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I've already posted about this in the 'Come Together by Region?' thread in the Solutions forum.   But now here is the advert for the big event on the 29th August. It would be great if as ma

I started a new job not so long ago and quit after three weeks, I refused to wear a stupid mask all day at all, laughed at the managers and their covid terror.. I could see it wasn't going to end well

Summary meeting with MP.   Big sign on door saying have to wear a mask. Reptilian brain nearly kicked in and panicked - temptation to go to the store and buy one. Managed to keep it together

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10 minutes ago, Basket Case said:


@Comedy Time .....

 

The sheer irony of your post (not putting it up again) makes my brain hurt. Off topic, derailing and personal. I think I'm going to go off and cry. Numerous knock on posts all about poor old me.

 

10 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

This is not - " personal shit - deliberate baiting!!!!!!! "

 

That is a personal comment aimed at me. Nothing to do with this thread. It's also a tad private?

 

10 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

These are  FACTS...!!!!

 

And about me personally.

 

10 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

You have spent most of your time on these other threads.

 

I'm pretty sure the question of "where have I been" was rhetorical and your answer was not necessary and personal.

 

10 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

You have only recently shown interest in this thread.

 

Something to do with Lake bringing it up. I have been reading it daily. Some of it has been appalling misinformation. Much of it is speculation. Some of it is good and highlights how shit the system is.

 

I think my first post in this thread highlighted CLEAR fake news being posted. Not ONE PERSON questioned it. NOT ONE. 

 

THAT is what should be being done for all of these alternative stories, to verify authenticity. If experts are being questioned, then the people being questioned should also be questioned as to their relevant experience to do so.

 

NONE of it proves the virus is faked. Some of it strongly suggests it is not as bad as it is being touted. 

 

10 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

You need to catch up.

 

No I don't. I have  a TV and internet. I just don't have the same propensity towards believing everything I read about it from alternative websites. I believe the government are largely incompetent.

 

10 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

The stuff you're bringing up and using government and MSM articles to debate have been covered many times earlier in this very thread.

 

No, really it hasn't. Show me anyone on this thread who has taken any of the posts on this thread to task using "MSM". It is always a defence of conspiracy theorists to automatically dismiss the source if it is MSM, because it is MSM. I most certainly do not believe everything written from those sources far from it, but to take what is reported and mix it in with disinformation and speculation, whilst doing deductive reasoning that ignores the fundamental statements??

 

THAT needs questioning.

 

I just highlighted Nurses reporting all sorts of crap, THEN being gagged only to be told just above that they had been gagged from day one. So apparently none of them has said anything.

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Written Oct 2019 on WebMD but some parts are updated to 2020. 

 

"Previously, officials had said this year's flu season was on track to be one of the worst in decades".

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/flu-season-what-to-know-this-year

 

Obviously there isn't going to be written proof that the government is lying. It's their job to push a bigger agenda and if you can't see that then I recommend you go look at some shady shit governments have done in the past.

 

Here's a few:

Operation Northwoods

Operation Midnight Climax (funniest one by far)

MK Ultra

Project Artichoke

Operation Mockingbird

Iran-Contra

 

Just to name a few @Comedy Time. If it exists or not is irrelevant because we are have been sold horseshit by the pound for decades. Remember those people dying in the streets in Wuhan? Haven't seen a whiff of that just a few sniffles, just like any flu season. Why during lockdown were many hospitals just flat out empty? Refusing patients cancer treatments and mental health services for something that is no worse than a flu bug which was supposed to be bad this year anyway? Why the massive non-scientific, nonsensical push for laws which severely demolishes freedom, business, trade etc? Why were elderly people sent back to the care homes when they were clearly unwell? 

 

If you truly believe that any establishment cares about people's health then you are wrong. Why would they care about some minor illness if they sell booze, drugs and fags in the tonnes to millions of people over decades? 

 

Covid being real or not doesn't matter because that in itself is divide and conquer. What it's being used for however, should be your main concern. If it isn't then well, the Government are looking for people like you. Covid marshall would be the perfect job for you.

