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21 minutes ago, Yoyo said:

Thread has ween well and truly derailed. 🤔

I watch and learn, it's a pity though that us supposed awake ones still get snagged in the spiders web, did I just include mysef? maybe lol I don't dare try and tell anyone what to do but if you like, listen to this : Timestamped :

 

 

 

 

Squabbles here comes the moderators yo!

 

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Just to update re Max Igan; he certainly did go off to Jeff Berwicks hacienda.

 

Im wondering how he left the country without being jabbed; but Berwick is always going on about his private planes etc so maybe Igan was ‘smuggled’ out.

 

Imo he’s a rat leaving a sinking ship; he was never in any ‘danger’ of anything.

 

All those Aussie battlers protesting - and not protesting, just minding their own business  - being beaten and abused; those who dont have rich mates to help them get away, putting themselves in the front line, while Igan just banged away in front of a camera in his safe space exhorting said battlers to do this and that.

 

The comments under the video surprised me as most of the ones I read were in support of him leaving; but there you go, you put someone on a pedestal, they can do no wrong.

 

I know many here will also support him for this, and for their own reasons and that’s all good too; it’s a funny old life.

 

Sorry to derail the thread, not.

 

https://odysee.com/@thecrowhouse:2/Law-No-Longer-Exists-So-Its-Time-We-Create-Our-Own:e

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4 hours ago, Ween Dwijler said:

This study is being "promoted" as being proof that Ivermectin is not working. The devil, as always, is in the details. The study was using patients that were already positive for Covid and hospitalized. It is well known, that the effectiveness of IVM as treatment for Covid is much lower than as prophylaxis. The earlier posted meta analysis show that as a prophylaxis IVM has an effectiveness of 85-86%. This is only 10% less than that of the vaccines. But, the risks with IVM are negligible, while the VAERS database in the US shows over 6,000 deaths already from the vaccines. Not even mentioning the over 700K severe side effects reported in the same VAERS database.

 

In other words: how to manipulate science to make it look the way you want it.

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00239-X/fulltext

 

Good points from Off Guardian here.

So, Should we endorse the ivermectin treatment?

Well, first of all, OffGuardian is not here to recommend any medical treatment. We are not in the business of giving out medical advice, that is not the purpose of the site. We simply report facts that get neglected by the mainstream.

 

It’s certainly true that ivermectin has been around for a long time, and has always been considered safe and effective for a wide variety of conditions and is approved for off-label use, and even some indications it could an effective anti-viral treatment – the anti-ivermectin fear-porn in the media is highly misleading in that regard.Therefore doctors should be free to prescribe the treatment if they see fit, and patients should be free to take it.

 

However, there is a distinct danger in spreading the “ivermectin cures covid” story, because it concedes ground to the official narrative that we shouldn’t be conceding. Just as with the “vaccines make variants more dangerous” story, the “ivermectin treats covid” angle reinforces the idea that there is a scary new virus out there that requires some kind of special treatment.

 

If you take that position, you put yourself in a situation where all the mainstream has to do is proclaim the existence of a new “ivermectin resistant variant”, and suddenly you have been swallowed up completely by the official story."

 

https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/29/coronavirus-fact-check-12-ivermectin/#update

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Ah those innocent days when the "vaccine" (original version) was our "passport to freedom" and "our way out of pandemic".

 

Wonder what happened to all that? Maybe filed away next to "flatten the curve" and "3 weeks to save the NHS".

 

It's important to repeat all this because the same trick is being played on the public (latest upgrade: BOOSTERS!) yet the stakes are getting much much higher. Children are dropping dead in schools.

 

This should be over. The whole scam ought now to be revealed to anyone with a brain for what it is.

 

They've worn their masks, they've isolated. They've lost their shops, businesses, cafes, resturants. They've lost the freedom to travel. They've been refused entry to see their next of kin in care homes. Even forced to stay away from funerals. They've had their jabs. Jab 1, Jab 2. They've allowed their children to have the jab. Now the kids are dying. They've had the jab when they're pregnant. Now those unborn babies are terminating, or dying at birth (or soon after).

