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5 minutes ago, zArk said:

They should be treated as adults who are thick and dragging us all into oblivion 

 

It is difficult.

I do not wish to 'turn' my back upon them ....... and I shall not, even though I know that they will turn against me!

 

Yesterday i was with someone I consider a friend.

We worked (with our hands) on a project for him.

Both he and his wife are double jabbed and know that I am not.

He is (by my consideration) a 'good' man. He works hard to provide for his wife and 3 kids all that he did not have .... and he has done well.

His 'life' is about his family.

 

His youngest child (10) came into the room and after she left I asked him ....

"Sorry mate but I have to ask, although you do not need to answer and I will accept that .... Are you going to have your kids jabbed?"

 

He said ....

"I am not like you .... I know you dislike it but I will do as most do! .... If most were to discard clothing and walk naked, then I would not wear clothes anymore!"

 

I said nothing more about it ....... He knows my thoughts over the last 18+ months .... but this is a good man who is so blind that it makes me very sad.

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4 hours ago, Longtermlurker said:

 

For now a simple no will do but don't you see that changing in the next 2-3 years?

 

I do personally.. mandatory vaccines won't be far away and if I can get a head start on an exemption then it was worth considering

 

However the other posters are right that I'm better of as I am. . (just not having it.. at least for now)

 

No harm in foresight IMHO

 

 

In your proposed scenario (mandatory "vaccinations"), I would imagine an exemption notice would hold as much value as Confederate money following the Civil War. 

 

I appreciate and sympathize with your concerns, as I imagine such changes will take place as soon as next year, rather than two or three years. Here in the States, I feel the barometer for this will be when people on Social Security, disability and various government financial supplements begin to be put in a position where they must get the government shots in order to still receive their benefits. Thus far, the US government has been relying on private businesses to do their bidding. We are just starting to see the effects of that as thousands are now walking away from their jobs/careers over government shot mandates. Folks who rely on their government funded financial aid won't be able to walk away from the issue. (And before anyone calls these folks lazy bums for relying on the government for financial support; for the many whom rely on it, that money came out of their paychecks over their years, involuntarily). 

 

Since I don't believe Covidmania will ever be going away, nor will we return to what we once thought of as normal, I'm not really sure there is much one can do other than stand your ground, fight and try like hell to avoid being jabbed. I imagine there will be several "Civil Wars" breaking out all across the globe, once such Draconian measure such as forced "vaccinations" are put in place. So, perhaps the best we can do is to put up a hell of a fight and not make it easy for them.

 

I continue to pray for folks like yourself (and me) throughout this nightmare. Like yourself, I have taken solace in this particular web site and the many folks here. 

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13 minutes ago, ink said:

 

It is difficult.

I do not wish to 'turn' my back upon them ....... and I shall not, even though I know that they will turn against me!

 

Yesterday i was with someone I consider a friend.

We worked (with our hands) on a project for him.

Both he and his wife are double jabbed and know that I am not.

He is (by my consideration) a 'good' man. He works hard to provide for his wife and 3 kids all that he did not have .... and he has done well.

His 'life' is about his family.

 

His youngest child (10) came into the room and after she left I asked him ....

"Sorry mate but I have to ask, although you do not need to answer and I will accept that .... Are you going to have your kids jabbed?"

 

He said ....

"I am not like you .... I know you dislike it but I will do as most do! .... If most were to discard clothing and walk naked, then I would not wear clothes anymore!"

 

I said nothing more about it ....... He knows my thoughts over the last 18+ months .... but this is a good man who is so blind that it makes me very sad.

 

I think I said on the forum before, the line in the sand for me was if parents vaccinate their children. Most of my friends have young grandchildren and to date they haven't mentioned the vaccines and I don't want to broach the subject in case they are enthusiatic about jabbing them. I am pro choice, but children should be left alone until adulthood imo as the dangers of vaccination outway any danger of Covid to them

 

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4 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

I think I said on the forum before, the line in the sand for me was if parents vaccinate their children. Most of my friends have young grandchildren and to date they haven't mentioned the vaccines and I don't want to broach the subject in case they are enthusiatic about jabbing them. I am pro choice, but children should be left alone until adulthood imo as the dangers of vaccination outway any danger of Covid to them

 

I have had the discussion with my sisters who both have kids.