 

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18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

The nurses were silenced from day one, nothing to do with being overworked.

 

Very loud klaxon @oddsnsods

 

Err bullshit. They were also making loads of noise about not having the right equipment. I see you ignored my request for the post "I ignored" whilst ignoring the link with the NHS staff who died from the virus that doesn't exist.

 

18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

They were so overworked they were putting out tik tok videos every hour of the day.

 

If you say so. How many? 5/10/500/1000? What and tiktok deleted them? 

 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cristina-hops-nurse-tiktok-coronavirus-donald-trump-b914329.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/08/us/nurse-reacts-to-trump-downplaying-covid-trnd/index.html

 

https://www.wired.com/story/doctors-nurses-tiktok-fight-covid-myths/

 

Nurses and tiktok huh?

 

18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Nobody was allowed inside the hospitals & somebody actually got imprisoned for 14 weeks for filming an empty hospital & posting it on Fakebook.

 

 

Ok, not seen that one. Citation please.

 

18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

It doesnt surprise me Gareth Icke would take the word of Truegroup.

 

Fuck my old boots, it certainly surprised me!! He didn't want ME as a moderator.

 

18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Like he did with his mate MerlinCove on the last forum, who was banning anybody including myself for questioning the Westminster Bridge hoax.

 

If you say so.

 

18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Almost like Merlin was following orders.

 

Amazing stuff.

 

18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Coz he was pretty gistapo about what he was doing.

 

I liked him, even though he banned me once. 😇

 

18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

locking people in the rant room then antagonising them till they bite & banning them when he loses the debate.

 

Yes, amazing stuff. Now....about those Nurses not talking about coronavirus. Do you really not know anyone whom works at a hospital?? It was absolute chaos during the first wave.

 

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11 minutes ago, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

Just to name a few @Comedy Time. If it exists or not is irrelevant because we are have been sold horseshit by the pound for decades. Remember those people dying in the streets in Wuhan? Haven't seen a whiff of that just a few sniffles, just like any flu season. Why during lockdown were many hospitals just flat out empty? Refusing patients cancer treatments and mental health services for something that is no worse than a flu bug which was supposed to be bad this year anyway? Why the massive non-scientific, nonsensical push for laws which severely demolishes freedom, business, trade etc? Why were elderly people sent back to the care homes when they were clearly unwell? 

 

If you truly believe that any establishment cares about people's health then you are wrong. Why would they care about some minor illness if they sell booze, drugs and fags in the tonnes to millions of people over decades? 

 

Covid being real or not doesn't matter because that in itself is divide and conquer. What it's being used for however, should be your main concern. If it isn't then well, the Government are looking for people like you. Covid marshall would be the perfect job for you.

 

 

I don't dispute much shady shit done by governments but in this case it IS relevant whether sars-2 exists. Going after a virus for its inability to cause devastation is one thing( and I don't necessarily have an issue with that), but it is totally different to saying the whole thing is one big hoax or faaked. That is just plain daft.

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6 hours ago, Ecki Divad said:

 

The virus does exist.  In my view, the issue is the public reaction to it.  As for the taxonomy, you're telling me what I already know.  I've already posted above explaining the terminology.  Sorry but I have this thing about people telling me things I already know on the assumption I am ignorant.  It's rude, and it's also annoying.

Yeah, I'm rude and annoying. And you're on my ignore list

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27 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

Yes.

 

27 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

You are argumentative.

 

Sometimes. That is the nature of debate. I shut the hell up when someone convinces me I am wrong though.

 

27 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

Anyone that does that multi-quote replies like that will never get a reply from me. 

 

Ok. Well you take care then. Even though you just replied to me.:classic_rolleyes: 

 

p.s. that wasn't trolling by you at all was it.

 

Edit: OK, well that was fun for about 2 pages then it got all stroppy and foot stomping. Unless I get a reply that I absolutely HAVE to respond to.....I'll leave you all to it. Don't want to "troll" this thread by raising legitimate points do I!

