Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Sorry if this is here already, hard to keep up... The Smoking Gun: Where is the coronavirus? The CDC says it isn’t available. by Jon Rappoport by Jon Rappoport October 8, 2020 The CDC document is titled, “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel.” It is dated July 13, 2020. Buried deep in the document, on page 39, in a section titled, “Performance Characteristics,” we have this: “Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays [diagnostic tests] designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA…” The key phrase there is: “Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available…” Every object that exists can be quantified, which is to say, measured. The use of the term “quantified” in that phrase means: the CDC has no measurable amount of the virus, because it is unavailable. THE CDC HAS NO VIRUS. A further tip-off is the use of the word ‘isolates.” This means NO ISOLATED VIRUS IS AVAILABLE. Another way to put it: NO ONE HAS AN ISOLATED SPECIMEN OF THE COVID-19 VIRUS. NO ONE HAS ISOLATED THE COVID-19 VIRUS. THEREFORE, NO ONE HAS PROVED THAT IT EXISTS. As if this were not enough of a revelation to shock the world, the CDC goes on to say they are presenting a diagnostic PCR test to detect the virus-that-hasn’t-been-isolated…and the test is looking for RNA which is PRESUMED to come from the virus that hasn’t been proved to exist. And using this test, the CDC and every other public health agency in the world are counting COVID cases and deaths…and governments have instituted lockdowns and economic devastation using those case and death numbers as justification. If people believe “you have the virus but it is not available,” and you have the virus except it is buried within other material and hasn’t been extracted and purified and isolated, these people believe the moon is made of green cheese. This is like saying. “We have the 20 trillion dollars, they are contained somewhere in our myriad accounts, we just don’t know where.” If you don’t know where, you don’t know you have the money. “The car keys are somewhere in the house. We just don’t where.” Really? If you don’t know where, you don’t know the keys are in the house. “The missing cruise missile is somewhere in the arsenal, we just don’t where.” No. If you don’t know where, you don’t know the missile is in the arsenal. “The COVID-19 virus is somewhere in the material we have—we just haven’t removed it from that material. But we know what it is and we’ve identified it and we know its structure.” NO YOU DON’T. YOU ASSUME THAT. Science is not assumptions. “But…but…there is a study which says a few researchers in a lab isolated the virus…” They say they did. But in July, the CDC is saying no virus is available. I guess that means trucks were not available to bring the virus from that lab to the CDC. The trucks were out of gas. It was raining. The bridge was washed out. The trucks were in the shop. Joe, the driver, couldn’t find his mask, and he didn’t want to leave home without it… Science is not assumptions. The pandemic is a fraud, down to the root of the poisonous tree. https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/10/08/the-smoking-gun-where-is-the-coronavirus-the-cdc-says-it-isnt-available/?fbclid=IwAR0RjJw1L-pGFAXbVN40JgFcqOh206yPm3CL6OJ0rbbaIFrlACLmV3ncYoQ CDC Document; https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingwang Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 1:43 PM, Comedy Time said: No, nice try though. https://www.virology.ws/2010/01/22/kochs-postulates-in-the-21st-century/ Not really. You have pseudo isolation and then there's real isolation. Take your pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakwise Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Normal as in bend over for any tyrant sad excuse for a human. That is scandalous propaganda. Psychological abuse. Only the dim-witted, the servile, the slave-thinkers could ever being meaningfully influenced by such crude manipulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidlittle Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Normal as in bend over for any tyrant sad excuse for a human. any ideas where this is ? I see palm trees so I’m guessing it’s not Liverpool .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Ian brown has deleted his COVID tweets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Jack said: Ian brown has deleted his COVID tweets why do you think Ian did it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Golden Retriever said: Let's just recap. If only the downright rotten and complicit MSM reported the following. The medical establishment too. The Prime Minister Boris Johnson and the Foreign Secretary Demonic Raab both publicly said last month, the PCR tests are only 7% accurate. The tests are meaningless and therefore the number of cases. do you hear the spin though, damage control both infer that 93% of infected are not identified with the test this is the mentality of the Vaccine Scientologists so 1,000 cases equates in the Cabinet office to 14,000 infected . get it? they are considering 13,000 infected walking around not identified 50,000 cases a day equates 714,000 cases AT LARGE free walking about lunatics i would suggest though in fairness that last February i reckon ishly there were at least 20,000,0000 cases of coronavirus in the UK... and i reckon 1/3 of the population have a cold or similar on a yearly basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: There are several different estimates on mortality rates. And you chose the inaccurate Facebook one. From your link, which is from the "evil" WHO... "The WHO believe Covid-19 kills 0.6 per cent of all patients or one in every 167. Although it sounds minimal, it means Covid-19 is six times deadlier than the flu and almost as twice as fatal as polio." If the methodology by which you dismiss counter evidence is "because it's from the mainstream" - then your method is just a little bit flawed. 