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3 minutes ago, zarkov said:

Lost for words at the behaviour of "adults

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FACE MASK TIED AROUND DOWN SYNDROME CHILD WITH NYLON ROPE BY TEACHERS (25TH OCT)

https://www.bitchute.com/video/lSXYEh5Gq5c7/

 

wow that is wrong. I heard another story that teachers used duct tape on children's faces to keep them from pulling their masks down. 

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4 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

I don't think there are any anti-vax protesters groups "teaming up" there. Who is Kyrie Irving? 

 

I suspect these people are protesting on their own accord. 


Here’s some better videos of the protesters. 
 

kyrie Irving is a basketball player who’s not allowed to play because he refuses to take the fake

 

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1 hour ago, ally_uk said:

He does have a valid point why the hostility when somebody challenges the view point you have..... 

 

What is the basis for the theories? 

 

A couple of videos on brand new tube,  Some idiotic pretend doctor monopolising the audience with silly nonsensical theories...... 

 

I have noticed it with all you conspiracy dudes you immediately become butthurt when challenged....

 

Millions have had the jab..... are they keeling over? 

 

If you were that worried about it you would get organised and assemble not sitting on a Internet forum......

 

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I'll ask you again, since you ignored it before. What is your opinion of Bill Gates?

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3 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

Although I only joined recently ( I was a member of the old forum but not very active) I have been mostly reading the Icke forum for many years. They come across as a 'journo' to me. I can just see it now "i spent 18 looking into the 'other side' of things and found nothing but crazy people who call the vaccines satan juice. I decided looking at all the evidence to take the jabs as I could clearly see the science was right'. Certainly they do not appear to be a free thinker. 

You might well have hit the target. 

 

Also, some of the crazier stuff (whatever that might be) and ALL the derailments over silliness and every heated disagreement over minor doctrines that really aren't important will form the basis of what would be a hit piece.

 

They destroy context. I've been a part of protest groups and saw a two hour interview (filmed by BBC journos) that would have left the viewer without doubt that a particular group I was filming for a documentary had legitimacy and righteousness on their side. Because the BBC would not be allowed access unless I filmed them filming the group, they did not show one second of that interview - because they couldn't cut it or show any words out of context. I had the entire interview in my can and they knew it.

 

What they did show was a scuffle in the car park of a meeting place - started by one of the BBC dick heads deliberately filming somebody who said they wanted privacy. That was framed as:

 

"Some of the group tried to fight us"

 

Likewise, hundreds of posts here could be partly quoted in a way that would get the forum banned from the internet. Banter would be framed as violent intent:

 

"One particularly angry member, known as Ziggy, remarked regularly how he longed to scissor kick Matt Hancock in the throat"

 

"Another member, Jack, left us feeling queasy with his use of words. The picture he painted of Jacinda Adern performing fellatio on a spiritual entity's dark coloured member had us taking the day off"

 

Personally, I thought many members were gentle and helpful towards Ally in the beginning. One or two were hostile but that wasn't allowed to stand for long.

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3 hours ago, ally_uk said:

He does have a valid point why the hostility when somebody challenges the view point you have..... 

 

What is the basis for the theories? 

 

A couple of videos on brand new tube,  Some idiotic pretend doctor monopolising the audience with silly nonsensical theories...... 

 

I have noticed it with all you conspiracy dudes you immediately become butthurt when challenged....

 

Millions have had the jab..... are they keeling over? 

 

If you were that worried about it you would get organised and assemble not sitting on a Internet forum......

 

🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

No hostility here, id like to here your point of veiw along with some of your sources to back up your what your saying.

 

This forum has alot of opinions which hold no water. Perhaps like this shpeel.

But its also a fantastic archive of links science papers, data , Crossrefrence,  msm articles , wacky articles, a spectrum of podcast links. Its a good timeline of events. Its not one sided. There is alot of mainstream media links posted here. Both sides of the argument is presented via links. Not necessarily by the opinions of the posters.

 

So i welcome your input on this page, Provided you back up what your saying and stop the unproductive taunting. Some Sincerity.

 

This is a confusing and hard time psycologicaly for either  "side" . Im personally finding it challeneging. 

My pre covid vison of my future is shatterd.

Ive always found it hard to trust the goverment. Always and still scandal after scandal. Why should in turn trust the scientists they instate. Where do we start with the medias bias, the onesided censorship, the closure of polarized conversation.