 

 

 

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It's a complex issue. 

 

There are other explanations for why there may have been some hospitals busy during the so-called first wave.

 

The first wave caused a panic which inevitably caused a rush. People with ordinary flu-like symptoms (typical for that time of year) may have rushed to hospital out of fear. Not to mention the usual influx of pneumonia patients typical for that season.

 

Staff were told to expect Armageddon; so they were put under pressure. No test was really available (it wasn't practicable). So every suspected case was treated as though it was covid. This panic-stricken environment was a recipe for iatrogenesis. Many patients may have been given the wrong treatment (e.g. ventilation etc.) or mistakes were made. There was no time to think - just follow the top-down directives. 

 

So a rush of panicked patients combined with under-pressure hospital staff led to the appearance that there was indeed a plague, when in reality is was a self-fulfilling prophecy.  

 

I do know a highly experienced ITU nurse. She only had two suspected covid patients during the whole period (and those had severe comorbidities). 

 

It's easy to take things at face value. Unfortunately, the truth of the matter can be very complex. 

 

Worth thinking about. 

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3 hours ago, Comedy Time said:

 

Where did you get all that from? The virologists say they have isolated it, conspiracy theorists who are not virologists suggest lots of things but the bottom line is the claim must be that they are lying. Prove it.

 

 

You could have that as a daily test. But again Hanlon's razor.

 

 

No.

The claimants are the virologists & therefore they are required to submit the proof of isolation, purification, replication and most importantly pathogenicity. 

 

It is not outside the realm of reason in consideration of the scale and bredth of government imcompetancey to attribute it to malice.

A habitual thief and liar after being caught out multiple times cannot be said to be merely incompetant, but severely psychologically maladjusted.

Yet government commits attrocious faux pas on a continual basis and is not considered malicious or subject to some maladjustment - perhaps psychopathy !

 

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I remember back when we used to argue about 9/11 there was always some idiot that was on every single forum arguing the official narrative. It makes you wonder why someone would go out of there way to convince a bunch of crack pot conspiracy theorists that they were so wrong about everything. 

 

Of course but we are not wrong about everything, only just wrong about certain things to some certain extent and of course we never have any sources credible enough to convince them or ever enough evidence to convince them. They keep rehashing the same arguments over and over again with different people. 

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12 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

I remember back when we used to argue about 9/11 there was always some idiot that was on every single forum arguing the official narrative. It makes you wonder why someone would go out of there way to convince a bunch of crack pot conspiracy theorists that they were so wrong about everything. 

 

Of course but we are not wrong about everything, only just wrong about certain things to some certain extent and of course we never have any sources credible enough to convince them or ever enough evidence to convince them. They keep rehashing the same arguments over and over again with different people. 

In the former German Democratic Republic (East Germany) 1 in 4 Germans was a STASI asset.

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17 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

I remember back when we used to argue about 9/11 there was always some idiot that was on every single forum arguing the official narrative. It makes you wonder why someone would go out of there way to convince a bunch of crack pot conspiracy theorists that they were so wrong about everything. 

 

Of course but we are not wrong about everything, only just wrong about certain things to some certain extent and of course we never have any sources credible enough to convince them or ever enough evidence to convince them. They keep rehashing the same arguments over and over again with different people. 

 

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Err bullshit. They were also making loads of noise about not having the right equipment. I see you ignored my request for the post "I ignored" whilst ignoring the link with the NHS staff who died from the virus that doesn't exist.

 

 

The media were making noise you mean, in their 24 hour horror show for a virus that with a 98.54% survival rate for the majority.

The nightingale hospitals were empty..yet such a pandemic NOT.

 

 

They constantly lied about children dying, when NHS stats show no child without underlying health conditions died.

Then they bullshitted about Kawasaki disease causing Covid1984.

Now they bullshit about longCovid.

Nobody is allowed to question the offical narrative, not even thousands of doctors or they get deplatformed..

