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Comedy Time Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Bullshit. Covid has killed around 313 healthy people under the age of 60 & under 1439 total in hospitals... with a fraudulent inaccurate test. You are cherry picking and let me ask you another dead OBVIOUS question. If this is a big scam why the hell do they release charts saying "pre-existing conditions"?? Far simpler just to not mention it huh? Makes it far more scary then doesn't it. 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: The WHO is a terrorist organisation, funded & controlled mainly by Gates mafia. Its goal has always been to bring about a NWO. The Great Reset. Yeah whatever. You're using one conspiracy to prop up another and by doing so enabling the auto-dismiss of anything they present. Oh, except where they admit dumb things that "give the game away" - like we haven't got any virus available. 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: What kind of a response is that? Why dont you recognise & have an issue with this Orwellian bullshit & attack of free speech & our liberties? They even censored the NY Post on twatter a few days ago, because it went against the commie narrative. Fakebook bans anyone talking about Covid1984 outside the offical narrative. They ban peoples paypal accounts who dont follow the far left woke agenda. I know you can read and make a good job of responding to my points, albeit missing glaring inconsistencies.....but how the hell can you fail to see where I typed.... I don't agree with their policy. Ergo, I DO recognise all of that. 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Anyone buying media as gospel is infected. That is a gas lighting term and I already told you I don't buy mainstream media as gospel. Accept what I say. Just as much I don't automatically buy conspiracy theories. 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: You post a nurse that supposedly is exposing the hoax?? I would think more critical, she is "ex" army, so is she really telling the truth or hyping the situation & telling half truths? And you post references to "nurses" one of which is selling books of all her exploits on AMAZON! "Yeah, I went in and they were telling the truth" doesn't sell as well. 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Conspiracy theorist is a gaslighting term. I apologise if it offended you. "You are a tinfoil septic" / "you simpleton" / "No dodge gimpy." / "Youre infected mate big time." / " its boring to fuck replying to an apologist" / "Jog on then fake news." / "Bullshit boy" / your rant about me and Gareth Icke None of that is gaslighting huh? 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: You are a tinfoil septic, who believes everything the media corpocracy & crappy fact checkers say, you demonstrated that with your Snopes post on Mason Wells. That didnt debunk anything. I am somebody who doesn't drop into any category. I analyse evidence and act on it. I don't dismiss it automatically - either mainstream or alternative. The snopes article didn't debunk anything for you, because you undoubtedly didn't even read it. But you expect me to soak up all the things you read and dismiss all the things you dismiss. 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Bullshit boy you are clueless & im laughing at your ignorance on this thread. Your opinion is largely based on cherry picked articles and propped up with other conspiracies enabling you to dismiss things without even checking them. 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Thats all we ever do on this forum..like your Jewy nurse you posted. What her real agenda is..is she controlled ops. Like many nurses putting out info about hospital conditions. They get PAID to put out propaganda. I wondered how long before the "joos dunnit" entered into the proceedings. Or she was telling the truth and some of the nurses you put out have quieter regions. Overall I'm inclined to believe that the virus is being exaggerated....but it isn't fake! You dismiss everything that doesn't work in your pre-loaded model. What steps have you taken to check on the possibility that some of YOUR info is propaganda designed to create this colossal distrust? 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Yes I posted some stats above, from the NHS clearly showing hospitals wernt full. Im constantly researching this topic. Youve done zero research & just run your mouth. I have never seen such an obvious case of confirmation bias. Your research begins and ends with everything that fits into your model. I'm not running my mouth, I am critiquing your content. Sorry of it bugs you, but these are valid points and you seem to be getting all pissy about it. 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Brigade 77 psychological warfare army of trolls Along with Hasbara, pushing the offical narrative. In a democracy, funded by the tax payers. I'm not actually making any headway here am I. For about the 4th time...... WHERE ARE THEY on this thread? You raised them as this brigade of shills. So why aren't they on this thread? As I said - I know I'm not one and hell's bells, I only just popped in the other day. 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Why does Bill Gates control world health & has predicted everything that is happening? A pandemic was as inevitable as Christmas. Obama spoke about one years ago. There are models for every eventuality for operational response planning.....not so much with this though. Gates is the major contributor to WHO, so he must get a say in running it I suppose. The problem is the Dr. Evil angle and that is a complete other conspiracy. 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: You quarantine the sick & vulnerable, you dont restrict the movement of healthy. That is tyranny & is precisely what has destroyed the economy. Only a complete retard could not see this from day one. I think that sounds a fairly reasonable course of action. So where do you quarantine them? A hospital? 