 

WHAT THE FUCK WILL IT TAKE? 

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3 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Ah those innocent days when the "vaccine" (original version) was our "passport to freedom" and "our way out of pandemic".

 

Wonder what happened to all that? Maybe filed away next to "flatten the curve" and "3 weeks to save the NHS".

 

It's important to repeat all this because the same trick is being played on the public (latest upgrade: BOOSTERS!) yet the stakes are getting much much higher. Children are dropping dead in schools.

 

This should be over. The whole scam ought now to be revealed to anyone with a brain for what it is.

 

They've worn their masks, they've isolated. They've lost their shops, businesses, cafes, resturants. They've lost the freedom to travel. They've been refused entry to see their next of kin in care homes. Even forced to stay away from funerals. They've had their jabs. Jab 1, Jab 2. They've allowed their children to have the jab. Now the kids are dying. They've had the jab when they're pregnant. Now those unborn babies are terminating, or dying at birth (or soon after).

 

WHAT THE FUCK WILL IT TAKE? 

It’s getting to a point where it’s beyond parody.

 

I had a ‘debate’ with a guy in work today. He insisted the jabs stop transmission, but is also in favour of another lockdown due to the soaring transmission rates.

 

You couldn’t make it up.

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2 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Good question my friend.

Wish I had an answer.

The majority of my fellow Brits genuinely maake me puke.

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I'm not sure which stage I am at now when I see all these idiots still wearing the masks. At least 95% uptake round here. Even now. Despair? Outrage? Disgust? Horror? I have to just tell myself, fuck it they are gone.

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"We have determined that an analysis of spontaneous postmarketing adverse events reported under section 505(k)(1) of the FDCA will not be sufficient to assess known serious risks of myocarditis and pericarditis and identify an unexpected serious risk of subclinical myocarditis."

 

https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download

 

Search 'our stn: bl 125742/0' on https://www.fda.gov/

 

 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, blowonthepie said:

 

Just to update re Max Igan; he certainly did go off to Jeff Berwicks hacienda.

 

Im wondering how he left the country without being jabbed; but Berwick is always going on about his private planes etc so maybe Igan was ‘smuggled’ out.

 

Imo he’s a rat leaving a sinking ship; he was never in any ‘danger’ of anything.

 

All those Aussie battlers protesting - and not protesting, just minding their own business  - being beaten and abused; those who dont have rich mates to help them get away, putting themselves in the front line, while Igan just banged away in front of a camera in his safe space exhorting said battlers to do this and that.

 

The comments under the video surprised me as most of the ones I read were in support of him leaving; but there you go, you put someone on a pedestal, they can do no wrong.

 

I know many here will also support him for this, and for their own reasons and that’s all good too; it’s a funny old life.

 

Sorry to derail the thread, not.

 

https://odysee.com/@thecrowhouse:2/Law-No-Longer-Exists-So-Its-Time-We-Create-Our-Own:e

I had a moment where I wondered why I was mocking Max here but you explained it succinctly. I'll watch the video now. I'm just a guy that cringes at 50% of my posts due to excessive alcohol intake certainly nobody who expects others to follow, but if Max really had a backbone he'd be going nowhere am I wrong? I won't be going anywhere, and what will come will come.

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26 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

I'm not sure which stage I am at now when I see all these idiots still wearing the masks. At least 95% uptake round here. Even now. Despair? Outrage? Disgust? Horror? I have to just tell myself, fuck it they are gone.

As for being part of the solution they certainly are gone, feck knows what they will have them panic buying next.

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38 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Ah those innocent days when the "vaccine" (original version) was our "passport to freedom" and "our way out of pandemic".

 

Wonder what happened to all that? Maybe filed away next to "flatten the curve" and "3 weeks to save the NHS".

