Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: Your timing is impeccable...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, greatdayforfreedom said: A vaccine for a virus that doesn't exist. Will you take the vaccine for it? (rhetorical question). Listen. YOU are the one claiming it doesn't exist. People who work on viruses say it does. They have isolated it and there are numerous places stating the same thing. All you are doing is saying they are lying. Take the fast tracked untested vaccine for this? I'd rather inject putrid pisswater into my veins. Does that clarify my position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Your timing is impeccable...... No, yours is (but what for I have no idea). It said "33 minutes ago" when YOU looked at my reply - go look now! Page number 330? Again I don't know what you are talking about, it's 329 at the moment isn't it? Edited October 15, 2020 by Comedy Time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Comedy Time said: No, yours is (but what for I have no idea). It said "33 minutes ago" when YOU looked at my reply. Page number 330? Again I don't know what you are talking about, it's 329 at the moment isn't it? Your post was the first on page 330. And knowing your fascination for coincidences and recurring number themes l just had to point it out.. You replied to WingWang exactly 33 minutes after he posted it as my picture shows. BC :O) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingwang Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: Edit: detecting something (diagnosis) is not the same as isolating it for further testing. Exactly. And RT-PCR does not isolate any virus according to Koch's postulates. Ergo, covid hasn't been isolated to a gold standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Your post was the first on page 330. And knowing your fascination for coincidences and recurring number themes l just had to point it out.. You replied to WingWang exactly 33 minutes after he posted it as my picture shows. BC :O) NO I DID NOT. I replied x number of minutes after he posted - when YOU looked at my post, that was how long ago it was. Unless you clicked it the split second I posted it. We ain't on page 330 yet, so no idea what you are talking about. Is this some daft obscure freemasonry shite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankVitali Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Your post was the first on page 330. And knowing your fascination for coincidences and recurring number themes l just had to point it out.. You replied to WingWang exactly 33 minutes after he posted it as my picture shows. BC :O) I find this funny. But tbf, fuckin ell, do you think Comedy Time sits there refreshing the page until it lapsed 33 minutes, must be coincidence eh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankVitali Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: NO I DID NOT. I replied x number of minutes after he posted - when YOU looked at my post, that was how long ago it was. Unless you clicked it the split second I posted it. We ain't on page 330 yet, so no idea what you are talking about. Is this some daft obscure freemasonry shite? Yeah I'm still on page 329 ? I wanna know why BC has got an extra page of posts :-D (thread derailing a tad) Edited October 15, 2020 by FrankVitali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, wingwang said: Exactly. And RT-PCR does not isolate any virus according to Koch's postulates. Ergo, covid hasn't been isolated to a gold standard. No, nice try though. https://www.virology.ws/2010/01/22/kochs-postulates-in-the-21st-century/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Comedy Time said: You didn't address the point I made. Why would they admit this? And the reference you pointed to was for the original 2019 batch isolates. It makes more sense to work with original strains of a virus rather than potentially mutating versions of it. Citation please. Why do you repeat your claim already addressed? The virus has been proven to exist and saying it hasn't is very much a King Canute statement. Proving a virus exists doesn't prove that there is an epidemic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, FrankVitali said: I find this funny. But tbf, fuckin ell, do you think Comedy Time sits there refreshing the page until it lapsed 33 minutes, must be coincidence eh 7 minutes ago, FrankVitali said: Yeah I'm still on page 329 ? I wanna know why BC has got an extra page of posts :-D (thread derailing a tad) l was pulling Comedy Times plonker As for page numbers, l guess hidden posts in this long thread have put Mods pages out of sync with members pages...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, SimonTV said: Proving a virus exists doesn't prove that there is an epidemic. I agree. I don't think there IS an epidemic or pandemic yet. It is a very bad flu virus that hasn't gone out of control. Yet. I don't understand the blanket denial of this virus rather than the more realistic one of those who claim it's ferocity is exaggerated. I have no problem with the latter - kind of, but the former is a bit daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Basket Case said: hidden posts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xRhOMp38xk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, Comedy Time said: I agree. I don't think there IS an epidemic or pandemic yet. It is a very bad flu virus that hasn't gone out of control. Yet. I don't understand the blanket denial of this virus rather than the more realistic one of those who claim it's ferocity is exaggerated. I have no problem with the latter - kind of, but the former is a bit daft. The PCR test is a fraud, there is no doubt that test should not be used to determine whether people are infected with a virus. This has been discussed at length and to act like you have not seen all those articles is disingenuous. The misrepresentation of the cause of death has also been discussed at length and to ignore that is also disingenuous. To then continue to claim that there