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: SO fucking what? It was empty. That was his point. He was exposing FASCIST TYRANTS hes a fucking hero. No it was not! The area generally open to the public - A&E - was closed, not the bloody hospital! And this nutter went into a QUARANTINED area. You just suggested it and he breached the quarantine guidelines issued for protection against catching and re-transmission of an official pandemic virus.....regardless of your conspiracy conclusions! 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Only a filthy tyrant apologist would support sending him to prison. And only a careless reader would have failed to notice me disagreeing with his prison sentence and saying he should have been fined. You though.....give him a pat on the back for his sterling work breaching a quarantined hospital! 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: As ive explained already to you, they did fake them & are still faking them with fraudulent death certificates & tests. I posted a video with Vallance in a press conference admitting this. You are the one dodging the points here. And once again you DELIBERATELY avoid the point I am making!! If they are faking these stats, why the bloody hell don't they make them better and why the hell did he come clean about things that cause all this uproar! Basically you are claiming all this subterfuge but the people doing it are too incompetent to back up their actions - that's bollocks. 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: This isnt the Comedytime septic show...start a thread on anything you have an issue with ive stated. It isn't the oddsnsods free to post anything he wants unchallenged thread either. Last time I checked this was a debate forum and I am taking your position to task, based on your dismissal of conflicting data. Surely this gives you a chance to show that is not the case - you've failed to so far but nobody on your side cares. IT's also a massive point to inquire why nobody is taking any other post to task regardless of it source and content. My remark was accurate about this leaving the impression "there is this whole thread of data and info" and it all must be right. My position if you give a rat's arse(or not!) - At this moment I think the effect of the virus has thus far been horribly overstated, but the virus itself is certainly very real and has the potential to still kill quite a significant number of people over and above the norm. Edited October 17, 2020 by Comedy Time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-54568111 "It counts deaths where the virus is mentioned on the death certificate. " why mention such absurdity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Lord Humungus said: For a disease to be classified as a "pandemic" it has to kill many people. Covid 19 does not kill many people. More people die of the seasonal flu every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankVitali Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Here is the full length of video from WDA: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, FrankVitali said: Here is the full length of video from WDA: a local politican and ex-GP quit her seat because the views of her party were different to hers. she was anti-mask and questioned how the statistics are recorded. fair play to her. https://www.derrydaily.net/2020/10/17/derry-aontu-councillor-anne-mccloskey-to-quit-seat-over-coronavirus-views/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankVitali Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) Latest video by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich Edited October 17, 2020 by FrankVitali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctua Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Here we go. Digital 'health passport' trials under way to aid reopening of borders CommonPass aims to create common standard proving a traveller is Covid-free or vaccinated https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/17/digital-health-passport-trials-commonpass-travel-covid-19 A new digital “health passport” is to be piloted by a small number of passengers flying from the UK to the US for the first time next week under plans for a global framework for Covid-safe air travel. The CommonPass system, backed by the World Economic Forum (WEF), is designed to create a common international standard for passengers to demonstrate they do not have coronavirus. However, critics of similar schemes point to concerns over the sensitivity and specificity of the tests in various countries amid fears over greater monitoring over people’s movements. Paul Meyer, the CEO at the Commons Project, which was given startup funding by the Rockefeller Foundation two years ago and created the digital health pass, said countries that have closed borders and imposed quarantines are looking for ways to “thoughtfully reopen” their borders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankVitali Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) Oh for fucks sake. ^^ Sometimes wonder if all this is just a dream. Edited October 17, 2020 by FrankVitali 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Downtown Brighton this afternoon ... almost no masks, everyone snogging and mucking about as usual, candy floss and illuminations on the peer, traffic jams and people crossing the road. 98.2% mask free. Nobody gives a shit. @Comedy Time Yeah it might be worse than seasonal flu, but some years are bad and a lot of people die, go check the records. And when I checked what I found was that if you compare 2020 with previous years in the UK, from 1950-2000 the death rate was much higher than it is these days and much higher than it will be in 2020, by roughly 120,000 more deaths per year. Every year. After 2000 the UK death rate dropped down a bit, but it's not along ago. So even if 100,000 people die more people die this year of CV, that would still be less than the deaths every year from 1950-2000. So in conclusion, it is just a bad year. Better in fact to classify it as a 1-in-30 year event. That is the best kind of measure. