ar55 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 It boils my blood how the masses now accept the jabs don’t stop transmission, simply because the BBC etc. report it. These are the same clowns who patronise us with drivel about ‘following the science’. There’s people who are at the top of the medical game who have been screeching for months about them not stopping transmission. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, ar55 said: It boils my blood how the masses now accept the jabs don’t stop transmission, I don't actually see why it should boil your blood, you did your best to point out how illogical it is, which makes you one of the good people, you couldn't do any more than that, it is not like anyone left with half a brain doesn't know the BBC is run rather sinisterly when it comes to social engineering. If they chose to believe the BBC over you, then so be it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar55 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sheepy said: I don't actually see why it should boil your blood, you did your best to point out how illogical it is, which makes you one of the good people, you couldn't do any more than that, it is not like anyone left with half a brain doesn't know the BBC is run rather sinisterly when it comes to social engineering. If they chose to believe the BBC over you, then so be it. You’re right. I guess what annoys me is that it hasn’t changed their stance on passports. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BossCrow Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) @DarianF Have you seen this mate? Devious bastards. Tricking parents into signing away right to make decision on whether their kids are jabbed or not. Apparently Sweden are doing the same thing. Edited October 29, 2021 by BossCrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 What about the flu vaccine that doesn't stop transmission either. The whole point of the covid jab is to minimise the effect and symptoms of you catch it. Same as a flu jab it's to "protect" yourself..... Some of the logic portrayed here is quite frankly very skewered it's verging on the brink or paranoia and delusional. I don't mean to be harsh when I say that. But I can't sit back and take somebody seriously when they say dumb stuff like it's experimental and could have anything in the ingredients..... What about the jabs you had at school folks? How do you know they haven't already put harmful substances in system? How do you know you don't ready have nano tech in you? You wouldn't even know..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campanar Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ally_uk said: What about the flu vaccine that doesn't stop transmission either. The whole point of the covid jab is to minimise the effect and symptoms of you catch it. Same as a flu jab it's to "protect" yourself..... Some of the logic portrayed here is quite frankly very skewered it's verging on the brink or paranoia and delusional. I don't mean to be harsh when I say that. But I can't sit back and take somebody seriously when they say dumb stuff like it's experimental and could have anything in the ingredients..... Because the vaccines were promoted as the way out of the pandemic. How's that going? Are we out yet, doesn't look like it after 11 months of jabbing. Because it is experimental. That's a fact you can't escape from. If you want the vaxx, go for it, it's your choice. Just don't complain if it doesn't work out like you'd hoped. Edited October 29, 2021 by campanar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, ally_uk said: The whole point of the covid jab is to minimise the effect and symptoms of you catch it. Same as a flu jab it's to "protect" yourself.. So which side effects can you point us towards with the flu jab? which by the way is a totally different kind of technology used in the jab? it is like trying to compare a coal fired power station with a nuclear one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, ally_uk said: What about the flu vaccine that doesn't stop transmission either. The whole point of the covid jab is to minimise the effect and symptoms of you catch it. Same as a flu jab it's to "protect" yourself..... Some of the logic portrayed here is quite frankly very skewered it's verging on the brink or paranoia and delusional. I don't mean to be harsh when I say that. But I can't sit back and take somebody seriously when they say dumb stuff like it's experimental and could have anything in the ingredients..... What about the jabs you had at school folks? How do you know they haven't already put harmful substances in system? How do you know you don't ready have nano tech in you? You wouldn't even know..... So crack on then, good luck to you. I hope you have your affairs in order. Peace be with you. Let us know the results, until then.