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On 10/18/2021 at 9:10 PM, ar55 said:

 

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Tesco has opened its first checkout-free store in central London where people can shop without having to scan a product.

The UK's biggest retailer said its branch in High Holborn has been converted to allow customers to shop and pay without using a checkout.

The new format, known as GetGo, follows similar stores opened by Amazon.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58951984

 

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2 minutes ago, DaleP said:

The UK's biggest retailer said its branch in High Holborn has been converted to allow customers to shop and pay without using a checkout.

The new format, known as GetGo, follows similar stores opened by Amazon.

LOL 

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I laughed because the corporate boardroom is about as fascist as it gets but I don't want to take the thread off topic so I just laughed. But then while we all point fingers the people who have gotten the wealthiest from it all are sitting in the very corporate boardrooms while maybe the like of Cameron was pointed out as being a gofer for them, I am sure plenty of others slipped the net.

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5 minutes ago, Sheepy said:

I laughed because the corporate boardroom is about as fascist as it gets but I don't want to take the thread off topic so I just laughed. But then while we all point fingers the people who have gotten the wealthiest from it all are sitting in the very corporate boardrooms while maybe the like of Cameron was pointed out as being a gofer for them, I am sure plenty of others slipped the net.

 

How? Can you elaborate? Are you saying the corporate boardroom is ultra-nationalistic? Do they care about country and race? I'm trying to understand why people keep using the term instead of something more apt.

 

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20 minutes ago, Sheepy said:

 

I'm not denying that it's a merger of corporation and state, I just don't understand why people seem to forget one of the key elements.

 

If you live in a nation that crushes, censors and punishes Fascists, is it really Fascism that you're dealing with? Is it really Fascism if you're being screwed by a rootless internationalist clique?

 

Are there some elements of Fascism in what we're seeing the gov do? Of course, but there are elements of other ideologies too.

 

How comes Fascists think the idea of us being ruled by Fascists is bonkers?

 

 

 

 

It all makes no sense to me. My nation is being destroyed by woke Capitalists and Marxists, flooding my country with people that they indoctrinate to hate the natives. They push degeneracy everywhere. Attack the family unit, and so on. Yet, the mainstream political spectrum still shouts Fascist.

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59 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I'm not denying that it's a merger of corporation and state, I just don't understand why people seem to forget one of the key elements.

 

If you live in a nation that crushes, censors and punishes Fascists, is it really Fascism that you're dealing with? Is it really Fascism if you're being screwed by a rootless internationalist clique?

 

Are there some elements of Fascism in what we're seeing the gov do? Of course, but there are elements of other ideologies too.

 

How comes Fascists think the idea of us being ruled by Fascists is bonkers?

 

 

 

 

It all makes no sense to me. My nation is being destroyed by woke Capitalists and Marxists, flooding my country with people that they indoctrinate to hate the natives. They push degeneracy everywhere. Attack the family unit, and so on. Yet, the mainstream political spectrum still shouts Fascist.

 

Anyone know the source of the following quote?

 

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/02/07/fake-quote-files-mussolini-on-fascism-and-corporatism/

 

'(If you have a source for the quote based on an actual original document that you copy and mail us, please let us know, and you will receive a free 3-year subscription to the Public Eye magazine)'

http://www.publiceye.org/fascist/corporatism.html

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1 hour ago, Sheepy said:

I enjoy Skitso posts all that was really said was don't bother trying to psychoanalyse me. Which amused me no end, I am not sure how that makes a poster violent. Probably just getting a reaction.

 

‘Violent’?

 

The cognitive functions of some here are a bit poor 😬

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7 hours ago, Diesel said:

I have wondered for some time about this, I mean even the spooks are people, Edward Snowden was a spook. I just wonder if things get really bad would the spooks switch sides. The intelligence services have the information and the power to blow the lid off everything and change the world

It's complex psychology and sociology what you're touching there. Whistle blowers are but a few of the 100's of thousands working in that field. I've coined the term "Disciples of Tyrants" for those who serve tyrants in any capacity. Maybe we can shorten that to DoT. They can be found in every authoritarian, or tyrannical system of "government"., on all levels of it. These DoTs are believers, and we know what that means from all religions humanity has ever come up with. I have recently posted 2 books in recommended reading that can help to understand these mechanisms better.

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1 hour ago, DaleP said:

 

 

Just a thought.... As per zarkov's useful post, a finding by Weston A. Price Foundation.....

ACT is not the law. As in the note above "Case of Proclamations...."

Correct me if I understood wrongly. You cannot be punished.

 

 

I appreciate the positive affirmation of common law by Weston Price Foundation!

 

I think you understand it rightly. Acts are legislation not Law. Legislation is commercial, law of the sea, law of invading pirates.

 

I think that common law, as it is based on principles of natural law is something that we may be compelled to collectively stand behind or under as the legislators become more draconian.

 

Natural Law/Common law presents the opportunity to unify the mass of humanity under life affirming moral principles.

As common law is embedded into our constitution, its only our lack of familiarity with it that prevents its more frequent use.

The coronavirus act was enabled after gov announced that covid was no longer classified as an HCID.

The gov guidance is referred to and regarded by legislators to be enforceable which it is not but is enacted commercially upon the public regardless.

If the legislators do not protect our sovereignty then they act against us!

 

These acts and many others conflict with the established rights of sovereignty under the constitution/common law.

