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41 minutes ago, Shy Talk said:

Boris metaphorically saying let them eat chips:

 

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19625768.boris-johnson-releases-bizarre-twitter-videos-buildbackbetter-campaign/

 

Until people clear the first hurdle and get it into their thick skulls that these characters don't give a crap about the plebs nothing will change.

I held court at work this morning, taking on two double-jabbed colleagues. I asked them if there is any reason to trust any government in the world. A very awkward silence followed and so I broke that by asking if they believed that our government has their best interests at heart. 

 

The silence continued. 

 

They KNOW that politicians serve those above them and don't care for the people. I know this because we've had these conversations pre Scamdemic and I've a near photographic memory for conversations with people. One, a muslim, appeared to be a truther concerning 911 - one of the first conversations I had with this man (I don't do small talk).

 

Something has changed in 2 years.

 

People who have a firm grip on world events, history, how the problem/reaction/solution method is employed time and again, lying media, lying politicians, divide and conquer, social brainwashing and conditioning - the bloody works - have all of a sudden placed their lives (and the lives of their kids) into the very hands of people they know hate them.

 

Both these men call the television the idiot box. 

 

So what happened? I can only arrive at the conclusion that they were terrified for the first time in their lives. People do some strange and alien (to their character) things when fear grips them.

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11 minutes ago, Saved said:

I held court at work this morning, taking on two double-jabbed colleagues. I asked them if there is any reason to trust any government in the world. A very awkward silence followed and so I broke that by asking if they believed that our government has their best interests at heart. 

 

The silence continued. 

 

They KNOW that politicians serve those above them and don't care for the people. I know this because we've had these conversations pre Scamdemic and I've a near photographic memory for conversations with people. One, a muslim, appeared to be a truther concerning 911 - one of the first conversations I had with this man (I don't do small talk).

 

Something has changed in 2 years.

 

People who have a firm grip on world events, history, how the problem/reaction/solution method is employed time and again, lying media, lying politicians, divide and conquer, social brainwashing and conditioning - the bloody works - have all of a sudden placed their lives (and the lives of their kids) into the very hands of people they know hate them.

 

Both these men call the television the idiot box. 

 

So what happened? I can only arrive at the conclusion that they were terrified for the first time in their lives. People do some strange and alien (to their character) things when fear grips them.

Like you said, fear plain and simple. 

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People are too far gone.

 

Doesn’t matter how many stats and studies you show them, they just move on and disregard them.

 

I have a colleague who insists the vaccine stops transmission. She’s also ‘terrified’ by the high amount of cases.

 

At no point has she stopped to ask how cases can be so high if the jab stops transmission.

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33 minutes ago, Saved said:

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So what happened? 

 

They, along with the vast majority of humanity (maybe 80%) have been hypnotized.


The other side of that coin though, is the fact that millions who would never have paid any interest in political matters before have now became awake to the notion that they have been played like a fiddle for their entire lives.

 

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23 minutes ago, ar55 said:

People are too far gone.

 

Doesn’t matter how many stats and studies you show them, they just move on and disregard them.

 

I have a colleague who insists the vaccine stops transmission. She’s also ‘terrified’ by the high amount of cases.

 

At no point has she stopped to ask how cases can be so high if the jab stops transmission.

In the olden days wasn't it around 65% to achieve group immunity?

 

The Vax figures suggest that's the %

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1 hour ago, Shy Talk said:

Boris metaphorically saying let them eat chips:

 

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19625768.boris-johnson-releases-bizarre-twitter-videos-buildbackbetter-campaign/

 

Until people clear the first hurdle and get it into their thick skulls that these characters don't give a crap about the plebs nothing will change.

Why does bojo hate the Scottish people at the moment? He did say a few things that are pretty sinister

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4 minutes ago, Roscommon said:

 

They, along with the vast majority of humanity (maybe 80%) have been hypnotized.


The other side of that coin though, is the fact that millions who would never have paid any interest in political matters before have now became awake to the notion that they have been played like a fiddle for their entire lives.

