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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

NatSocs were obsessed with strong and healthy families though.

I don't see the relevance of your comment. But I'll answer with a question. What about peoples mental health?

The 3rd Reich was a heavily propagandized nation, just as we are now. This is not beneficial for ones mental health

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I started a new job not so long ago and quit after three weeks, I refused to wear a stupid mask all day at all, laughed at the managers and their covid terror.. I could see it wasn't going to end well

I've already posted about this in the 'Come Together by Region?' thread in the Solutions forum.   But now here is the advert for the big event on the 29th August. It would be great if as ma

Summary meeting with MP.   Big sign on door saying have to wear a mask. Reptilian brain nearly kicked in and panicked - temptation to go to the store and buy one. Managed to keep it together

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Just now, Lord Humungus said:

I don't see the relevance of your comment. But I'll answer with a question. What about peoples mental health?

The 3rd Reich was a heavily propagandized nation, just as we are now. This is not beneficial for ones mental health

 

Having a hostile group of people saying "Germany must perish" isn't beneficial for ones health either.

 

Not all propaganda is equal. There is plenty of warnings from propaganda from back then that is now happening. Does that mean that moustache man's actions were good? Nope, but I would be lying if I said the Bolsheviks trying to destroy Amalek wouldn't have concerned me too back then though.

 

Anyway, I'm sure we can debate what was happening back then in another thread. Sorry for derailing.

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3 hours ago, Lord Humungus said:

This is straight from the 3rd Reich/USSR playbook

 

25 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Having a hostile group of people saying "Germany must perish" isn't beneficial for ones health either.

 

Not all propaganda is equal. There is plenty of warnings from propaganda from back then that is now happening. Does that mean that moustache man's actions were good? Nope, but I would be lying if I said the Bolsheviks trying to destroy Amalek wouldn't have concerned me too back then though.

 

Anyway, I'm sure we can debate what was happening back then in another thread. Sorry for derailing.

 

I don't want to be propagandized. Not by commies, not by nazis, and not by globalists.

The media should bring the news as objectively as possible and let people make up their own minds.

 

All this "corona crisis" news is propaganda

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1 hour ago, Lord Humungus said:

They're actually calling it a "Pandemic" which is BS. In a real Pandemic their would be dead bodies in the streets.

 

Thanks for the correction - typo. The second statement is actually just daft.

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55 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

“But…but this is DIFFERENT. The COVID VIRUS is SCIENCE.”

 

No. It’s not science. This is about an investigation into what is CALLED science.

 

Scientism dogma skepticism 

https://www.aaas.org/programs/dialogue-science-ethics-and-religion/what-scientism

 

"It is one thing to celebrate science for its achievements and remarkable ability to explain a wide variety of phenomena in the natural world. But to claim there is nothing knowable outside the scope of science would be similar to a successful fisherman saying that whatever he can’t catch in his nets does not exist (15). Once you accept that science is the only source of human knowledge, you have adopted a philosophical position (scientism) that cannot be verified, or falsified, by science itself. It is, in a word, unscientific."

 

 

At some point a group will tell an individual that it has power of it because its a collective

or "consensus" and knows best (this is a change in implied consent the biggest change since ww2)

 

1000 Government scientists all agreeing with each other after all processing the exact same FILTERED government data hold the value of 1  "scientism" opinion 

 

1000 Free thinking scientists with the possibility of disagreeing with each other after processing unrestricted data not FILTERED by government 

hold the value of 1000 professional opinions 

 

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

 

Thanks for the correction - typo. The second statement is actually just daft.

For a disease to be classified as a "pandemic" it has to kill many people. Covid 19 does not kill many people. More people die of the seasonal flu every year.

 

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10 minutes ago, wingwang said:

A small victory...

 

Courts overturn 11pm coronavirus curfew for restaurants and pubs in Berlin

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/10/16/courts-overturn-11pm-coronavirus-curfew-restaurants-pubs-berlin/

If we can get a few more of them over the line then there might be some light at the end of the tunnel. 

 

I'm interested to see if anything will come of this:

 

if this is true, then this could be the case that stops it all. Who the truther who works for MI5 is, is anyone's guess. I found that interesting. Although I must admit, the guy being interviewed sounded like Rich Hall to me. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Bullshit. Covid has killed around 313 healthy people under the age of 60 & under 1439 total in hospitals...

with a fraudulent inaccurate test.

 

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You are cherry picking and let me ask you another dead OBVIOUS question. If this is a big scam why the hell do they release charts saying "pre-existing conditions"?? Far simpler just to not mention it huh? Makes it far more scary then doesn't it.