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Why does Google show fact checker sites when doing any search that may contradict the offical narrative? Why does Google have the authority to decide what is & what isnt truth? When most of these fact checker sites are financed by the very people who the claims are aimed against. Take it up with Google. I imagine they don't hold the same sites as you do in high esteem. I don't agree with their policy. 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Its a wizard of Oz senario.. how else can you expose the psyop or break the spell, that everyone is under? Then don't label me as "infected" when I do the same. If you think I watch it and lap it up then you are mistaken. 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Its trauma based mindcontrol to keep you in a state of fight or flight. I suppose there is an element of truth to that in general terms, but since the matter is deemed as "nothing to worry about" that is not valid here. 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Thats all the news is 24/7 so you will easily summit to any demands. Yes, I can agree in theory with that. The news generally will dictate the reaction from the public at large. 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Read between the lines, coz everything is censored yes thats a fact. I don't have a problem with reading between the lines or that some things are censored or shutdown. You weren't reading at all simply because it comes from the MSM. So effectively you only cherry pick things FROM the MSM that support your case and ignore things that don't. Please don't insult "anyone's" intelligence by saying that is not the case. 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Im not going to take anything CNN puts out as legit as they put out countless amounts of proven bullshit. I gave you examples. Ive seen cases of nurses that have been debunked on this thread or the previous pre hack thread as actors or links to government. So excuse me if I cant be bothered to drag it all up again I've just spent a couple of hours searching this thread and there are examples of empty wards etc. But again you are cherry picking things that agree with you and labelling fake those that do not. 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Snopes wanky fact check doesnt debunk nothing neither does your BBC fake news paedo apologist news corp. She could be real but doesnt mean shes not acting or shedding crocodile tears you simpleton. Righto, so Snopes is all wrong and so is the BBC because of "reasons". She could be real huh and I am a "simpleton" for not realising she could be acting. But you aren't one for not realising that all your examples could be from people selling books and lying to get attention? https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/books/Undercover-Epicenter-Nurse/Erin-Marie-Olszewski/9781510763678 Cherry picking again. 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: You automatically take their words as truth because the fear mongering lying horror show media tells you its true. And YOU automatically take all the opposite as truth because you are a conspiracy theorist. I don't automatically take anything as truth, I assimilate data and form a logical opinion that fits what the data tells me. I modify that opinion as the data may or may not change. You should try that. 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Your bullshit is tiring & cluttering up the thread. My "bullshit" is observational contradictions to what is being presented. None of you people are questioning a single thing being shown. What you are doing is lapping it all up into a "coronavirus" memory store then when quizzed about it, it becomes a huge thing because of "all" that evidence presented. I actually don't want to limit this thread at all, or disrupt it, but really!! WHY aren't any of you truth seekers questioning things being presented by your own side? Example... Empty hospital beds/ full beds and sobbing nurses. Former stored, latter is fake 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Go read about Brigade77 Which bit, the official one or the conspiracy "read between the lines" one? I asked where they are on this thread! 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: No dodge, Barack Obama doesnt control world Health. Again you haven't listened to any interview with BG or know anything about the topic. It is a complete dodge. You quote an advisory script from the government employed buffoons but failed to answer this.... I dare you to imagine just for a second that there IS a nasty disease out there and the public aren't taking it seriously. What would YOU do? 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: No dodge gimpy. This isnt meant to be North Korea. Yes it was, insult noted yet again. Regardless of the agreed draconian result. He didn't photograph what you said he did!! He actually photographed the sealed off section of A&E that was closed. 