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1 hour ago, Comedy Time said:

 

There are numerous study teams telling the world they have isolated it and are working on a vaccine for it. If they are lying YOU need to prove that. It's hardly a realistic request that they stuff it out for you to look at to verify they have done it. YOU are claiming it is a negative, you need to show why they are lying and more importantly why. I mean, why is is so unlikely that they can isolate another coronavirus?

 

We've moved the goalposts slightly. You said it hadn't been isolated, I gave you links that it had, you claimed they weren't valid methods and failed to demonstrate why. 

 

 

You need to reread that. It says there is no gold standard for diagnosis. It doesn't say what you claimed, that the actual methodology for isolating the virus was not a gold standard. You said "RT-PCR is not considered the gold standard by virologists. "

 

Edit: detecting something (diagnosis) is not the same as isolating it for further testing.

 

A test to isolate RNA when Sars-2 is RNA - now either show a reason why that is not valid or accept that the method works and they have isolated the virus. Or prove they are lying.

 

 

Surely for the rtPCR to be valid form of detection then a complete, pure & intact pathogenic virus particle has to be isolated, photographed & characterised. Then has to be replicated in healthy cells to prove pathogenicity free frmo contamination from adjuncts such as antibiotics or any other adulterant.

 

In short they have no methodology for such identification other than that of abstract (assumed) causation as the process is wholey reliant on indirect observation.

 

The abstraction of virology has been a contentious issue for more than a century and I dont believe it to be a winning argument in the face of the current tyrannical restrictions.

 

Focusing on the tangible tyranny of injustice and inequality that lockdown and all associated restrictions causes, appears to be a more directly observable and provable argument.

 

Economic devastation DIRECTLY caused by lockdown meaasures, causes direct damage to supplier economies placing those populations at risk in the long term! 

130 million at risk of starvation as a result of mask wearing, lockdown, socially distanced, virtue signalling state sycophants.

 

The only test required at this stage  is a competency test for governement.

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15 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

The PCR test is a fraud,

 

Spoken like a true conspiracy theorist.  No it isn't.

 

15 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

there is no doubt that test should not be used to determine whether people are infected with a virus.

 

Ditto. The PCR test is probably as accurate as you can get without the test taking longer than the bloody recovery!

 

15 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

This has been discussed at length and to act like you have not seen all those articles is disingenuous. 

 

Bullshit! I'm not "acting" like anything. I just don't hold the same faith as you do in "alternative" websites! I've seen enough of them to get the gist and I simply don't have time or the inclination to go through and waste my time showing why they are not accurate.....only to have the recipient of my response to ignore it.

 

15 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

The misrepresentation of the cause of death has also been discussed at length and to ignore that is also disingenuous. 

 

Who said I was ignoring that ? And your pissy attitude is quite something. I don't recall it being raised in any post I have responded to. The same issues here are almost identical to those raised decades ago for HIV it works both ways. 

 

Hanlon's razor. Google it.

 

15 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

To then continue to claim that there is a covid-19 related out break is incorrect when acknowledging that the PCR test is a fraud and the death certificates are a fraud. 

 

Look this one up as well...

 

"Circular reasoning"

 

I don't acknowledge the PCR test is a fraud, YOU do. I don't claim the death certificates are a fraud, YOU do. It is just as likely that there are many deaths not attributed to this virus that are caused by it.

 

All those people suddenly dying is faaake is it? All those crazily overworked NHS nurses were complaining about nothing huh?

 

https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/the-covid-19-empty-hospital-conspiracies/

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/10/01/myths-misinformation-nhs-coronavirus/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, zarkov said:

Surely for the rtPCR to be valid form of detection then a complete, pure & intact pathogenic virus particle has to be isolated, photographed & characterised. Then has to be replicated in healthy cells to prove pathogenicity free frmo contamination from adjuncts such as antibiotics or any other adulterant.

 

Where did you get all that from? The virologists say they have isolated it, conspiracy theorists who are not virologists suggest lots of things but the bottom line is the claim must be that they are lying. Prove it.

 

31 minutes ago, zarkov said:

The only test required at this stage  is a competency test for governement.

