hereinafter “Pfizer/BioNTech”);
  • Pfizer/BioNTech are jointly and separately responsible, with the manufacturers of the product, for the conditions relating to the manufacture of the product and to product release to the market under the terms of this authorisation;
  • Pfizer/BioNTech is not only responsible for compliance with the conditions expressly applied to it in this authorisation but also, where the conditions apply legislation or guidance that confers responsibilities on marketing authorisation holders, for compliance with any responsibility however worded that applies to a marketing authorisation holder in the applied legislation or guidance;
  • Pfizer/BioNTech must promptly provide to MHRA any further data that is generated by them, or which otherwise come into their possession, which is relevant to the risk / benefit profile of the product;
  • Pfizer/BioNTech must respond in a timely manner to any requests for further supplementary data relating to product;
  • Any deviations from any of these conditions can only be made with the prior agreement of the MHRA;
  • MHRA may review and adjust these conditions for temporary supply in response to any developments which it considers material, including any subsequent market authorisations that might be issued by other medicines regulators;
  • This authorisation will be valid until expressly withdrawn by MHRA or upon issue of a full market authorisation by the MHRA.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/conditions-of-authorisation-for-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine

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1 minute ago, campanar said:

Graphene oxide - no real evidence for this 

Recent progress of graphene oxide as a potential vaccine ...

Our work describes the surface modification of graphene oxide and for the first time summarizes that functionalized graphene oxide serves as a vaccine carrier and shows significant adjuvant activity in activating cellular and humoral immunity. In the future, it is expected to be introduced into vaccine research to improve the efficacy of vaccines.

Functionalized graphene oxide serves as a novel vaccine ...

Benefiting from their unique physicochemical properties, graphene derivatives have attracted great attention in biomedicine. In this study, we carefully engineered graphene oxide (GO) as a vaccine adjuvant for immunotherapy using urease B (Ure B) as the model antigen. Ure B is a specific antigen for …
 
1 minute ago, campanar said:

Apparent ex Pfizer chiefs - umm, not convincing, like Malone

 

Coronavirus vaccine safety concerns

by Dr. Lee S Dryburgh

On December 1, 2020, Dr. Michael Yeadon (former Vice President Respiratory & Chief Scientific Advisor, Pfizer) and Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg (lung specialist and former head of the public health department) filed an application with the EMA, the European Medicine Agency responsible for EU-wide drug approval, for the immediate suspension of all SARS CoV 2 vaccine studies, in particular the BioNtech/Pfizer study on BNT162b (EudraCT number 2020-002641-42).

Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon demand that the studies – for the protection of the life and health of the volunteers – should not be continued until a study design is available that is suitable to address the significant safety concerns expressed by an increasing number of renowned scientists against the vaccine and the study design.

On the one hand, the petitioners demand that, due to the known lack of accuracy of the PCR test in a serious study, a so-called Sanger sequencing must be used. This is the only way to make reliable statements on the effectiveness of a vaccine against Covid-19. On the basis of the many different PCR tests of highly varying quality, neither the risk of disease nor a possible vaccine benefit can be determined with the necessary certainty, which is why testing the vaccine on humans is unethical per se.

Furthermore, they demand that it must be excluded, e.g. by means of animal experiments, that risks already known from previous studies, which partly originate from the nature of the corona viruses, can be realized.

The concerns are directed in particular to the following points:

  1. The formation of so-called “non-neutralizing antibodies” can lead to an exaggerated immune reaction, especially when the test person is confronted with the real, “wild” virus after vaccination. This so-called antibody-dependent amplification, ADE, has long been known from experiments with corona vaccines in cats, for example. In the course of these studies all cats that initially tolerated the vaccination well died after catching the wild virus.
  2. The vaccinations are expected to produce antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2. However, spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans. It must be absolutely ruled out that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 could trigger an immune reaction against syncytin-1, as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.
  3. The mRNA vaccines from BioNTech/Pfizer contain polyethylene glycol (PEG). 70% of people develop antibodies against this substance – this means that many people can develop allergic, potentially fatal reactions to the vaccination.
  4. The much too short duration of the study does not allow a realistic estimation of the late effects. As in the narcolepsy cases after the swine flu vaccination, millions of healthy people would be exposed to an unacceptable risk if an emergency approval were to be granted and the possibility of observing the late effects of the vaccination were to follow. Nevertheless, BioNTech/Pfizer apparently submitted an application for emergency approval on December 1, 2020.

DECEMBER 1, 2020

“There is no indication whether antibodies against spike proteins of SARS viruses would also act like anti-Syncytin-1 antibodies.

However, if this were to be the case this would then also prevent the formation of a placenta which would result in vaccinated women essentially becoming infertile.”

DR. MED. WOLFGANG WODARG & DR. MICHAEL YEADON

 

1 minute ago, campanar said:

Global take over - the most likely on this list, at the very least a giant money making opportunity they couldn't pass up 

 

Klaus schwab wrote a book about what the elites are doing. It's called 'the great reset'. Its not a conspiracy theory. Its a conspiracy fact:

 

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