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: They did & they are still doing it. Theres tons of evidence also, thats been provided non stop for months now. You are insulting everyones intelligence. I cannot actually believe how you can so badly miss the point I am making! You claim the figures show x,y,z (cherry picking again of course). I said why don't they fake them, you know the ones that YOU think are incriminating. It would be a piece of cake for them to do so. You aren't the spokesperson for "everyones intelligence" sic. 16 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Start a thread for any questions you have with me on this topic coz you clutter the thread with discussion, most are well past. No, I am highlighting inconsistencies with your approach, relevant to the topic. Don't flatter yourself concerning me "asking you questions", many are asked to show how your method is biased. Edited October 17, 2020 by Comedy Time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitochondrial Eve Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 This is from the Daily Mail apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 8 hours ago, wingwang said: Not really. You have pseudo isolation and then there's real isolation. Take your pick. False dichotomy. Koch's postulates are not gospel. Despite the importance of Koch’s postulates in the development of microbiology, they have severe limitations, which even Koch realized. For example, he believed that cholera and leprosy were caused by microbes, but could not fulfill all four postulates. Furthermore, Koch knew that the putative agent of cholera, Vibrio cholerae, could be isolated from both sick and healthy people, invalidating postulate #2. Many viruses do not cause illness in all infected individuals, a requirement of postulate #1. An example is poliovirus, which causes paralytic disease in about 1% of those infected. Further compromising postulate #1 is the fact that infection with the same virus may lead to markedly different diseases, while different viruses may cause the same disease. Postulates #2 and #3 cannot be fulfilled for viruses that do not replicate in cell culture, or for which a suitable animal model has not been identified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbiebrbr Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 50 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: And you chose the inaccurate Facebook one. From your link, which is from the "evil" WHO... "The WHO believe Covid-19 kills 0.6 per cent of all patients or one in every 167. Although it sounds minimal, it means Covid-19 is six times deadlier than the flu and almost as twice as fatal as polio." If the methodology by which you dismiss counter evidence is "because it's from the mainstream" - then your method is just a little bit flawed. Take it up with Google. I imagine they don't hold the same sites as you do in high esteem. I don't agree with their policy. Then don't label me as "infected" when I do the same. If you think I watch it and lap it up then you are mistaken. I suppose there is an element of truth to that in general terms, but since the matter is deemed as "nothing to worry about" that is not valid here. Yes, I can agree in theory with that. The news generally will dictate the reaction from the public at large. I don't have a problem with reading between the lines or that some things are censored or shutdown. You weren't reading at all simply because it comes from the MSM. So effectively you only cherry pick things FROM the MSM that support your case and ignore things that don't. Please don't insult "anyone's" intelligence by saying that is not the case. I've just spent a couple of hours searching this thread and there are examples of empty wards etc. But again you are cherry picking things that agree with you and labelling fake those that do not. Righto, so Snopes is all wrong and so is the BBC because of "reasons". She could be real huh and I am a "simpleton" for not realising she could be acting. But you aren't one for not realising that all your examples could be from people selling books and lying to get attention? https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/books/Undercover-Epicenter-Nurse/Erin-Marie-Olszewski/9781510763678 Cherry picking again. And YOU automatically take all the opposite as truth because you are a conspiracy theorist. I don't automatically take anything as truth, I assimilate data and form a logical opinion that fits what the data tells me. I modify that opinion as the data may or may not change. You should try that. My "bullshit" is observational contradictions to what is being presented. None of you people are questioning a single thing being shown. What you are doing is lapping it all up into a "coronavirus" memory store then when quizzed about it, it becomes a huge thing because of "all" that evidence presented. I actually don't want to limit this thread at all, or disrupt it, but really!! WHY aren't any of you truth seekers questioning things being presented by your own side? Example... Empty hospital beds/ full beds and sobbing nurses. Former stored, latter is fake Which bit, the official one or the conspiracy "read between the lines" one? I asked where they are on this thread! It is a complete dodge. You quote an advisory script