 

We are one no matter what. End of. We need to start speaking to one another with respect. Otherwise is just going to be unending misery, and we will just get good and better at hating each other until, god knows.

When did vaccination status ever divide us? 

Sucessful and failed Vaccines have been around for along time. Never divided us. Never been an issue for people to not have flu vaccine. People who didnt have to flu vaccine werent seen as selfish and a danger to others and portrayed as selfish heathens who dont care about others.

 

Its a shame we didnt all just not comply and flex public power and somehow topple the hierarchy.

But we didnt. Lets get over it.

we need to start understanding one another what ever choice they made.

Calling people cunts and this and that. Its not good communication. Its futile. And no one will listens to a hot head, never mind takes on board what they saying. I know this all too well...

 

 

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2 hours ago, Nathan Oakley said:

 

The guy who invented mRNA tech says it shouldnt be used as a Covid vaccine! Isnt that damning enough for you!

 

Robert Malone—a medical doctor and an infectious-disease researcher—recently suggested that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines might actually make COVID-19 infections worse. He chuckled as he imagined Anthony Fauci announcing that the vaccination campaign was all a big mistake (“Oh darn, I was wrong!”) and would need to be abandoned. When he floated that nightmare scenario during a recent podcast interview with Steve Bannon, both men seemed almost delighted at the prospect of public-health officials and pharmaceutical companies getting their comeuppance. “This is a catastrophe,” Bannon declared, beaming at his guest. “You’re hearing it from an individual who invented the mRNA [vaccine] and has dedicated his life to vaccines. He’s the opposite of an anti-vaxxer.”

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/

That's exactly what happened in the animal trials. They all succumbed to the wild virus that they were vaccinated for.

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@ally_uk I thought this might help you make an informed choice. If you believe in the virus of course.

 

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-covid-vaccines-will-keep-you/comments

 

Don’t take it from me, I don’t even get to tweet anymore.

Take it from a little place I call the British government. Which admitted today, in its newest vaccine surveillance report, that:

“N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” (Page 23)

 

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What’s this mean? Several things, all bad. We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).

What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.

This means vaccinated people will be far more vulnerable to mutations in the spike protein EVEN AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN INFECTED AND RECOVERED ONCE (or more than once, probably).

It also means the virus is likely to select for mutations that go in exactly that direction, because those will essentially give it an enormous vulnerable population to infect. And it probably is still more evidence the vaccines may interfere with the development of robust long-term immunity post-infection.

Aside from that, everything is fine.

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2 minutes ago, Diesel said:

@ally_uk I thought this might help you make an informed choice. If you believe in the virus of course.

 

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-covid-vaccines-will-keep-you/comments

 

Don’t take it from me, I don’t even get to tweet anymore.

Take it from a little place I call the British government. Which admitted today, in its newest vaccine surveillance report, that:

“N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” (Page 23)

 

https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-43

What’s this mean? Several things, all bad. We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).

What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.

This means vaccinated people will be far more vulnerable to mutations in the spike protein EVEN AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN INFECTED AND RECOVERED ONCE (or more than once, probably).

It also means the virus is likely to select for mutations that go in exactly that direction, because those will essentially give it an enormous vulnerable population to infect. And it probably is still more evidence the vaccines may interfere with the development of robust long-term immunity post-infection.

Aside from that, everything is fine.

If this is a real goverment report then its what i thought all along. Natural protection is always the best.

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2 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

If this is a real goverment report then its what i thought all along. Natural protection is always the best.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf

 

pg 23 ) "recent observations from UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) surveillance data that N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination"

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The vaccinated dropping off this coil can be camouflaged.

When people die it is usually behind closed doors.

Stats do the rest!

 

There may be more to not wanting the unvaccinated in hospitals.... (speculative)

 

TRUST AUTHORITY !

 

[Authority - the immoral concept that fraudulently legitimises coercion.

Not to be confused with the same phrase used to confer expertise!]

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Moon Monkey said:

That's exactly what happened in the animal trials. They all succumbed to the wild virus that they were vaccinated for.

i wonder what the additional toxin was in the jab for the animals?

 

squalene? graphene oxide? mercury/aluminium mix? some other necro toxin?

 

i think there is alot more behind this story of the trials.

 

In fact if the 'wild virus' somehow infected the animals where is the golden proof of infection and contagion?????

 

i suggest that the animals were deliberately massacred using  a toxin within the jab and this toxin was hidden from the study writeup. The wild virus was wild speculation as to why the animals had a complete body collapse.