 

It's important to repeat all this because the same trick is being played on the public (latest upgrade: BOOSTERS!) yet the stakes are getting much much higher. Children are dropping dead in schools.

 

This should be over. The whole scam ought now to be revealed to anyone with a brain for what it is.

 

They've worn their masks, they've isolated. They've lost their shops, businesses, cafes, resturants. They've lost the freedom to travel. They've been refused entry to see their next of kin in care homes. Even forced to stay away from funerals. They've had their jabs. Jab 1, Jab 2. They've allowed their children to have the jab. Now the kids are dying. They've had the jab when they're pregnant. Now those unborn babies are terminating, or dying at birth (or soon after).

 

WHAT THE FUCK WILL IT TAKE? 

You can tell I am no wordsworth by my badly written posts. I thought i would try and write bits and pieces down to document my thoughts and feelings. People that can genuinely write should not be short of material. It is safe to say I am lost for words and I am tired of ranting. 

 

It feels like we have let down the children and the elderly. 

 

Its sad when people i know would rather trust whay these scum tell them. The elderly in my family have fallen for this hook line and sinker. And its now at the point where i just bite my tongue and play along to their delusions. 

 

I deal with the british public everyday in my work. And the stuff i have heard people say you would not believe how pychotic it is.

 

It is just a nightmare.

 

I have let go. Its probably wrong. But i just dont have the energy to be angry. In my family situation i could have really done with my parents stepping up and putting an arm around my grandparents on both sides because they aint gonna listen to me. But no both of my parents have taken the jab. Its their choice but its retarded as far as i am concerned. And cowardly.

 

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And i have been lost for words since this shit show started last year. Like a depersonalised solider (not comparing myself to a solider) with a thousand yard stare. Cannot believe what i am seeing for almost 2 years straight. And how quickly the mental illness spread like a cancer.

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1 minute ago, Fluke said:

You can tell I am no wordsworth by my badly written posts. I thought i would try and write bits and pieces down to document my thoughts and feelings. People that can genuinely write should not be short of material. It is safe to say I am lost for words and I am tired of ranting. 

 

It feels like we have let down the children and the elderly. 

 

Its sad when people i know would rather trust whay these scum tell them. The elderly in my family have fallen for this hook line and sinker. And its now at the point where i just bite my tongue and play along to their delusions. 

 

I deal with the british public everyday in my work. And the stuff i have heard people say you would not believe how pychotic it is.

 

It is just a nightmare.

 

I have let go. Its probably wrong. But i just dont have the energy to be angry. In my family situation i could have really done with my parents stepping up and putting an arm around my grandparents on both sides because they aint gonna listen to me. But no both of my parents have taken the jab. Its their choice but its retarded as far as i am concerned. And cowardly.

You may not think you're a wodrsmith mate, but that was very well articulated.

 

That's how it is....these people aren't just *sheep*, nameless numpties to be scorned and abused, they have been damaged and fallen for the biggest hoax in our lifetime. But their continued compliance and refusal to listen to reason (or anything that goes against the MSM/Gov't line) is harming us, and perpetuating the nightmare. So it's difficult.

 

My good lady showed me a pic last night of someone she knows, and their daughter was wearing one of these fucking masks. She can't be more than 5 or 6. I wanted to scream. But if I push too far even with her, and point it out all the time how this is fucking evil, I don't know if she will one day just join the other side because it's more convenient.

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3 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

52% increase is fucking massive.

Why will the sheep not wake up??

If a tree falls in the forest and the MSM declines to report on it, it doesn't make a sound.

 

It's incredible how little people know.

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FED UP TO THE BACK TEETH WITH THE WHOLE LOT.

 

I am 66 and quite frankly, fed up to the back teeth with all of it..........I have researched and studied many subjects for 51 yrs--UFOs, paranormal, conspiracies, ancient civilisations to name but a few--with a few specialist subjects. 

I have had more time than many to do it for many reasons. I have a MOUNTAIN of hard, solid PROOF that this whole SCAMDEMIC is just that--no question. 