from the government employed buffoons but failed to answer this.... I dare you to imagine just for a second that there IS a nasty disease out there and the public aren't taking it seriously. What would YOU do? Yes it was, insult noted yet again. Regardless of the agreed draconian result. He didn't photograph what you said he did!! He actually photographed the sealed off section of A&E that was closed. I cannot actually believe how you can so badly miss the point I am making! You claim the figures show x,y,z (cherry picking again of course). I said why don't they fake them, you know the ones that YOU think are incriminating. It would be a piece of cake for them to do so. You aren't the spokesperson for "everyones intelligence" sic. No, I am highlighting inconsistencies with your approach, relevant to the topic. Don't flatter yourself concerning me "asking you questions", many are asked to show how your method is biased. Keep defending the government. I'm sure defending the government is going to give a leg up on the tower of social credits once that's here in the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Newbiebrbr said: Keep defending the government. I'm sure defending the government is going to give a leg up on the tower of social credits once that's here in the UK. Wrong!! I am not defending the shitty government and your argument is like someone going nah nah na nah naaaah. I am pointing out discrepancies and poor methodology in these alternate claims. They aren't all wrong, far from it....try reading the flow of that exchange instead of knee jerk comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Comedy Time still arguing with himself I see... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 12 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Normal as in bend over for any tyrant sad excuse for a human. I'm in the camp of "the one who doesn't care about others" ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 WORLD DOCTORS ALLIANCE An independent non-profit alliance of doctors, nurses, healthcare professionals and staff around the world who have united in the wake of the Covid-19 response chapter to share experiences with a view to ending all lockdowns and related damaging measures and to re-establish universal health determinance of psychological and physical wellbeing for all humanity. https://worlddoctorsalliance.com 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, wideawake said: I'm in the camp of "the one who doesn't care about others" ... Same. Yes i am a granny slayer. These scumbags are reprehensible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Humungus Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 12 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Normal as in bend over for any tyrant sad excuse for a human. This is straight from the 3rd Reich/USSR playbook 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Fluke said: Same. Yes i am a granny slayer. These scumbags are reprehensible. Funny how they would say to people not wearing masks, don't you care about the old people, do you have no compassion. Mean while they are sending out non-resuscitation orders to old people and preventing old people from seeing their family and sending sick people back to old age homes to infect everyone in them. Another incomprehensible action they were also taking is drugging old people and sticking them on ventilators when they went in to the hospital with a mild chest infection and then preventing their family from seeing them. Edited October 17, 2020 by SimonTV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, SimonTV said: Comedy Time still arguing with himself I see... How very off topic and personal. You see nothing but the things you want to see. You dismiss everything that contradicts what you believe. There is middle ground here, an exaggerated epidemic is a good possibility. A fake one is just bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Fluke said: Same. Yes i am a granny slayer. These scumbags are reprehensible. If anyone thinks I'm putting them in danger, well obviously they are not wearing their masks properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SimonTV Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Lockdowns have just one consequence, to make poor people an awful lot poorer CAROLE MALONE https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1348855/coronavirus-lockdown-uk-third-tier-rules-restrictions-government-carole-malone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Entire State of New Mexico Locked-Down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, SimonTV said: Funny how they would say to people not wearing masks, don't you care about the old people, do you have no compassion. Mean while they are sending out non-resuscitation orders to old people and preventing old people from seeing their family and sending sick people back to old age homes to infect everyone in them. Exactly it makes it all the more sinister. My elderly relative asked me yesterday does the restriction effect you? My response was i am not following the rules and i am not one of these people that sit in front of the news waiting for their next updates. Really starting to get hard not to get angry at them but i know the fear has gripped them. Its extremely frustrating but i have to just suck it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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