Its is not possible to have laws that conflict with one another, one must be right and the other not.

Sovereign rights are innate, cannot be removed and are above any and all laws allowing us the freedom to own property (including self ownership), to travel and act unhindered in the pursuit of life and happiness provided we cause no harm, loss or deception to others.

 

If Natural Law is derived from principles based on objective morality which affirms life. Morality then is an act of consciousness, the divine enabler of life which we observe all around us in various forms and stages.

Natural law then can be seen as divine law and as precursor to common law bestowing each of us our inalienable rights.

 

Just musing though! - historically common law was referenced in connection with Christianity thereby linking the divine and placing it above the monarchy or any other body thus keeping them in check.

 

Overall, their commercial legislation has no place in law.  The discrepancy between Law and commerce/legislation becomes all the more apparent as there is no equitability between them.

Logically a sovereign being can choose which commercial transaction he enters into.

 

Acts and Statutes therefore cant rationally be seen as legitimate or relevant other than commercially.

 

 

- as far as I can tell  lol

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3 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I'm not denying that it's a merger of corporation and state, I just don't understand why people seem to forget one of the key elements.

 

If you live in a nation that crushes, censors and punishes Fascists, is it really Fascism that you're dealing with? Is it really Fascism if you're being screwed by a rootless internationalist clique?

 

Are there some elements of Fascism in what we're seeing the gov do? Of course, but there are elements of other ideologies too.

 

How comes Fascists think the idea of us being ruled by Fascists is bonkers?

 

 

 

 

It all makes no sense to me. My nation is being destroyed by woke Capitalists and Marxists, flooding my country with people that they indoctrinate to hate the natives. They push degeneracy everywhere. Attack the family unit, and so on. Yet, the mainstream political spectrum still shouts Fascist.

I think the key element of all those isms are psychopathic tyrants. Their rule is based upon division among the population. What better way to achieve that than by politics and religion. Both have their foundation in believe, not rational thinking. They are traps very hard to escape.

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5 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

I posted in the other thread but will copy it here for anyone affected.

Fight back please! You gonna lose your job then you've got nothing to lose.

 

https://pjhlaw.co.uk/no-jab-no-job-employment-tribunal-claims/

 

 

Last year I "designed" the following contract to present to your vaccinating MD. In case they do not sign it, you are free to refuse the vaccine. It's a bit in the same line as your posting but aiming at the execution 😉 side of the "operation".

 

I, …..................................... (name MD, Physician, Nurse),

herewith declare the following;

 

  1. Qualifications as healthcare professional

    1. I am a fully qualified Medical Doctor, Physician, Nurse and completed all requested education and exams with success according to the laws of this country.

    2. I have taken the Hippocratic Oath, or recited the Declaration of Geneva (1948) and uphold the medical principle of “Primum non nocere” which is Latin for “First, do no harm”.

    3. I fully understand and am aware of the meaning of non-maleficence, as the principal precepts of bioethics and practicing as a healthcare professional.

    4. I am not pressured, forced or else to practice medicine other than out of my own free will and declare that administering the hereunder mentioned Covid-19 Vaccine is my full responsibility and mine only.

  2. Informed consent of my patient

    1. To give informed consent, my patient must have adequate reasoning faculties and be in the possession of all relevant facts concerning this Covid-19 Vaccination I intend to administer today …...../........../.........

    2. I have thoroughly examined my patient to determine that there are no impairments to reasoning and judgement that may prevent informed consent. I am aware that my patient may verbally agree or give consent out of fear, perceived social pressure, or psychological difficulty in asserting his/her true feelings. I have done everything within my capacities and abilities to ensure my patient's consent is genuine and not given because of aforementioned fears, social pressure or psychological difficulties.

    3. I have fully, completely and adequately informed my patient of all the risks involved with this Covid-19 vaccine, named …................................... manufactured by …..................... with batch number ….................... production date …...................., as publicly known on this day of administering. I have researched and investigated said risks to the best of my abilities and confirm those risks are real and existing.

    4. I persist in administering above specified Covid-19 vaccine, despite all known and unknown risks, even after having received the informed consent of my patient.

  3. Liability

    1. Following article 2.d. of this declaration, I take full personal, responsibility (financial and social) for any future health complications of my patient, resulting from this vaccine treatment, including all presently known possible complications and not excluding presently unknown complications that might occur in the future and are related to this vaccine.

    2. I will fully cooperate with any possible future legal investigation, provide all requested information and willfully submit myself to the legal proceedings that might follow out of that investigation.

    3. I wave any rights to call upon laws or regulations of this country that could possibly dismiss and/or negate my legal liability and will not attempt to challenge that liability in any way.

     

I have read this declaration, fully understand it, accept it and agree with its terms and conditions.

 

Date ….../......./........

 

Signature................................................

 

Name in writing …........................................ identification number …...........................ID/PP

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7 hours ago, skitzorat said:

HA!

 

I can't help it. I've made my peace with the camps already😶 - joking/not joking😬

 

But they gotta catch me first and I'm a sprinter... 😋

 

But by hook or by crook, no needle is going into my arms...

I wonder if you ever read Orwell's 1984 and made it to the end. If so, then you must know how Winston Smith ended up on a bench. In the 50's Joost Meerloo wrote a book "Rape of the mind". Worth while to read it, in my opinion.

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