One sister is double jabbed and the other will not be jabbed.

Both consider jabbing kids to be wrong.

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5 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Saved said:

Their whole foundation is a lie and everything they've built on top is at the very least tainted with lies. I cannot imagine they would therefore suddenly tell the truth about the number of people jabbed.

 

By their standards, even doubling the true amount of numbers jabbed would be a mere white lie.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if only 50% have been jabbed. If I took a straw poll of people I know it would be nearer 80% but then the people I know well are comfortable, successful, highly compliant upper middle class types that haven't the slightest clue about the world.

 

There's a naivety about them that believes governments are generally good entities that make errors of judgement now and again.

 

When I talk to taxi drivers and hairy arsed working class people like me, it's nearer 80% that would NEVER go near a jab. 

 

When I talk to the homeless and those out of work struggling on benefits, not only have I have yet to find one person who has been jabbed but they are dead set against it. I guess the lack of comfort in their lives means they are less easy to blackmail over the loss of luxuries like jobs and holidays. 

 

 

is 80% the official vaccination number in the uk? I am surprised it is not higher. Just about everyone i know, and people i work with have all took the jabs. Many of them who previously said they would never take it. All working class folk.

 

Those on here who believe it's lower than 50% must be unemployed and spending too much time on social media in their echo chambers. 

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1 hour ago, Saved said:

Once they do that, you are effectively banned for life (on that account). They hoard 'crimes' and hit you with one in their vault from years ago, months ago etc.

 

All done by algorithms. It's easy to win an appeal (with a human) but then the algorithm hits you again and again and again. They do the same on YouTube.

Think she has several accounts. She takes the piss out of pretty much anything. 

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I think 80% vaccinated is about right, I still know a good few not vaccinated, but high majority have received it. 

 

I am dreading the time it becomes mandatory for all workers. I will be in a problematic situation especially when you have mortgage and bills to pay. How long can must people survive without income. 

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58 minutes ago, ink said:

 

I said nothing more about it ....... He knows my thoughts over the last 18+ months .... but this is a good man who is so blind that it makes me very sad.

My mates of 40+ years told me to wear the mask and be part of it.

Family members tell me mandatory jab for NHS is vital

Kids jabbed......they'll all go for it because .... sad as it is. .

 

They perceive the gov/church as their boss. 

 

They don't even recognise their own body autonomy, they know others have body autonomy but don't consider their own.

They are decentred and lost. 

 

And I still can't work out why we think differently. 

 

N.b gawd help them when the fake alien show is begun ..... Imagine trying to explain the hoax to them 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Saved said:

Once they do that, you are effectively banned for life (on that account). They hoard 'crimes' and hit you with one in their vault from years ago, months ago etc.

 

All done by algorithms. It's easy to win an appeal (with a human) but then the algorithm hits you again and again and again. They do the same on YouTube.

I've saved all my photos with my better half. Apart from that, I want Facebook to crumble

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12 minutes ago, zArk said:

And I still can't work out why we think differently. 

 

N.b gawd help them when the fake alien show is begun ..... Imagine trying to explain the hoax to them 

 

You know .... I consider that it would be simpler to explain the bolded, than to explain the former.

 

If they are told that aliens have began to invade then I would ask them ....

 

"The first act in war is to disrupt or corrupt your opponents communication .... why is your mobile and television still working? If these supposed beings have come from bazillions of miles away to attack us .... why didn't they EMP the whole planet and stand back while we killed each other for food and energy and then just mop up the remaining humans? Why bother with the dramatics? Surely they have the technology .... they have travelled the gazillions of miles to get here? What to .... wage a near conventional war with a primitive, non system travelling species?"