 

It's too late ,there is no grabbing for flotsam floating past,they have made their 'adult' decisions' fuckem

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45 minutes ago, Saved said:

I held court at work this morning, taking on two double-jabbed colleagues. I asked them if there is any reason to trust any government in the world. A very awkward silence followed and so I broke that by asking if they believed that our government has their best interests at heart. 

 

The silence continued. 

 

They KNOW that politicians serve those above them and don't care for the people. I know this because we've had these conversations pre Scamdemic and I've a near photographic memory for conversations with people. One, a muslim, appeared to be a truther concerning 911 - one of the first conversations I had with this man (I don't do small talk).

 

Something has changed in 2 years.

 

People who have a firm grip on world events, history, how the problem/reaction/solution method is employed time and again, lying media, lying politicians, divide and conquer, social brainwashing and conditioning - the bloody works - have all of a sudden placed their lives (and the lives of their kids) into the very hands of people they know hate them.

 

Both these men call the television the idiot box. 

 

So what happened? I can only arrive at the conclusion that they were terrified for the first time in their lives. People do some strange and alien (to their character) things when fear grips them.

Theres a Belgian fella who did the blue print for this mass fear and control regarding the swine flu....I've seen him laughing about it as he teaches people on how to make fake pandemics scare the masses....

 

Somebody on here will know what I'm talking about

 

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Post-Vax America' August sees more all-cause death and more covid death than previous years. Very crude figures to work with but lets make a very crude analysis.

 

Annual rise in population is 3K per year, August 2020 should have been 230,000 but there was 277,000

 

An extra 47,000 people were eliminated: 30,000 attributed to covid through medical murder and falsifying hospital reports and 17,000 most likely died at home (ongoing effects of lockdowns same pattern seen in UK) so didn't enter the system to be tagged covid.

 

3K annual increase, August 2021 should have seen 233,000 but there's been 280,000.

 

But we're only seeing an extra 2,000 at-home deaths (no lockdowns) and the whole other 45,000 due to the vaccines - in just the one month.

 

Extrapolate 45,000 out over 9 months since rollout beginning of Dec = 405,000 - take into account the mass elderly cull in Dec & Jan - 450-500,000+??? to the vaccine alone....

 

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It's really anybody's guess at this stage... one wonders what 2021s data will show next year. Given the 2020 figures were in line with trending averages for the past decade - no pandemic - despite the peaks of culling of the elderly - I bet they will do something to completely fudge 2021 raw data because there will be such a horrific spike it will make the vaccine saviour narrative crumble? Or not? Will it add to the new-variant-more-shots-required talking point? Will they just not care because they think so many are so dumb and don't factor these bigger pictures? 

 

All we can know/think/say with certainty is that once the real-world data from on the ground about the astronomical amounts of young ones <40  <25,  <18 dropping dead starts to circulate more and more in peoples private day to day discourse and the gossip becomes too loud to drown out with mindless fear porn and 'anti-vaxer' (replaced Granny-killer) tropes and the anger thats been brewing for almost 2 whole years can no longer be contained - add to that economic depravation and ruin and then starvation and panic - that's when there's going to be pitchforks on the streets and it's going to get real nasty so fucking nasty I don't think we can actually imagine it.... everywhere.. because it will create a energetic conscendo of frequency which will travel psychicly and simultaneously around the planet without technology -  they're already preparing with robo-dogs and drones and Chinese?/Commie stormtroopers who care nothing for life (see Melbourne) and the internet/communication/banking shut downs... 😬

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4 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Post-Vax America' August sees more all-cause death and more covid death than previous years. Very crude figures to work with but lets make a very crude analysis.

 

Annual rise in population is 3K per year, August 2020 should have been 230,000 but there was 277,000

 

An extra 47,000 people were eliminated: 30,000 attributed to covid through medical murder and falsifying hospital reports and 17,000 most likely died at home (ongoing effects of lockdowns same pattern seen in UK) so didn't enter the system to be tagged covid.

 

3K annual increase, August 2021 should have seen 233,000 but there's been 280,000.