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, ally_uk said: What about the flu vaccine that doesn't stop transmission either. The flu jab has been causing people a lot of problems through something called 'molecular mimicry' which is just one of those vague terms scientists create when they don't actually know what's going on like 'dark matter' or 'junk DNA' In fact the problems from the flu jabs that were aggressively pushed out onto the ageing populations of UK and italy etc may very well be the cause of many of the symptoms that were then labelled 'covid' 10 minutes ago, ally_uk said: The whole point of the covid jab is to minimise the effect and symptoms of you catch it. Same as a flu jab it's to "protect" yourself..... Well you go ahead and take it for yourself then and once you've had it why should you then mind if i don't have it because by your own understanding you should now be protected? You do yourself and let me take care of my own health 10 minutes ago, ally_uk said: What about the jabs you had at school folks? How do you know they haven't already put harmful substances in system? oh they absolutely HAVE put harmful stuff in us eg thimerosol and aluminium. There haven't been many studies (some surveys have been done) done that compare children who have been vaccinated with those that have had NO vaccines at all but there is one which a pediatrician did that looked at the patients that came through his surgery. he looked at what follow up appointments and health problems the children had and he found that the vaccinated children had far more health problems. Some of the common problems which they experienced which the non vaxxed children didn't experience were: asthma, allergies, ear infections and various autoimmune disorders 10 minutes ago, ally_uk said: How do you know you don't ready have nano tech in you? italian scientists found metal particulates in the vaccines prior to covid so its my personal belief that they have been putting nano tech in the jabs for years 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, ally_uk said: But I can't sit back and take somebody seriously when they say dumb stuff like it's experimental and could have anything in the ingredients..... messenger RNA jabs ARE experimental Experiments were carried out in the past on animals but the research was discontinued after the test animals died. The research was then resurrected by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation who pumped money into it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 I get the bit that you feel the need to protect yourself, like wearing a mask that tells you on the box it doesn't protect you from covid. But it was still put out you were protecting yourself by wearing one until we showed everyone a picture of the side of the box, that says they didn't protect anyone from anything. Which makes I am protecting myself totally illogical because you aren't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sheepy said: I get the bit that you feel the need to protect yourself, like wearing a mask that tells you on the box it doesn't protect you from covid. But it was still put out you were protecting yourself by wearing one until we showed everyone a picture of the side of the box, that says they didn't protect anyone from anything. Which makes I am protecting myself totally illogical because you aren't. I was always told at college to never bother with anything less than an FFP3 mask when trying to protect against dust because nothing less would be effective and if you have any facial hair that will prevent the mask from being effective. When buying proper industrial masks we were advised to do a proper fitting test to make sure we had the right size mask to get a proper seal around our face but in this scamdemic people are walking around with all kinds of flimsy crap on their faces and virus particles are much smaller than dust particles so......its a joke Its purely about the satanists asserting dominance over people 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 By having the covid vaccination you are protecting yourself. My friend runs a group that is dedicated to helping others who have all sorts of issues after having covid. About 15k members in the group currently. Such as heart problems, lung issues, memory problems the list goes on as a direct result of suffering from coronavirus. This is the reality folks not fantasy it's happening. I have been down all sorts of rabbit holes watched all sorts from Bill Gates 5G Graphene oxide Apparent ex Pfizer chiefs Global take over My conclusion majority of these videos are complete nonsense. As for vaccination deaths again in the grand scheme of things millions have been double jabbed...... I personally know about 250 people who have the jabs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 It doesn't stop you getting covid or passing it on, so using your own logic it won't stop the side effects of covid either or any side effects of being injected with RNA and that is by your own logic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ally_uk said: My friend runs a group that is dedicated to helping others who have all sorts of issues after having covid. About 15k members in the group currently. Such as heart problems, lung issues, memory problems the list goes on as a direct result of suffering from coronavirus. How many of them have had various vaccines including the flu vaccine? Below is a clip of WHO scientists discussing the problems with the vaccines. I have quoted them and then asked my own follow up questions: Scientists Question Safety of Vaccines (WHO Global Vaccine Safety Summit December 2019) 0.29 seconds ''without good science we can't have good communication'' If you don't have the 'science' then why are you rolling out vaccines on a massive scale? 