 

i dont wanna sound like 'double conspiracy smoke-mirrors' guy but its a story that has many BIG QUESTIONS attached to it

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8 minutes ago, zArk said:

i wonder what the additional toxin was in the jab for the animals?

 

squalene? graphene oxide? mercury/aluminium mix? some other necro toxin?

 

i think there is alot more behind this story of the trials.

 

In fact if the 'wild virus' somehow infected the animals where is the golden proof of infection and contagion?????

 

i suggest that the animals were deliberately massacred using  a toxin within the jab and this toxin was hidden from the study writeup. The wild virus was wild speculation as to why the animals had a complete body collapse.

 

i dont wanna sound like 'double conspiracy smoke-mirrors' guy but its a story that has many BIG QUESTIONS attached to it

 

Interesting you mention Squalene, I was watching this the other day from 2009...

 

"In this clip Jesse Ventura talks to Dr. Laibow about the elite's plan to create a #Pandemic through innoculation. According to the doctor, they will use a nasal vaccination to infect the first carriers. These carriers will then infect the rest of the population.

The government's response will be to create a vaccine, but there will not be enough to go around. The government will add #Squalene to vaccine supplies, which will ultimately lead to sterilization AND depopulation. Those who survive will be sterile...according to the good doctor."

 

https://otwtube.com/video/1279/pandemic-predicted-in-2009-jesse-ventura-s-conspiracy-theory

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Apologies if this has already been posted, but here we have another Platinum Standard Cunt 'teaching' a class:

 

 

Frankly, if that doesn't earn at least two scissor-kicks to the jappers, then the art of scissor-kicking is in decline.

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4 hours ago, ally_uk said:

He does have a valid point why the hostility when somebody challenges the view point you have..... 

 

What is the basis for the theories? 

 

A couple of videos on brand new tube,  Some idiotic pretend doctor monopolising the audience with silly nonsensical theories...... 

 

I have noticed it with all you conspiracy dudes you immediately become butthurt when challenged....

 

Millions have had the jab..... are they keeling over? 

 

If you were that worried about it you would get organised and assemble not sitting on a Internet forum......

 

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Millions have had the jab and about 40 000 have keeled over dead and over 3 000 000 have had bad side effects. As there is no longterm data as to what will happen in the future, I would stop laughing if I were you, you should be worried.

I also agree that this is an anti mRNA thread and personally I come here for refuge from all the pro jab propaganda. If you want a medal and a pat on the back, try joining a mainstream forum.

It's like trying to get away from kids in a pub after 10 p.m and someone brings in a toddler running around screaming. Where can we get away from you pro russian roulette people?

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1 hour ago, Soandso said:

 

No hostility here, id like to here your point of veiw along with some of your sources to back up your what your saying.

 

This forum has alot of opinions which hold no water. Perhaps like this shpeel.

But its also a fantastic archive of links science papers, data , Crossrefrence,  msm articles , wacky articles, a spectrum of podcast links. Its a good timeline of events. Its not one sided. There is alot of mainstream media links posted here. Both sides of the argument is presented via links. Not necessarily by the opinions of the posters.

 

So i welcome your input on this page, Provided you back up what your saying and stop the unproductive taunting. Some Sincerity.

 

This is a confusing and hard time psycologicaly for either  "side" . Im personally finding it challeneging. 

My pre covid vison of my future is shatterd.

Ive always found it hard to trust the goverment. Always and still scandal after scandal. Why should in turn trust the scientists they instate. Where do we start with the medias bias, the onesided censorship, the closure of polarized conversation.

 

We are one no matter what. End of. We need to start speaking to one another with respect. Otherwise is just going to be unending misery, and we will just get good and better at hating each other until, god knows.

When did vaccination status ever divide us? 

Sucessful and failed Vaccines have been around for along time. Never divided us. Never been an issue for people to not have flu vaccine. People who didnt have to flu vaccine werent seen as selfish and a danger to others and portrayed as selfish heathens who dont care about others.

 

Its a shame we didnt all just not comply and flex public power and somehow topple the hierarchy.

But we didnt. Lets get over it.

we need to start understanding one another what ever choice they made.

Calling people cunts and this and that. Its not good communication. Its futile. And no one will listens to a hot head, never mind takes on board what they saying. I know this all too well...

 

 

 

Personally, I'm inclined to a more down-to-earth view of things, in that I think it's classic mass hysteria.  But even if the theories about it all are true, the outcome is the same.

 

We're fucked.

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