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

The WHO is a terrorist organisation, funded & controlled mainly by Gates mafia. Its goal has always been to bring about a NWO. The Great Reset.

 

Yeah whatever. You're using one conspiracy to prop up another and by doing so enabling the auto-dismiss of anything they present.  Oh, except where they admit dumb things that "give the game away" - like we haven't got any virus available.

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

What kind of a response is that?

Why dont you recognise & have an issue with this Orwellian bullshit & attack of free speech & our liberties? They even censored the NY Post on twatter a few days ago, because it went against the commie narrative. Fakebook bans anyone talking about Covid1984 outside the offical narrative. They ban peoples paypal accounts who dont follow the far left woke agenda.

 

I know you can read and make a good job of responding to my points, albeit missing glaring inconsistencies.....but how the hell can you fail to see where I typed....

 

I don't agree with their policy. Ergo, I DO recognise all of that.

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Anyone buying media as gospel is infected.

 

That is a gas lighting term and I already told you I don't buy mainstream media as gospel. Accept what I say. Just as much I don't automatically buy conspiracy theories.

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

You post a nurse that supposedly is exposing the hoax?? I would think more critical, she is "ex" army, so is she really telling the truth or hyping the situation & telling half truths?

 

And you post references to "nurses" one of which is selling books of all her exploits on AMAZON! 

 

"Yeah, I went in and they were telling the truth" doesn't sell as well.

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Conspiracy theorist is a gaslighting term.

 

I apologise if it offended you.

 

"You are a tinfoil septic" /  "you simpleton" /  "No dodge gimpy." /  "Youre infected mate big time." /  " its boring to fuck replying to an apologist" / "Jog on then fake news." /  "Bullshit boy" / your rant about me and Gareth Icke

 

None of that is gaslighting huh? 

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

You are a tinfoil septic, who believes everything the media corpocracy & crappy fact checkers say, you demonstrated that with your Snopes post on Mason Wells. That didnt debunk anything.

 

 

I am somebody who doesn't drop into any category. I analyse evidence and act on it. I don't dismiss it automatically - either mainstream or alternative. The snopes article didn't debunk anything for you, because you undoubtedly didn't even read it. But you expect me to soak up all the things you read and dismiss all the things you dismiss.

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Bullshit boy you are clueless & im laughing at your ignorance on this thread.

 

Your opinion is largely based on cherry picked articles and propped up with other conspiracies enabling you to dismiss things without even checking them. 

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Thats all we ever do on this forum..like your Jewy nurse you posted. What her real agenda is..is she controlled ops.

Like many nurses putting out info about hospital conditions. They get PAID to put out propaganda.🙈

 

I wondered how long before the "joos dunnit" entered into the proceedings.  Or she was telling the truth and some of the nurses you put out have quieter regions. Overall I'm inclined to believe that the virus is being exaggerated....but it isn't fake! You dismiss everything that doesn't work in your pre-loaded model. 

 

What steps have you taken to check on the possibility that some of YOUR info is propaganda designed to create this colossal distrust? 

 

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Yes I posted some stats above, from the NHS clearly showing hospitals wernt full. Im constantly researching this topic. Youve done zero research & just run your mouth.

 

I have never seen such an obvious case of confirmation bias. Your research begins and ends with everything that fits into your model. I'm not running my mouth, I am critiquing your content. Sorry of it bugs you, but these are valid points and you seem to be getting all pissy about it.

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Brigade 77 psychological warfare army of trolls Along with Hasbara, pushing the offical narrative.

In a democracy, funded by the tax payers.

 

I'm not actually making any headway here am I. For about the 4th time...... WHERE ARE THEY on this thread? You raised them as this brigade of shills. So why aren't they on this thread? As I said - I know I'm not one and hell's bells, I only just popped in the other day.

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Why does Bill Gates control world health & has predicted everything that is happening?

 

A pandemic was as inevitable as Christmas. Obama spoke about one years ago. There are models for every eventuality for operational response planning.....not so much with this though. Gates is the major contributor to WHO, so he must get a say in running it I suppose. The problem is the Dr. Evil angle and that is a complete other conspiracy.

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

You quarantine the sick & vulnerable, you dont restrict the movement of healthy. That is tyranny & is precisely what has destroyed the economy. Only a complete retard could not see this from day one.

 

I think that sounds a fairly reasonable course of action. So where do you quarantine them? A hospital?

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

SO fucking what? It was empty. That was his point. He was exposing FASCIST TYRANTS hes a fucking hero.