 

You could have that as a daily test. But again Hanlon's razor.

 

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1 minute ago, Comedy Time said:

 

 I don't claim the death certificates are a fraud, YOU do. It is just as likely that there are many deaths not attributed to this virus that are caused by it.

 

All those people suddenly dying is faaake is it? All those crazily overworked NHS nurses were complaining about nothing huh?

 

 

Its not a claim, is easily verified on the government website & they admit in their press conferences.

 

NHS workers are not allowed to discuss COVID1984

 

You are trolling & have hijacked this thread.

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Situation in Italy: new restriction al governative and local level, expecially on the closing of certain businesses (bars, pubs, restaurants, gyms) and masks, made compulsory also in open spaces in several situations, in some regions even everywhere.

Today I signal first popular mass protests in some cities of the Campania, the region more affected by severe laws.

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Just now, oddsnsods said:

Its not a claim, is easily verified on the government website & they admit in their press conferences.

 

It works both ways! There could just as easily be deaths caused by it that are NOT attributed to it. But how the crap can you quote government admissions of incompetence to justify that it's all made up??

 

Just now, oddsnsods said:

NHS workers are not allowed to discuss COVID1984

 

Citation.

 

Just now, oddsnsods said:

You are trolling & have hijacked this thread.

 

Up yours with bells on. Report me then. I am debating raised issues on this thread, and getting decent replies. Up to now.

 

Or do you object to YOUR stuff being questioned without accountability!!!!

 

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7 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Its not a claim, is easily verified on the government website & they admit in their press conferences.

 

NHS workers are not allowed to discuss COVID1984

 

You are trolling & have hijacked this thread.

 

Out of likes.

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l just stumbled across a very comprehensive page of facts and figures.
Here's the Heading and 'chapter / subject' list;

 

THIS REPORT IS ALL BASED ON PUBLIC INFORMATION AND AS SUCH CAN BE SHARED WITH ANYONE – MPS, COUNCILLORS, DOCTORS, NURSES ETC – NO PERMISSION TO DO THIS NEEDS TO BE REQUESTED.

SHARING IS ACTIVELY ENCOURAGED!

COVID-19:

Evidence of Fraud,

Medical Malpractice,

Acts of Domestic Terrorism

and

Breaches of Human Rights

 

Presented by Andrew Johnson (A concerned Citizen)

([email protected])

31 Aug 2020

Last Updated: 29 Sep 2020

https://cvpandemicinvestigation.com/

 

TABLE OF CONTENTS

1.        Introduction

1.1       Background

1.2       Legal (Judicial Review) Challenges

2.        Evidence of Fraud

2.1       Isolation of the Virus

2.2       Worthless Reverse Transcriptase Polymerase Chain Reaction (RT-PCR) Testing

2.3       Pandemic Projections

2.4       PHE Was Told by ACDP that COVID-19 Was Not “High Consequence”

2.5       Evidence that COVID-19 is not a “Dangerous Virus”

2.6       Recording and Reporting of COVID-19 Deaths

2.7       Reporting Of COVID Deaths in Other Countries

2.8       Causes of Death Misattributed to COVID-19

2.9       Conflicts of Interest – UK Government Minister and Advisers

3.        Acts of Domestic Terrorism

3.1       Paper prepared for the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE).

3.2       Media Campaigns of Public Intimidation?

3.3       Cressida Dick – Incitement to “shaming,” Discriminating against the Disabled.

3.4       Destruction of Buildings to Prevent “Second Virus Wave”?

4.        Human Rights Violations

4.1       Lockdown Restrictions and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

4.2       Assumed Infectious Until “Proven Otherwise”

4.3       Track and Trace Measures

4.4       Vaccinations and Human Rights

5.        Breaches of Health Care Related Laws

5.1       The Health and Social Care Act (2012)

5.2       Masks

5.3       Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and Other Treatment for COVID-19 Victims