 

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If you say so. How many? 5/10/500/1000? What and tiktok deleted them? 

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You post a CNN crisis actor video as evidence.

 

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You sure love lapping up the Goebbellian props from the media...

 

https://evidencenotfear.com/how-sage-and-uk-media-created-fear-in-the-british-public/

 

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Ok, not seen that one. Citation please.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52142052

 

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Yes, amazing stuff. Now....about those Nurses not talking about coronavirus. Do you really not know anyone whom works at a hospital?? It was absolute chaos during the first wave.

 

No more than any other flu season.

Ive posted ONS stats before, you ignored..

I posted hospitals stats..you ignored..

Scroll back to the post you ignored.

You claim you never ignored.

 

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French Police now turning into the French Resistance and fighting the conspiratorial Government's scamdemic plan...

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8843089/Police-search-home-French-health-minister-former-PM-Covid-probe.html

 

The French Health Minister, Olivier Veran, has his home raided and could face 2 year sentence if guilt is determined, but PM, Macron, is immune from prosecution.

 

Vive la France!!!  🇫🇷 

 

We need the UK Police to do the same!

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One thing that has never been explained, as far as i am aware, is how major chain shops were permitted to stay open but certain other types of shops were forced to close. For example gyms and pubs and hairdressers were forced to close but the newsagents and the Tesco metro was allowed to stay open. How can they justify that? They might say that the person spends more time in those sorts of shops but that is not a valid point. As they closed shops that people would spend even less time in than a Tesco metro. People are known to spend hours in a large supermarket and there was never any restrictions on the length of time that people could stay in a large supermarket. They closed large hardware stores even though they are similar in size to large super markets on the basis that it was non essential. This whole non essential classification they invented out of thin air, they classify all of the government employees as essential and many of them as even higher than essential as keyworker status. Everyone's job is essential and can not be dismissed so quickly by government decree as worth sacrificing. 

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Moment police served Liverpool gym owner with £1,000 fine after he refused to bow to Covid closedown order

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8841079/Armed-police-serve-Liverpool-gym-owner-fine-REFUSES-bow-Covid-closedown-order.html

 

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UK GOV PETITION HAS OVER 200,000 IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/333869

 

 

 

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On 10/13/2020 at 5:00 PM, Bombadil said:

Just got off the phone with my doctors after waiting all day for a call back.my daughter has a recurring illness so I just wanted a bit of advice from the doctor. Got told by receptionist to call 111 for cv issues. Patiently explained nothing to do with that. She constantly drivelled on about I’m sure I can appreciate how busy they are whilst doing nothing to resolve the problem. Explained to her that I could not appreciate how busy she was, as she was at work being paid to do her job and that everybody is busy at work. My problem is that if they say my daughter needs a cv test I will not be able to take her to a and e for her real problem because I need to self isolate her.

scuse the rant it’s just f into crazy.

 

GPs are getting plenty of stick off the public atm and rightly so IMO. For being so inaccessible. Why do they think they are all high and mighty? Not wanting to come close to patients? When everyone else is?They are doing naff all apart from the odd phone consultation and over prescribing. I'm seeing so many patients in the pharmacy that need to be SEEN by a doctor. Only yesterday I had a elderly gentlemen close to tears because of unbearable lower abdominal pains. He was reluctant to get seen and didn't want to bother the busy doctors or hospital. 

 

I cant believe how so many people are being manipulated in thinking this virus is a real threat. So much so that some wont even go to A and E from suspected appendicitis.

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On 10/13/2020 at 9:02 PM, Messenger said:

Beaujangles, I provided a perspective that a lot of people refuse to acknowledge and that's that humanity are destroying Earth and this corona virus was a method for the NWO apparatus to slow that process while also gaining more control over us.

 

With all due respect. That's a load of bullshit. Please refrain from derailing this thread. We come to this site go get away from the fraudulent msm narrative. But it seems all you can do is to regurgitate their vomit inducing propaganda when you talk about this CC shite.