It won't be allowed on MSM or social media.

It is no good trying to convince or teach anyone about conspiracies (for instance). They are a fact of life and history is FULL of them. There are those just starting out trying to find the truth about the so called "fringe" subjects---but because many think the UFO subject (for example) started in 2004 with the "tic-tacs" (re-branded "UAP") and grew up in the age of the internet, most have no idea what the history of the subject is. It's not their fault---that's just the way it is. 

 

What is important right now is what's planned in the near future. 
In UK, as I forecast a while ago, Doris Johnson is now talking about "a hard winter ahead--and "cases" going up again right now. We all know "cases" have been debunked because the PCR "test" is not fit for purpose and was not made to test for pathogens---especially when they are amplified up to 45 times. a piece of wood and a banana would prove positive--AND THEY HAVE. 
Another lockdown is inevitable. It is planned..

 

There is absolute proof now that the jabbed are "super-spreaders" and end up in hospital far more than those UNjabbed.

(spreaders of WHAT may I ask--as there has NEVER been a paper showing the existence of said covid.) No one has isolated and purified it...not the WHOLE genome. Around 66% of it, but the other 34% filled in by algorithms.

There have been FOIA requests to 44 countries asking them to provide the proof that it exists---cannot be too hard can it--but NONE can. All have sent back replies saying they cannot provide the information asked for. 

 

There is SO MUCH hard, solid, OFFICIAL proof that the whole thing is a scam that I am quite jaded in posting any more proof.

Last time I did it, I was restricted by Fuckbook for 3 days--and my post removed. The terrorists are the Government and media--both mainstream and social. They have been the ENEMY of the people for a long time now---and it's about time the people woke up.

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13 minutes ago, Fluke said:

And i have been lost for words since this shit show started last year. Like a depersonalised solider (not comparing myself to a solider) with a thousand yard stare. Cannot believe what i am seeing for almost 2 years straight. And how quickly the mental illness spread like a cancer

Thats the tough bit ain't it, holding it together when everyone around you is losing it, like another poster just said, you cannot push it with those who are under the influence. I was talking with someone close and they said I am waiting for my booster date, I said but you said you have had enough of all this crap, they said but everybody else is having one. So, I said I see an awful lot of people demonstrating against it, since when came the reply, I left it at. Maybe they will notice for themselves after a little thought.

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I did wonder for a time which way it would go regarding vaccination, would those vaccinated be the new owners of the earth build back better part of the new world order because they acted like obedient wannabe slaves or - would those who thought for themselves eg showing intelligence be the ones who skipped the first and then second wave and as a result, kudos. You lot get to survive. You're not us but you're halfway there sort of thing.

 

I lean towards the idea that you get what you're given and you deserve what you get now. Harsh I know.

 

 

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HOW TO REFUSE VACCINE MANDATES

 

Adapt to your own personal situation.

 

 

You have to internalize the fact that everything in society operates under commercial principles, meaning everything is an offer. A mandate is only a mandate unless the presumption is rebutted, your assent is consent in this system. You have to give notice and you have unlimited right to contract.

 

If you’re working a job or at a university laying on the pressure, you have a very small chance of being successful through non compliance, which is simply going to put you in legal default and dishonour. You must first notice them through an affidavit simply stating your body is your property, you do not consent to any vaccines, no authority has access or presumption to force any medical procedure on you.

 

Very important, offer them conditional acceptance if they will first assume all financial liability for any damages caused by vaccines. This puts you in honour and passes the buck to them. They cannot contract unilaterally.

Include a notice of deprivation of rights under colour of law. There are serious criminal offenses for this violation and every government is operating under colour of law.

An affidavit is required for any lawsuit so you already have that taken care of, it’s a serious document any company will have to take pause. plus a notice already puts you in a superior position if things have to get litigious, you’re in honour, they are not if they ignored your reasonable notice putting them in liability if they try to fire or expel you. You don’t need an exemption you need to get a confidentiality agreement with them, a contract.