5.4       Empty Beds And Nightingale Hospitals Mothballed

5.5       A “Second Wave”?

6.        Conclusions

6.1       Persons To Be Investigated and/or Charged Under Laws Referenced in this Document

6.2       Required Actions

6.3       You May Not Have Heard about the Protests…

6.4       The Future

7.        References/Hyperlinks 

https://cvpandemicinvestigation.com/2020/09/covid-19-evidence-of-fraud-medical-malpractice-acts-of-domestic-terrorism-and-breaches-of-human-rights/?fbclid=IwAR0L239d6WB6TB50dhLMm5COFjkuLacM1p3hMwgFPkF4-AEkH3577CsPfLo#_Toc50633972 

 

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17 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

 

It works both ways! There could just as easily be deaths caused by it that are NOT attributed to it. But how the crap can you quote government admissions of incompetence to justify that it's all made up??

 

No it doesnt as they deliberately changed the rules for coroners.

 

Yes it is made up as Vallance* admits. Trololololl.

 

Removal of Form 5 Cremation Certificate for deaths relating to Covid-19 under the Coronavirus Act

 

https://thewallwillfall.org/2020/10/05/removal-of-form-5-cremation-certificate-for-deaths-relating-to-covid-19-under-the-coronavirus-act/amp/?s=09

 

Quote

 

Citation.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/09/nhs-staff-forbidden-speaking-out-publicly-about-coronavirus

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Up yours with bells on. Report me then. I am debating raised issues on this thread, and getting decent replies. Up to now.

 

Or do you object to YOUR stuff being questioned without accountability!!!!

 

 

No I object some septic, who tries to jump on peoples posts for a topic he really is clueless about on the most part.

Ignores my reply, then snipes me for some link I posted  with a factchecker site that doesnt debunk anything.

Has continually derailed this topic all morning..under the admins nose.

 

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10 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

 

It works both ways! There could just as easily be deaths caused by it that are NOT attributed to it. But how the crap can you quote government admissions of incompetence to justify that it's all made up??

 

 

Citation.

 

 

Up yours with bells on. Report me then. I am debating raised issues on this thread, and getting decent replies. Up to now.

 

Or do you object to YOUR stuff being questioned without accountability!!!!

 

You asked for citation about NHS staff being gagged.

 

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN THESE LAST MONTHS?

 

British Medical Journal

 

David Oliver: Silencing NHS staff who speak out is sheer stupidity

 

https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/369/bmj.m1388.full.pdf

 

NHS staff forbidden from speaking out publicly about coronavirus

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/09/nhs-staff-forbidden-speaking-out-publicly-about-coronavirus

 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN THESE LAST MONTHS?


He's been on the Space / Moon / Flearth threads.
He needs to do some back reading and catching up with this thread, methinks..
 

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39 minutes ago, Comedy Time said:

 

It works both ways! There could just as easily be deaths caused by it that are NOT attributed to it. But how the crap can you quote government admissions of incompetence to justify that it's all made up??

 

 

Citation.

 

 

Up yours with bells on. Report me then. I am debating raised issues on this thread, and getting decent replies. Up to now.

 

Or do you object to YOUR stuff being questioned without accountability!!!!

 

 

And this the poster aka many different accounts who recommended JumpRogue (the moderator who almost destroyed the forum) to Gareth Icke

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Re whether the virus actually exists. Having read both sides of the argument I did try and get to the bottom of this and sent an FOI request to Public Health England asking, how do they know that the deaths we have seen are caused by covid 19. They replied saying they don't have that information. Which I found particularly strange. But there you go. 

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26 minutes ago, Basket Case said:


He's been on the Space / Moon / Flearth threads.
He needs to do some back reading and catching up with this thread, methinks..
 


@Comedy Time 
This is not - " personal shit - deliberate baiting!!!!!!! "
These are  FACTS...!!!!
You have spent most of your time on these other threads.
You have only recently shown interest in this thread.
You need to catch up.
The stuff you're bringing up and using government and MSM articles to debate have been covered many times earlier in this very thread.
BC

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18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

No it doesnt as they deliberately changed the rules for coroners.

 

Yes it is made up as Vallance* admits. Trololololl.

 

You posted a video that confirmed my bloody point! People are NOT tested for it routinely when they die. Go back and see where I said this.....