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https://uk.yahoo.com/news/sorry-sunshine-wrong-place-nz-022208522.html

 

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Peters was answering questions from an audience when the unidentified man asked "where is your evidence that there is a virus that causes this disease"? "Here's someone who gets up and says 'the Earth is flat'," Peters responded. "Sorry sunshine, wrong place." New Zealanders go to the polls on Saturday (October 17). Peters was a kingmaker in the country's previous election, siding with the Labour Party leader Jacinda Ardern to form a coalition government

 

the fella stood up and asked the question the media should have asked 7 months ago

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2 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

 

With all due respect. That's a load of bullshit. Please refrain from derailing this thread. We come to this site go get away from the fraudulent msm narrative. But it seems all you can do is to regurgitate their vomit inducing propaganda when you talk about this CC shite.

Actually it's not a load of bullshit if we look at the facts but I will make a separate thread next time. My patience for unconscious lazy selfish humans has run out in regards to litter. It's 2020, humanity have been on this planet for thousands of years so why have people not learned that littering is wrong? It's not that difficult to understand but it seems there are millions of parents out there who have failed to teach their children to put garbage in its respectable place, a garbage can, not on the ground.

 

Ok so maybe people don't like Attenborough, fair enough, but there are plenty of other people out there in the world whom have made their own documentary about how humans are wrecking the Earth, are they all bullshit too? No. People need to wise up and start having some Goddamn respect for the planet.

 

True story,

 

So yesterday I thought, I've been a real asshole the past couple days on the Icke forum, I need to get out and go for a walk in nature and decompress, nature usually helps me do that.

 

So I visited a forest preserve that I had not yet been to near the Fox river and as I'm walking the trail I see this couple walking their dog, they see me and my friend walking and they get a strange look on their face, a guy and girl and their dog. They turn out of the trail and walk away from us and the young guy is wearing a tank top and on the back it says "military police" :classic_rolleyes:

 

So my friend and I walk down the path where the couple had just been, I was curious to see it they had let their dog shit and not pick it up, because that it another common theme amongst these unconscious selfish mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers, they seem to be too insecure to pick up their dog's shit, like it's such a big deal.

 

So I'm walking the path and sure enough I find a bag of dog shit. This is a new thing I've noticed, people will pick up the dog shit with the bag and tie it in a knot but then toss it on the ground. Bloody brilliant! So now the dog shit won't break down because it's in a plastic bag! So now instead of simply having dog shit there on the path which eventually breaks down from the rain and elements, it will sit there for hundreds if not thousands of years until the plastic breaks down. Marvelous! The people who do this clearly are geniuses. NOT.

 

Now, I cannot prove that it was this "military police" dumbarse with his skank girlfriend but they were the only other people there with a dog and the bag looked like it had recently been tossed down with the way it was sitting on top of some leaves and still upright.

 

Now, obviously I'm not directing this post or my litterbug rants at people who clean up after themselves, but for those who are taking offense perhaps it's because you are guilty of littering and maybe you should consider extending a bit more respect to your fellow humans and Earth and all her creatures. I know I'm not the only one pissed about this, but I may be the only person with balls enough to speak about it and not worry about pissing off the village people.

 

Keep littering and destroying Earth and keep denying that it's happening, and maybe we get more corona virus psyops and lock downs which I may be happy to see since they really didn't affect me the first time.

 

Or people can behave as adults and admit that it's a problem and we can deal with it properly.

 

Besides, it's not like I have ruined the entire thread, I made what, five, six posts about it on one or two pages in a thread with over 300 pages? Quite the reason to get panties in a bunch.

 

Have a nice day Illuminator.

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7 minutes ago, Messenger said:

My patience for unconscious lazy selfish humans has run out in regards to litter. It's 2020, humanity have been on this planet for thousands of years so why have people not learned that littering is wrong? It's not that difficult to understand but it seems there are millions of parents out there who have failed to teach their children to put garbage in its respectable place

 

Are you virtue signaling again?

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