 

But we're only seeing an extra 2,000 at-home deaths (no lockdowns) and the whole other 45,000 due to the vaccines - in just the one month.

 

Extrapolate 45,000 out over 9 months since rollout beginning of Dec = 405,000 - take into account the mass elderly cull in Dec & Jan - 450-500,000+??? to the vaccine alone....

 

Image

It's really anybody's guess at this stage... one wonders what 2021s data will show next year. Given the 2020 figures were in line with trending averages for the past decade - no pandemic - despite the peaks of culling of the elderly - I bet they will do something to completely fudge 2021 raw data because there will be such a horrific spike it will make the vaccine saviour narrative crumble? Or not? Will it add to the new-variant-more-shots-required talking point? Will they just not care because they think so many are so dumb and don't factor these bigger pictures? 

 

All we can know/think/say with certainty is that once the real-world data from on the ground about the astronomical amounts of young ones <40  <25,  <18 dropping dead starts to circulate more and more in peoples private day to day discourse and the gossip becomes too loud to drown out with mindless fear porn and 'anti-vaxer' (replaced Granny-killer) tropes and the anger thats been brewing for almost 2 whole years can no longer be contained - add to that economic depravation and ruin and then starvation and panic - that's when there's going to be pitchforks on the streets and it's going to get real nasty so fucking nasty I don't think we can actually imagine it.... everywhere.. because it will create a energetic conscendo of frequency which will travel psychicly and simultaneously around the planet without technology -  they're already preparing with robo-dogs and drones and Chinese?/Commie stormtroopers who care nothing for life (see Melbourne) and the internet/communication/banking shut downs... 😬?

And? now what? more figures more numbers fuck all seems to be halting this 'things' progression no  matter how you intrpret the figures

 

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me its raining

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4 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said:

And? now what? more figures more numbers fuck all seems to be halting this 'things' progression no  matter how you intrpret the figures

I like numbers and analytics.... I enjoy working with them and since I don't work with them daily anymore I get carried away sometimes.  I would say sorry, but I won't because.....😒

 

5 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said:

Don't piss in my pocket and tell me its raining

That saying implies I'm trying to deceive you. I'm not.😑

 

 I understand you're frustrated - as am I - but there's no need to snap at me.🖕🙃✌️

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24 minutes ago, zArk said:

In the olden days wasn't it around 65% to achieve group immunity?

 

The Vax figures suggest that's the %

First person to notice ‘herd immunity’ was Arthur Hedrich in 1930s, noticing that after about 68% of kids had measles, it petered out. All of them were unvaccinated. They only say we need 95% coverage for herd immunity cuz it means can make more money than if they claimed 70% or so. They have near 100% coverage in china for measles, and still get ‘outbreaks’ every so often

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14 minutes ago, Shake said:

Why does bojo hate the Scottish people at the moment? He did say a few things that are pretty sinister

 

Not to derail the thread but he's just a populist gobshite. What really bothers me is staunch Scottish/irish Republicans who pre-covid wouldn't have believed a word that came out of a Tory's mouth are kowtowing to everything they say regarding covid. Beggars belief.

 

Here's an article regarding Boris and Scotland:

 

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19046234.boris-johnson-scotland-six-quotes-prime-minister-like-forgotten/

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35 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Post-Vax America' August sees more all-cause death and more covid death than previous years. Very crude figures to work with but lets make a very crude analysis.

 

Annual rise in population is 3K per year, August 2020 should have been 230,000 but there was 277,000

 

An extra 47,000 people were eliminated: 30,000 attributed to covid through medical murder and falsifying hospital reports and 17,000 most likely died at home (ongoing effects of lockdowns same pattern seen in UK) so didn't enter the system to be tagged covid.

 

3K annual increase, August 2021 should have seen 233,000 but there's been 280,000.

 

But we're only seeing an extra 2,000 at-home deaths (no lockdowns) and the whole other 45,000 due to the vaccines - in just the one month.

 

Extrapolate 45,000 out over 9 months since rollout beginning of Dec = 405,000 - take into account the mass elderly cull in Dec & Jan - 450-500,000+??? to the vaccine alone....