0.58 seconds ''we really don't have good safety monitoring systems'' If you don't have good safety monitoring systems then how can you assess if the vaccines are safe or not? 1 minute 10 seconds ''we are not able to give clear cut answers about the deaths that have occurred with particular vaccines'' If your vaccines are killing people and you can't understand why then why are you using them? 1 minute 20 seconds ''there is some obfuscation at that level'' If you are about 'science' then why would you hide anything? Surely you should lay all the facts on the table so that science can be more accurate. By failing to do that you are anti-science 1.57 ''how do we build confidence in this?'' If you have identified that the ADJUVANTS eg aluminium are toxic to health then the question is not how you get people to maintain confidence in a toxic product the question is how you make your product non toxic or you remove it from the market altogether. Why would you look to build confidence in a product that you know is causing harm? 2 minutes 50 seconds ''[adjuvants] multiply the reactogenicity, in many instances, and therefore it seems to me that it is not unexpected if they multiply the incidence of adverse reactions that are associated with the antigen, but may not have been detected through lack of statistical power in the original studies'' If your studies lack the necessary data to identify the risks involved in your vaccine then how can you then make an accurate cost to benefit analysis? If they are causing adverse reactions and you don't fully understand why then why are you not pulling the products off the market and why did you use them in the first place? 3.20 you say you see local reactogenicity immediately after the vaccine is applied and therefore accept those as vaccine induced adverse reactions and yet sound dismissive of more long term effects which you describe as 'accusations'; that smacks of criminally negligent irresponsibility to me 5.07 ''better mechanistic understandings of how these things work'' if you don't understand the mechanisms of your own vaccines then why would you ever inject them into a live human being as you can't be sure what impact that will have on them? You are essentially using people as your guinea pigs 5.18 ''if you struggle with the length of follow up'' So you are admitting that you do not look at the long term impacts on the people you vaccinate 5.35 ''its also the subject population that you administer the adjuvant to...'' Yes that is why applying a one size fits all approach to medicine is deeply flawed and dangerous and criminally irresponsible 6.18 ''a child is being given different antigens from different companies, and these vaccines have different adjuvants and preservatives and so on....something crosses my mind...is there a possibility of these adjuvants, preservatives cross-reacting amongst themselves?'' Yes of course there is. There is also the possibility that vaccine ingredients could react synergistically with other environmental factors such as fluoride, glyphosate and even microwaves, so you have to ask yourself why this doesn't 'cross the mind' of the scientists who make the vaccines and the doctors who administer them? Are they retards or criminals? 6.36 ''has there ever been a study on the possibility of cross-reactions?'' from 6.48 Dr Chen then goes on to admit that they lack that data and want to give people barcodes which is an admission that upto now they haven't studied the possibility of cross-reactivity and also that even if they create barcodes and use them to look into that the people who are vaccinated during that time will still not have the protection of the knowledge of those studies and will be guinea pigs demonstrating that they are knowingly flying blind 7.40 Dr Chen welcomes the emergence of 'large data sets' which means large amounts of people who are acting as guinea pigs 8.47 ''in medical school you are lucky if you have a half day on vaccines'' If doctors are lucky to have a half day on vaccines then isn't it about time that we stopped referring to them as 'experts' on the subject of vaccines? I have had more than a half day on vaccines therefore i am more of an expert on vaccines than the GP's who are so eager to inject them into our children Edited October 29, 2021 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, Macnamara said: but in this scamdemic people are walking around with all kinds of flimsy crap on their faces and virus particles are much smaller than dust particles so......its a joke Unless you are going to put the whole population in Hazmat suits and never take them off there will always a thriving virus of one kind or another, it is purely logical. So, if you want to feel safe from viruses you need a bubble and a Hazmat suit, not a jab of RNA which could likely be programmed at any point to get a bit cranky and start sending the wrong messages. The World has completely lost the plot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relativity Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Macnamara said: I was always told at college to never bother with anything less than an FFP3 mask when trying to protect against dust because nothing less would be effective and if you have any facial hair that will prevent the mask from being