 

No it was not! The area generally open to the public - A&E  - was closed, not the bloody hospital! And this nutter went into a QUARANTINED area.

 

You just suggested it and he breached the quarantine guidelines issued for protection against catching and re-transmission of an official pandemic virus.....regardless of your conspiracy conclusions!

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Only a filthy tyrant apologist would support sending him to prison.🤢

 

And only a careless reader would have failed to notice me disagreeing with his prison sentence and saying he should have been fined. You though.....give him a pat on the back for his sterling work breaching a quarantined hospital!

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

As ive explained already to you, they did fake them & are still faking them with fraudulent death certificates & tests.

I posted a video with Vallance in a press conference admitting this. You are the one dodging the points here.

 

And once again you DELIBERATELY avoid the point I am making!!

 

If they are faking these stats, why the bloody hell don't they make them better and why the hell did he come clean about things that cause all this uproar!

 

Basically you are claiming all this subterfuge but the people doing it are too incompetent to back up their actions - that's bollocks.

 

3 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

This isnt the Comedytime septic show...start a thread on anything you have an issue with ive stated.

 It isn't the oddsnsods free to post anything he wants unchallenged thread either. Last time I checked this was a debate forum and I am taking your position to task, based on your dismissal of conflicting data. 

 

Surely this gives you a chance to show that is not the case - you've failed to so far but nobody on your side cares. IT's also a massive point to inquire why nobody is taking any other post to task regardless of it source and content. My remark was accurate about this leaving the impression "there is this whole thread of data and info" and it all must be right. 

 

My position if  you give a rat's arse(or not!) - At this moment I think the effect of the virus has thus far been horribly overstated, but the virus itself is certainly very real and has the potential to still kill quite a significant number of people over and above the norm.

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3 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

Here is the full length of video from WDA:

 

 

 

a local politican and ex-GP quit her seat because the views of her party were different to hers. she was anti-mask and questioned how the statistics are recorded.

fair play to her.

 

https://www.derrydaily.net/2020/10/17/derry-aontu-councillor-anne-mccloskey-to-quit-seat-over-coronavirus-views/

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Here we go.

 

Digital 'health passport' trials under way to aid reopening of borders

CommonPass aims to create common standard proving a traveller is Covid-free or vaccinated

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/17/digital-health-passport-trials-commonpass-travel-covid-19

A new digital “health passport” is to be piloted by a small number of passengers flying from the UK to the US for the first time next week under plans for a global framework for Covid-safe air travel.

The CommonPass system, backed by the World Economic Forum (WEF), is designed to create a common international standard for passengers to demonstrate they do not have coronavirus.

However, critics of similar schemes point to concerns over the sensitivity and specificity of the tests in various countries amid fears over greater monitoring over people’s movements.

Paul Meyer, the CEO at the Commons Project, which was given startup funding by the Rockefeller Foundation two years ago and created the digital health pass, said countries that have closed borders and imposed quarantines are looking for ways to “thoughtfully reopen” their borders.

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Downtown Brighton this afternoon ... almost no masks, everyone snogging and mucking about as usual, candy floss and illuminations on the peer, traffic jams and people crossing the road. 98.2% mask free.

Nobody gives a shit.

 

 

@Comedy Time  Yeah it might be worse than seasonal flu, but some years are bad and a lot of people die, go check the records.  And when I checked what I found was that if you compare 2020 with previous years in the UK, from 1950-2000 the death rate was much higher than it is these days and much higher than it will be in 2020, by roughly 120,000 more deaths per year.  Every year.

After 2000 the UK death rate dropped down a bit, but it's not along ago.

So even if 100,000 people die more people die this year of CV, that would still be less than the deaths every year from 1950-2000.

So in conclusion, it is just a bad year.  Better in fact to classify it as a 1-in-30 year event.  That is the best kind of measure.

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This graph, taken from the main DI site today, is interesting. It compares the ONS death rates average for previous years (in blue) against 2020 (in red).

 

What seems apparent to me is that the 2020 spike in deaths in March / April (deliberately forced by the government IMO to present an image of a pandemic), then corrects itself by the massive dip in April / May that follows. It suggests that deaths were hastened in people who were otherwise seriously ill and would probably still have died within the weeks and months that followed. Otherwise the pattern is entirely normal and the effect of the "virus" on death rates overall, spread across the year, has been minimal.

 

https://davidicke.com/2020/10/17/office-of-national-statistics-ons-uk-death-figures-average-for-previous-years-in-blue-against-2020-in-red-so-wheres-the-crisis/

 

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