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitochondrial Eve Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 This graph, taken from the main DI site today, is interesting. It compares the ONS death rates average for previous years (in blue) against 2020 (in red). What seems apparent to me is that the 2020 spike in deaths in March / April (deliberately forced by the government IMO to present an image of a pandemic), then corrects itself by the massive dip in April / May that follows. It suggests that deaths were hastened in people who were otherwise seriously ill and would probably still have died within the weeks and months that followed. Otherwise the pattern is entirely normal and the effect of the "virus" on death rates overall, spread across the year, has been minimal. https://davidicke.com/2020/10/17/office-of-national-statistics-ons-uk-death-figures-average-for-previous-years-in-blue-against-2020-in-red-so-wheres-the-crisis/ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Exactly @Mitochondrial Eve, and as Icke has been saying, the lockdown has caused more deaths than the virus and this is were the fruad lies. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankVitali Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 @Mitochondrial Eve @Morpheus Another explanation for the spike in March might well be that they were 'killing off' the old folks in the care homes, i.e. DNR, and no access to antibiotics, 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 That's what we are saying @FrankVitali 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideforever Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 After Brexit the moaner-sheeple-liberals will shut up as there will be no turning back, then the CV moaning will also come to an end, esp if Trump gets in again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, FrankVitali said: Oh for fucks sake. ^^ Sometimes wonder if all this is just a dream. A terrifying nightmare more like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Comedy Time said: you've failed to so far but nobody on your side cares. He's failed nothing. What with you quoting SNOPES - FFS - l have no time at all for any of your 'robust' debate. l'm surprised Odds is giving you any of his time. You might notice - (almost) nobody cares for what you have to say on this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 the accuracy of the test results also no doubt play a part in inflating the numbers, especially seeing the false positives in sports where players can get a follow-up test to prove a false positive. non-sports people don't have that luxury. when we test positive that's it. we're a stat and our livelihoods are under tyranny. https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/fai-to-investigate-second-potential-false-positive-test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy Talk Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said: This graph, taken from the main DI site today, is interesting. It compares the ONS death rates average for previous years (in blue) against 2020 (in red). What seems apparent to me is that the 2020 spike in deaths in March / April (deliberately forced by the government IMO to present an image of a pandemic), then corrects itself by the massive dip in April / May that follows. It suggests that deaths were hastened in people who were otherwise seriously ill and would probably still have died within the weeks and months that followed. Otherwise the pattern is entirely normal and the effect of the "virus" on death rates overall, spread across the year, has been minimal. https://davidicke.com/2020/10/17/office-of-national-statistics-ons-uk-death-figures-average-for-previous-years-in-blue-against-2020-in-red-so-wheres-the-crisis/ The 3 weeks in January when deaths were below average always looked suspicious, especially when even MSM reported hospital admissions for flu late last year were TEN times higher than the previous year: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/03/hospitalisations-flu-10-fold-higher-last-year-official-figures/ If anything, deaths should have been significantly higher than average in January considering the number of people needing to be hospitalised in the preceding weeks. Given the govt subsequently admitted in late spring that they were including deaths each day that had occurred weeks previously, I have no doubt they 'held back' a large number of deaths from January in order to beef up the figures during the 'spike' in March/April. It's not rocket science. Edited October 17, 2020 by Shy Talk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Basket Case said: He's failed nothing. What with you quoting SNOPES - FFS - l have no time at all for any of your 'robust' debate. l'm surprised Odds is giving you any of his time. You might notice - (almost) nobody cares for what you have to say on this thread. As I said. This is hardly a place where anyone will disagree with any alternative theory! Thanks for chiming in though. How did you rate his insults? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankVitali Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebestein Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, rideforever said: After Brexit the moaner-sheeple-liberals will shut up as there will be no turning back, then the CV moaning will also come to an end, esp if Trump gets in again. Nah, the rejoin campaign will begin. Boris is more in hock to the NWO than the EU. Edited October 17, 2020 by Mikhail Liebestein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: How did you rate his insults? On par with yours generally.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: This is hardly a place where anyone will disagree with any alternative theory! lf onIy 20% of what's brought here is correct, it's a WORLD WIDE - NEW ORDER - PLANEDEMIC - plain and simple. A World Wide CRIME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 57 minutes ago, Basket Case said: On par with yours generally.. Show me some of mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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