 

Image

It's really anybody's guess at this stage... one wonders what 2021s data will show next year. Given the 2020 figures were in line with trending averages for the past decade - no pandemic - despite the peaks of culling of the elderly - I bet they will do something to completely fudge 2021 raw data because there will be such a horrific spike it will make the vaccine saviour narrative crumble? Or not? Will it add to the new-variant-more-shots-required talking point? Will they just not care because they think so many are so dumb and don't factor these bigger pictures? 

 

All we can know/think/say with certainty is that once the real-world data from on the ground about the astronomical amounts of young ones <40  <25,  <18 dropping dead starts to circulate more and more in peoples private day to day discourse and the gossip becomes too loud to drown out with mindless fear porn and 'anti-vaxer' (replaced Granny-killer) tropes and the anger thats been brewing for almost 2 whole years can no longer be contained - add to that economic depravation and ruin and then starvation and panic - that's when there's going to be pitchforks on the streets and it's going to get real nasty so fucking nasty I don't think we can actually imagine it.... everywhere.. because it will create a energetic conscendo of frequency which will travel psychicly and simultaneously around the planet without technology -  they're already preparing with robo-dogs and drones and Chinese?/Commie stormtroopers who care nothing for life (see Melbourne) and the internet/communication/banking shut downs... 😬

Will they just not care because they think so many are so dumb and don't factor these bigger pictures

There is answer in this question... I have no doubts.

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1 hour ago, Dazzer said:

Like you said, fear plain and simple. 

Furthermore, that fear will have changed targets. They were terrified of Covid and are now terrified that the jab might well damage them to the point of death. I saw their initial confidence drain out of them with every word I spoke.

 

They did not know that they are part of an experiment. I had to to them that the FDA only gave emergency clearance; that they might even be a part of the control group. I had to tell them about gene therapy. I told them, briefly, of the terrible records of corruption and lies practiced and told by J&J, Pfizer. 

 

The only way they can deal with their new fear - the jab - is to DENY. A part of their strategy is to agree to the lies being told, to believe that the fact checkers are telling the truth, to love the words 'extremely rare' and to go against every instinct they had concerning politicians and the media.

 

All the jab has done is increase their fear. They know that it doesn't prevent them from 'infection' and they can't even virtue signal how they are doing it for others - they can 'infect' others.

 

The fear they have now will go through the roof, to the point of their hearts failing them, if the jabbed really do drop dead this winter in huge numbers.

 

Oh, they also 'forgot' that these companies, for the first time in history, will not have to pay any compensation for any injuries or deaths.

 

I didn't start any of it. One of them called me an anti-vaxer (I only said good morning and nothing else) and the other jumped on it.

 

Pair of cowards.

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1 hour ago, Saved said:

I held court at work this morning, taking on two double-jabbed colleagues. I asked them if there is any reason to trust any government in the world. A very awkward silence followed and so I broke that by asking if they believed that our government has their best interests at heart. 

 

The silence continued. 

 

They KNOW that politicians serve those above them and don't care for the people. I know this because we've had these conversations pre Scamdemic and I've a near photographic memory for conversations with people. One, a muslim, appeared to be a truther concerning 911 - one of the first conversations I had with this man (I don't do small talk).

 

Something has changed in 2 years.

 

People who have a firm grip on world events, history, how the problem/reaction/solution method is employed time and again, lying media, lying politicians, divide and conquer, social brainwashing and conditioning - the bloody works - have all of a sudden placed their lives (and the lives of their kids) into the very hands of people they know hate them.

 

Both these men call the television the idiot box. 

 

So what happened? I can only arrive at the conclusion that they were terrified for the first time in their lives. People do some strange and alien (to their character) things when fear grips them.

This is spot on, people who were previously known to you (and me) as open minded, and even if they believed in the political system traditionally and hated the tories and everything they stood for, now parrot and repeat what these same group of politicians are promoting, predominantly via the media. Its like a switch has been flicked, its completely bizarre and like they have complete amnesia in relation to any of their (rightly or wrongly) held views pre-covid. 