is a covid-19 related out break is incorrect when acknowledging that the PCR test is a fraud and the death certificates are a fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Comedy Time said: There are numerous study teams telling the world they have isolated it and are working on a vaccine for it. If they are lying YOU need to prove that. It's hardly a realistic request that they stuff it out for you to look at to verify they have done it. YOU are claiming it is a negative, you need to show why they are lying and more importantly why. I mean, why is is so unlikely that they can isolate another coronavirus? We've moved the goalposts slightly. You said it hadn't been isolated, I gave you links that it had, you claimed they weren't valid methods and failed to demonstrate why. You need to reread that. It says there is no gold standard for diagnosis. It doesn't say what you claimed, that the actual methodology for isolating the virus was not a gold standard. You said "RT-PCR is not considered the gold standard by virologists. " Edit: detecting something (diagnosis) is not the same as isolating it for further testing. A test to isolate RNA when Sars-2 is RNA - now either show a reason why that is not valid or accept that the method works and they have isolated the virus. Or prove they are lying. Surely for the rtPCR to be valid form of detection then a complete, pure & intact pathogenic virus particle has to be isolated, photographed & characterised. Then has to be replicated in healthy cells to prove pathogenicity free frmo contamination from adjuncts such as antibiotics or any other adulterant. In short they have no methodology for such identification other than that of abstract (assumed) causation as the process is wholey reliant on indirect observation. The abstraction of virology has been a contentious issue for more than a century and I dont believe it to be a winning argument in the face of the current tyrannical restrictions. Focusing on the tangible tyranny of injustice and inequality that lockdown and all associated restrictions causes, appears to be a more directly observable and provable argument. Economic devastation DIRECTLY caused by lockdown meaasures, causes direct damage to supplier economies placing those populations at risk in the long term! 130 million at risk of starvation as a result of mask wearing, lockdown, socially distanced, virtue signalling state sycophants. The only test required at this stage is a competency test for governement. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, SimonTV said: The PCR test is a fraud, Spoken like a true conspiracy theorist. No it isn't. 15 minutes ago, SimonTV said: there is no doubt that test should not be used to determine whether people are infected with a virus. Ditto. The PCR test is probably as accurate as you can get without the test taking longer than the bloody recovery! 15 minutes ago, SimonTV said: This has been discussed at length and to act like you have not seen all those articles is disingenuous. Bullshit! I'm not "acting" like anything. I just don't hold the same faith as you do in "alternative" websites! I've seen enough of them to get the gist and I simply don't have time or the inclination to go through and waste my time showing why they are not accurate.....only to have the recipient of my response to ignore it. 15 minutes ago, SimonTV said: The misrepresentation of the cause of death has also been discussed at length and to ignore that is also disingenuous. Who said I was ignoring that ? And your pissy attitude is quite something. I don't recall it being raised in any post I have responded to. The same issues here are almost identical to those raised decades ago for HIV it works both ways. Hanlon's razor. Google it. 15 minutes ago, SimonTV said: To then continue to claim that there is a covid-19 related out break is incorrect when acknowledging that the PCR test is a fraud and the death certificates are a fraud. Look this one up as well... "Circular reasoning" I don't acknowledge the PCR test is a fraud, YOU do. I don't claim the death certificates are a fraud, YOU do. It is just as likely that there are many deaths not attributed to this virus that are caused by it. All those people suddenly dying is faaake is it? All those crazily overworked NHS nurses were complaining about nothing huh? https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/the-covid-19-empty-hospital-conspiracies/ https://bylinetimes.com/2020/10/01/myths-misinformation-nhs-coronavirus/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, zarkov said: Surely for the rtPCR to be valid form of detection then a complete, pure & intact pathogenic virus particle has to be isolated, photographed & characterised. Then has to be replicated in healthy cells to prove pathogenicity free frmo contamination from adjuncts such as antibiotics or any other adulterant. Where did you get all that from? The virologists say they have isolated it, conspiracy theorists who are not virologists suggest lots of things but the bottom line is the claim must be that they are lying. Prove it. 31 minutes ago, zarkov said: The only test required at this stage is a competency test for governement. You could have that as a daily test. But again Hanlon's razor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Comedy Time said: I don't claim the death certificates are a fraud, YOU do. It is just as likely that there are many deaths not attributed to this virus that are caused by it. All those people suddenly dying is faaake is it? All those crazily overworked NHS nurses were complaining about nothing huh? Its not a claim, is easily verified on the government website & they admit in their press conferences. NHS workers are not allowed to discuss COVID1984 You are trolling & have hijacked this thread. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredo79 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Situation in Italy: new restriction al governative and local level, expecially on the closing of certain businesses (bars, pubs, restaurants, gyms) and masks, made compulsory also in open spaces in several situations, in some regions even everywhere. Today I signal first popular mass protests in some cities of the Campania, the region more affected by severe laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedy Time Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, oddsnsods said: Its not a claim, is easily verified on the government website & they admit in their press conferences. It works both ways! There could just as easily be deaths caused by it that are NOT attributed to it. But how the crap can you quote government admissions of incompetence to justify that it's all made up?? Just now, oddsnsods said: NHS workers are not allowed to discuss COVID1984 Citation. Just now, oddsnsods said: You are trolling & have hijacked this thread. Up yours with bells on. Report me then. I am debating raised issues on this thread, and getting decent replies. Up to now. Or do you object to YOUR stuff being questioned without accountability!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ziggy Sawdust Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Its not a claim, is easily verified on the government website & they admit in their press conferences. NHS workers are not allowed to discuss COVID1984 You are trolling & have hijacked this thread. Out of likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 l just stumbled across a very comprehensive page of facts and figures. Here's the Heading and 'chapter / subject' list; THIS REPORT IS ALL BASED ON PUBLIC INFORMATION AND AS SUCH CAN BE SHARED WITH ANYONE – MPS, COUNCILLORS, DOCTORS, NURSES ETC – NO PERMISSION TO DO THIS NEEDS TO BE REQUESTED. SHARING IS ACTIVELY ENCOURAGED! COVID-19: Evidence of Fraud, Medical Malpractice, Acts of Domestic Terrorism and Breaches of Human Rights Presented by Andrew Johnson (A concerned Citizen) ([email protected]) 31 Aug 2020 Last Updated: 29 Sep 2020 https://cvpandemicinvestigation.com/ TABLE OF CONTENTS 1. Introduction 1.1 Background 1.2 Legal (Judicial Review) Challenges 2. Evidence of Fraud 2.1 Isolation of the Virus 2.2 Worthless Reverse Transcriptase Polymerase Chain Reaction (RT-PCR) Testing 2.3 Pandemic Projections 2.4 PHE Was Told by ACDP that COVID-19 Was Not “High Consequence” 2.5 Evidence that COVID-19 is not a “Dangerous Virus” 2.6 Recording and Reporting of COVID-19 Deaths 2.7 Reporting Of COVID Deaths in Other Countries 2.8 Causes of Death Misattributed to COVID-19 2.9 Conflicts of Interest – UK Government Minister and Advisers 3. Acts of Domestic Terrorism 3.1 Paper prepared for the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE). 3.2 Media Campaigns of Public Intimidation? 3.3 Cressida Dick – Incitement to “shaming,” Discriminating against the Disabled. 3.4 Destruction of Buildings to Prevent “Second Virus Wave”? 4. Human Rights Violations 4.1 Lockdown Restrictions and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights 4.2 Assumed Infectious Until “Proven Otherwise” 4.3 Track and Trace Measures 4.4 Vaccinations and Human Rights 5. Breaches of Health Care Related Laws 5.1 The Health and Social Care Act (2012) 5.2 Masks 5.3 Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and Other Treatment for COVID-19 Victims 5.4 Empty Beds And Nightingale Hospitals Mothballed 5.5 A “Second Wave”? 6. Conclusions 6.1 Persons To Be Investigated and/or Charged Under Laws Referenced in this Document 6.2 Required Actions 6.3 You May Not Have Heard about the Protests… 6.4 The Future 7. References/Hyperlinks https://cvpandemicinvestigation.com/2020/09/covid-19-evidence-of-fraud-medical-malpractice-acts-of-domestic-terrorism-and-breaches-of-human-rights/?fbclid=IwAR0L239d6WB6TB50dhLMm5COFjkuLacM1p3hMwgFPkF4-AEkH3577CsPfLo#_Toc50633972 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: It works both ways! There could just as easily be deaths caused by it that are NOT attributed to it. But how the crap can you quote government admissions of incompetence to justify that it's all made up?? No it doesnt as they deliberately changed the rules for coroners. Yes it is made up as Vallance* admits. Trololololl. Removal of Form 5 Cremation Certificate for deaths relating to Covid-19 under the Coronavirus Act https://thewallwillfall.org/2020/10/05/removal-of-form-5-cremation-certificate-for-deaths-relating-to-covid-19-under-the-coronavirus-act/amp/?s=09 Quote Citation. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/09/nhs-staff-forbidden-speaking-out-publicly-about-coronavirus Quote Up yours with bells on. Report me then. I am debating raised issues on this thread, and getting decent replies. Up to now. Or do you object to YOUR stuff being questioned without accountability!!!! No I object some septic, who tries to jump on peoples posts for a topic he really is clueless about on the most part. Ignores my reply, then snipes me for some link I posted with a factchecker site that doesnt debunk anything. Has continually derailed this topic all morning..under the admins nose. Edited October 15, 2020 by oddsnsods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Comedy Time said: It works both ways! There could just as easily be deaths caused by it that are NOT attributed to it. But how the crap can you quote government admissions of incompetence to justify that it's all made up?? Citation. Up yours with bells on. Report me then. I am debating raised issues on this thread, and getting decent replies. Up to now. Or do you object to YOUR stuff being questioned without accountability!!!! You asked for citation about NHS staff being gagged. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN THESE LAST MONTHS? British Medical Journal David Oliver: Silencing NHS staff who speak out is sheer stupidity https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/369/bmj.m1388.full.pdf NHS staff forbidden from speaking out publicly about coronavirus https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/09/nhs-staff-forbidden-speaking-out-publicly-about-coronavirus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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