effective. When buying proper industrial masks we were advised to do a proper fitting test to make sure we had the right size mask to get a proper seal around our face but in this scamdemic people are walking around with all kinds of flimsy crap on their faces and virus particles are much smaller than dust particles so......its a joke Its purely about the satanists asserting dominance over people The masks are not there for anything other than just of a daily reminder of covid pandemic. It's there to reinforce it into the mind to help keep the pretence up. Could you imagine being at a real contagion outbreak site and being told this mask will protect you It's solely to help conditioning people Edited October 29, 2021 by Relativity 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, ally_uk said: As for vaccination deaths again in the grand scheme of things millions have been double jabbed...... I personally know about 250 people who have the jabs. The UK Column are keeping a regularly updated record of the adverse reactions that are being reported to the official yellow card scheme managed by the government regulators Its estimated that only between 1-10% of adverse reactions are actually reported to doctors and then reported to the yellow card scheme so a more accurate figure of deaths and injuries from the jabs could be gained by multiplying these figures by 10 https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports COVID-19 Vaccine Analysis Overview Report run date: 14/10/2021 Data lock date: 13/10/2021 Manufacturer Total reports Total reactions Total fatalities Totals 375,493 1,236,485 1,715 AstraZeneca 234,882 833,735 1,101 Moderna 16,921 54,159 19 Pfizer 122,542 345,152 564 Unspecified 1,148 3,439 31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sheepy said: if you want to feel safe from viruses you need a bubble and a Hazmat suit, not a jab of RNA which could likely be programmed at any point to get a bit cranky and start sending the wrong messages. the mRNA is getting peoples cells to produce a spike protein which then travels around the body and enters various organs Its the spike protein itself that will cause harm. Its a bioweapon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Relativity said: The masks are not there for anything other than just of a daily reminder of covid pandemic. It's there to reinforce it into the mind to help keep the pretence up. agreed...it's pure psychology 3 minutes ago, Relativity said: Could you imagine being at a real contagion outbreak site and being told this mask will protect you if we were at a real contagion site there would have been people collapsing in the street BEFORE the jabs now there are only people collapsing BECAUSE of the jabs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athenry04 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Saved said: Just seen this: This is Whitby in Ontario Canada. The ad is by a kids charity, obviously got their noses in the trough of infant death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) So, ally I am sure some people are paranoid I am not feeling like making a judgement on who they most likely are. Or why. But alas a little real science surely couldn't bamboozle anyone. Edited October 29, 2021 by Sheepy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 The vaccine-which-isnt-a-vaccine is experimental, FFS. It's still officially in the "trial" stages until 2023. Masks are a symbolic piece of mind-control/propaganda to prop up the BS narrative. No protection, and not necessary for anyone. The jabs are causing people to develop unnatural heart and blood-related conditions, which are likely to cause fatalities. Nobody is "dying of Covid". Covid doesn't fucking exist. It's a scam. The world lost its mind. Maybe critical thinking has been hampered by years of smartphones, EMR and shit TV. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campanar Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 32 minutes ago, ally_uk said: By having the covid vaccination you are protecting yourself. My friend runs a group that is dedicated to helping others who have all sorts of issues after having covid. About 15k members in the group currently. Such as heart problems, lung issues, memory problems the list goes on as a direct result of suffering from coronavirus. This is the reality folks not fantasy it's happening. I have been down all sorts of rabbit holes watched all sorts from Bill Gates 5G Graphene oxide Apparent ex Pfizer chiefs Global take over My conclusion majority of these videos are complete nonsense. As for vaccination deaths again in the grand scheme of things millions have been double jabbed...... I personally know about 250 people who have the jabs. Bill Gates - hanged out with a known peedoo. Not someone to defend really. 5G - would not want to live close to a tower. Aluminium blocks 4g, so perhaps buy some of those shutters they use in the Med - tried it with a signal strength meter on the mobile, knocked about 10db off Graphene oxide - no real evidence for this Apparent ex Pfizer chiefs - umm, not convincing, like Malone Global take over - the most likely on this list, at the very least a giant money making opportunity they couldn't pass up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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