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17 minutes ago, Shake said:

Why do I have to listen to that idiot in the mornings

 

I must admit that I didn't even know who it was or what they did .... until I looked at the wiki link given by GR .... then I gave even less of a fuk than I did before :)

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3 minutes ago, ink said:

 

I must admit that I didn't even know who it was or what they did .... until I looked at the wiki link given by GR .... then I gave even less of a fuk than I did before :)

Out of likes. These idiots would not give the time or day for ordinary folk. Lorraine Kelly used to be nice

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For those wondering about the percentage of vaxxed in the UK...

 

From MHRA (1), although the BBC will probably inflate these figures for propaganda purposes and the MHRA figures are perhaps also questionable...

 

Vaxxed-Percentage-UK.png

 

UK population (2) is 68,354,724

 

Therefore: 

 

Percentage of UK population who've received one dose is 77.11%

 

Percentage of UK population who've received two doses is 66.22%

 

(1) https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

 

(2) https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/uk-population/#:~:text=The current population of the,year according to UN data.

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On 10/25/2021 at 6:46 PM, Saved said:

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It's strange that Matt Hancock has just gone to Croatia, for another romantic getaway, when the Croation president has stated that they have vaccinated 50% of the population (below the EU average) and that is enough.  Matt Hancock could die of COVID as his vaccine has a big risk of not working as half the population are not vaccinated! 

 

https://citizenfreepress.com/column-1/president-of-croatia-we-will-not-be-vaccinated-anymore/

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10125533/Matt-Hancock-spotted-night-Gina-Coladangelo-Croatia-weeks-break-Swiss-Alps.html

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Shake said:

I've saved all my photos with my better half. Apart from that, I want Facebook to crumble

It is the last shared place of communication I have with many (mostly family and ex fellowship). I expect I'll be banned before any of them ever get the message, but I'll continue regardless.

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1 minute ago, Saved said:

It is the last shared place of communication I have with many (mostly family and ex fellowship). I expect I'll be banned before any of them ever get the message, but I'll continue regardless.

I mentioned things from here and probably some soyboy (or ai) got offended for posting truth about this Satan juice.

 

I'll be banned but I've saved all my photos

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I don't trust Charlie Veitch especially given his 180 on 9/11, but he recently posted this audio of a school teacher in Manchester trying to convince his class to get jabbed. He claims it will prevent them getting the 'delta version'. lol

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, KingKitty said:

In your proposed scenario (mandatory "vaccinations"), I would imagine an exemption notice would hold as much value as Confederate money following the Civil War. 

 

I appreciate and sympathize with your concerns, as I imagine such changes will take place as soon as next year, rather than two or three years. Here in the States, I feel the barometer for this will be when people on Social Security, disability and various government financial supplements begin to be put in a position where they must get the government shots in order to still receive their benefits. Thus far, the US government has been relying on private businesses to do their bidding. We are just starting to see the effects of that as thousands are now walking away from their jobs/careers over government shot mandates. Folks who rely on their government funded financial aid won't be able to walk away from the issue. (And before anyone calls these folks lazy bums for relying on the government for financial support; for the many whom rely on it, that money came out of their paychecks over their years, involuntarily). 

 

Since I don't believe Covidmania will ever be going away, nor will we return to what we once thought of as normal, I'm not really sure there is much one can do other than stand your ground, fight and try like hell to avoid being jabbed. I imagine there will be several "Civil Wars" breaking out all across the globe, once such Draconian measure such as forced "vaccinations" are put in place. So, perhaps the best we can do is to put up a hell of a fight and not make it easy for them.

 

I continue to pray for folks like yourself (and me) throughout this nightmare. Like yourself, I have taken solace in this particular web site and the many folks here. 

Well said indeed my friend

On that case I'm gonna hit the testosterone and the weight bench and continue to embellish my inner fighting spirit lol

 

 

 

 

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