 

"I don't understand the blanket denial of this virus rather than the more realistic one of those who claim it's ferocity is exaggerated. I have no problem with the latter - kind of, but the former is a bit daft."

 

 

18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Yeah, thanks for that. It's not as though any of that is new but both of you missed the bloody point! I was hoping for a citation dating back to before the internet was swamped with their stories.

 

WHY were they silenced? Getting back to MY original post about it....

 

"All those people suddenly dying is faaake is it? All those crazily overworked NHS nurses were complaining about nothing huh?"

 

Whilst I disagree completely about them being silenced, they were silenced because they were making an almighty stink about their plight! Ya know, insufficient protection, lots of them dropping like flies, overworked, long hours dealing with all the faaaake patients that suddenly turned up. So your joint citations were made after the fact and BECAUSE of the complaints about reasons that prove this whole thing is nonsense.

 

Can you understand that? Probably not.

 

18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

No I object some septic, who tries to jump on peoples posts for a topic he really is clueless about on the most part.

 

 

Two things, the level of shite I gave as to your objection is very low and I didn't "jump" on your or any others' posts. You put up a link to an "alternate" site. I put up a link to a site that shows this. 

 

18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Ignores my reply, then snipes me for some link I posted  with a factchecker site that doesnt debunk anything.

 

 

 

Show me the reply I ignored. I don't care whether you think it doesn't debunk anything - your opinion on the mater is not fact.

 

18 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Has continually derailed this topic all morning..under the admins nose.

 

Bullshit. You just don't like it when your free-for-all-back-slapathon gets questioned.

 

I am not a big supporter of the shite tory government or their handling of this. I certainly think it is not being handled well and some piss-poor decisions have been made regarding tracking and stats.

 

I just think anyone who thinks it is fake is talking bollocks.

 

Here's one of those "gagged" nurses...

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/icu-nurse-critical-care-nhs-hospital-coronavirus-covid-19-ppe-a9477486.html

 

Maybe all these Nurses caught the Flu?

https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/workforce/in-memory-a-list-of-nursing-staff-who-have-sadly-died-from-covid-19-20-04-2020/

 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

And this the poster aka as many different accounts who recommended JumpRogue (the moderator who almost destroyed the forum) to Gareth Icke

 

I reported this off topic personal shite...though whether it gets removed seems unlikely. Probably my off topic reply will...

 

I recommended him/her based on their actions at the last forum. They were always kind and courteous and dead reasonable.... a trait I thought (for one reason or another) this forum needed.

 

How did you know I recommended them? I told you all so!! Honest ...me. I had no idea they would turn into a raving post deleting lunatic. I publicly apologise for my useless recommendation. 

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If anyone thinks covid is real then contact this doctor ASAP and claim his $5k reward! If you’re wondering what some of these strange symptoms are or respiratory issues people are dying with, there’s a thing called pneumonia which believe it or not, still exists, and affects about 450 million people a year, never been into lockdown before because of it

 

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2 minutes ago, Seeker said:

 

If anyone thinks covid is real then contact this doctor ASAP and claim his $5k reward! If you’re wondering what some of these strange symptoms are or respiratory issues people are dying with, there’s a thing called pneumonia which believe it or not, still exists, and affects about 450 million people a year, never been into lockdown before because of it

 

Should be an easy £5k then, you know, since the virus has been isolated an all. 

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honk honk @Comedy Time

 

The nurses were silenced from day one, nothing to do with being overworked.

They were so overworked they were putting out tik tok videos every hour of the day.

Nobody was allowed inside the hospitals & somebody actually got imprisoned for 14 weeks for filming an empty hospital & posting it on Fakebook.

 

46 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

And this the poster aka many different accounts who recommended JumpRogue (the moderator who almost destroyed the forum) to Gareth Icke

 

It doesnt surprise me Gareth Icke would take the word of Truegroup.

Like he did with his mate MerlinCove on the last forum, who was banning anybody including myself for questioning the Westminster Bridge hoax.

Almost like Merlin was following orders.

Coz he was pretty gistapo about what he was doing.

locking people in the rant room then antagonising them till they bite & banning them when he loses the debate.

 

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