 

Which then filters out who you want to call a friend, spend time with, or even converse with at the moment. 

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3 hours ago, Shy Talk said:

Any sane member of that family should be shouting from the rooftops about the dangers of the jab.

 

yes they should

 

are they just so brainwashed that they believe that 'yes sometimes vaccines harm people but on balance they are a good thing' and therefore no one should ever criticise or question them?

 

Or are they just so afraid in the politically correct CLIMATE OF FEAR that has been created by the fake left and the corporate media?

 

Or are they bribed by the government as someone had said to the tune of £150,000 to anyone who has a relative die from the jabs but only as long as they keep their mouths shut ie HUSH MONEY?

 

Personally i don't see any of those as valid reasons to keep quiet

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12 hours ago, whatthefoxhat said:

OK im going full right wing fascist here

How many of these gp's are not native born anglo saxon british ?

How much do they get for seeing patients face to face and how much do they receive by offering a cursory phone service ? (hint a phone service is vastly more profitable than a f2f service)

How much do they receive from pharmacos per year ? (this btw should be a legal requirement for them to disclose)

Covid has made some of them extremely rich

That money in many cases hasn't stayed in the UK

Whilst you may have a general validish point mate. I will add that my genetic makeup is exactly the same as the so called GPs that we mention, and im as British as they come. So that kind of makes your point moot bud. Ive getting out of the very lucrative healthcare game as it wasnt good for my soul.

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11 hours ago, Mikheil said:

Most of them are Indian and Pakistani's. They HATE the British with a passion. Not without good reason after what we did in their countries. You think they feel sorry for the despoilers dying off?

 

Im of Pakistani decent. 2nd/3rd gen. I dont hate the British. How can I? Am one and my kids are too. So lets not try and generalise please. That is what the cants want. Divide and distract.

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54 minutes ago, Shy Talk said:

Not to derail the thread but he's just a populist gobshite.

 

boris is not a populist he is a globalist

 

54 minutes ago, Shy Talk said:

What really bothers me is staunch Scottish/irish Republicans who pre-covid wouldn't have believed a word that came out of a Tory's mouth are kowtowing to everything they say regarding covid.

 

The scottish nationalist party is not a nationalist party they are a woke globalist party who want scotland to split off from the UK so that it can be absorbed into a european superstate which would see the end of scotland as a nation

 

nothing is as it claims to be at the moment.....they are all wearing masks....metaphorically speaking

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4 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

Whilst you may have a general validish point mate. I will add that my genetic makeup is exactly the same as the so called GPs that we mention, and im as British as they come. So that kind of makes your point moot bud. Ive getting out of the very lucrative healthcare game as it wasnt good for my soul.

 

don't take that kind of chat personally as paranoia is through the roof

 

a persons skin colour does not determine whether or not they are pro- or anti-britain but what is making people hyper wary at the moment is that the political party in power at the moment is supposed to be a 'conservative' party and yet it is behaving like a globalist party that is looking to destroy the british economy and nation and people have watched that party drag its heels over brexit so trust is pretty low right now

 

And the thing that won't help is that the tories are the most diverse government we have ever had so it looks bad that the most diverse party that we have ever had is the one that is trying to choke off our nation

 

This causes people to start asking questions

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10 hours ago, whatthefoxhat said:

I absolutely adore this piece of art (even have photos of me standning on its feet freezing my bollocks off whilst wearing a kilt !! )

Now given the rash of cheap laser projectors could someone with some tech smarts give me a baseline figure of what it would cost to project some pertinent message across the angels wings,has to be non mains powered for obvious reasons

With the nights drawing in and the clocks soon to be put back to 1984 i think its a lovley idea to entertain the drivers  going norf n sarf

 

Angel of the North, Gateshead, Tyne and Wear - Beautiful ...

Thats my neck of woods mate. Im no good with tech. But if you need local back up. Im there with my bredrin.

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1 hour ago, Seeker said:

They have near 100% coverage in china for measles, and still get ‘outbreaks’ every so often

 

according to the WHO the vaccines funded by bill gates have actually created new strains of polio

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