Always hold your position.


YOU SEND
ADAPT TO OWN PERSONAL SITUATION

 

I conditionally accept that you have the right to mandate COVID-19 ‘vaccinations’ for all your staff, PROVIDED you deliver to me the following:

 

1) Material evidence, not hearsay or opinion, which proves beyond reasonable doubt that the COVID ‘vaccines’ are incapable of harming me.
2) Material evidence, not hearsay or opinion, which proves beyond reasonable doubt that the COVID ‘vaccines’ have undergone rigorous double-blind placebo safety studies.
3) Material evidence, not hearsay or opinion, which proves beyond reasonable doubt that I will not die, suffer or develop any adverse reactions including, but not limited to, neurological problems, blood clots, blindness, nerve damage, deafness, autoimmune disease, anaphylaxis, anaphylactoid reactions, allergies, fertility complications, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, etc and/or suffer any other form of harm, complication, or die as a result of or because of being injected with any COVID-19 ‘vaccine’.
4) Material evidence, not hearsay or opinion, which proves beyond reasonable doubt that the COVID ‘vaccines’ approved for emergency use by the MHRA provide immunity from either SARS-COV-2 or COVID-19.
5) Material evidence, not hearsay or opinion, which proves beyond reasonable doubt that the care home has sought legal advice on whether it is lawful to mandate the ‘vaccination’ of your staff and that you have performed an appropriate risk assessment.
6) Material evidence, not hearsay or opinion, which proves beyond reasonable doubt that you have employed the Precautionary Principle when deciding whether or not to ‘vaccinate’ staff at the care home.
7) Material evidence, not hearsay or opinion, which proves beyond reasonable doubt that you have informed your public indemnity insurers if there is any possibility that serious or fatal ‘vaccine’ adverse events might ensue upon ‘vaccination’ of myself or any other staff, in which case you would be liable for gross negligence and perhaps even manslaughter."

 

THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE WHAT YOU ASK FOR----THEREFORE--DO THE FOLLOWING:

 

Please be advised that your silence on this very serious matter has given rise, by TACIT PROCURATION, to your agreement that:...... . 

1) There is no material evidence which proves beyond reasonable doubt that the COVID ‘vaccines’ are incapable of harming me.
2) There is no material evidence which proves beyond reasonable doubt that the COVID ‘vaccines’ have undergone rigorous double-blind placebo safety studies.
3) There is no independent material evidence which proves beyond reasonable doubt that I will not die, suffer or develop any adverse reactions including, but not limited to, neurological problems, blood clots, blindness, nerve damage, deafness, autoimmune disease, anaphylaxis, anaphylactoid reactions, allergies, fertility complications, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, etc and/or suffer any other form of harm, complication, or die as a result of or because of being injected with any COVID-19 ‘vaccine’.
4) There is no material evidence which proves beyond reasonable doubt that the COVID ‘vaccines’ approved for emergency use by the MHRA provide immunity from either SARS-COV-2 or COVID-19.
5) There is no material evidence which proves beyond reasonable doubt that that the care home has sought legal advice on whether it is lawful to mandate the ‘vaccination’ of your staff and that you have performed an appropriate risk assessment.
6) There is no material evidence which proves beyond reasonable doubt that you have employed the Precautionary Principle when deciding whether or not to ‘vaccinate’ children at the care home.
7) There is no material evidence which proves beyond reasonable doubt that you have informed your public indemnity insurers that there is any possibility that serious or fatal ‘vaccine’ adverse events might ensue upon ‘vaccination’ of my child, in which case you would be liable for gross negligence and perhaps even manslaughter." .I will also be holding you jointly and severally liable for any and all civil damages claims, in the event I comply with such a mandate under protect and duress for the sole purpose of if I suffer any injury or harm as a result.

In sincerity and honour, without ill will, frivolity or vexation.

 

***Note---this was for care homes----but you can adapt it for your own personal situation.

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