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On 10/13/2020 at 12:35 AM, Messenger said:

Um because elephants are in their natural environment simply eating to survive where as humans destroy trees for profit of fiat currency and to build a guitar that makes a specific tone. The guitar and music industry is only one example.


Seems you have taken offense to my comment. Why does the music industry need to destroy a rainforest to build a guitar? Why can't the music industry such as Gibson, build a guitar out of sustainable trees from a farm? Is this too logical of a thought?


How many Earth's are there in the universe for us to destroy so we can have material shit that we don't absolutely need but want because we have been programmed to believe that it is a definition of "success"?


sorry i am not very good at communication with Americans but ill do my best 


You misunderstood the nature of my question

i am asking why is it ok for animals to destroy as part of their natural existence

but humans can not?


answer because you cant make elephants feel guilty perhaps humans are fulfilling their own destiny too 


you comments sound like virtue signaling to me


i have taken no offence from your comments although i have taken some mild amusement


the world/earth can't tell the difference between an elephant ripping down a tree or the music industry

so your motivation based on the common denominator of such an event would appear to be "moral superiority"


if you could send elephants to the school of moral superiority to learn not to rip up trees

any elephants that fail to get their diploma

you will be waiting to say


hey elephant you are not as virtuous as me!





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2 hours ago, Noctua said:

The problem is, regardless of resignations and hundreds of doctors stating that it was planned, they are storming ahead with it.  The latest circuit breaker issue was actually leaked to the press way back in September when they reported that they were considering a two week lockdown over half term in England.  Then they strung us along with Rule of 6, and all the Tiers for the next couple of weeks, but bang on time, here we are - about to have a 'circuit break' over half term.


I have never know so many leaks to the media weeks in advance, which all turn out to be totally spot on.


I personally know of five people who are going under because of this.  Five is not a lot in the grand scheme of things, but they are my friends and they are on the brink.  Losing everything.


And yet I know not of a single person who has been hospitalized, who has tested positive, who has had anything other than a normal head-cold.  Despite the fact that I live in a so-called red zone.


Yeah and who would doubt that that "circuit breaker" is going to take a long time to break. They just put the name in there to make people think its only 2 weeks, after the time is over its very likely the cases will still be going up and they'll declare a need to extend until Christmas.


Similar to the way the field of psychiatry works, "oh your anti-depressants are giving you suicidal thoughts? You must not be getting enough then! Take double the dose and come back to me next week" 

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9 hours ago, jesuitsdidit said:

Yes they should listen to the Doctors and others who have recently signed the Great Barrington Declaration. That is a far more intelligent approach.

The question is: WILL THEY?



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3 hours ago, jesuitsdidit said:




Medical doctors declare that the pandemic was planned


A group of over 500 medical doctors in Germany called ‘Doctors for Information’ made a shocking statement during a national press conference: (1)

‘The Corona panic is a play. It's a scam. A swindle. It's high time we understood that we're in the midst of a global crime.'

This large group of medical experts publishes a medical newspaper with circulation of 500,000 copies every week, to inform the public about the massive misinformation in the mainstream media. 'Doctors for Information' is supported by over 6,000 professionals. They organize mass protests in Europe, like the one on August 29, 2020 where 12 million people signed up and an estimated one million actually showed up.





Hundreds of Spanish medical doctors say the pandemic is planned

In Spain a group of 600 medical doctors called ‘Doctors for Truth’, made a similar statement during a press conference. 

‘Covid-19 is a false pandemic created for political purposes. This is a world dictatorship with a sanitary excuse. We urge doctors, the media and political authorities to stop this criminal operation, byspreading the truth.’ (2)

Germany and Spain are just two examples. Similar large groups of hundreds of medical experts exist in countries across the world. In the USA a documentary called PLANDEMIC, which exposes COVID-19 as a criminal operation, is supported by over 27,000 medical doctors






Completely made up, the whole thing.

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1 hour ago, Comedy Time said:


Corporate shite, look at Peru.


Bruce Lee is funded by Bill Gates, did you know that?





You still seriously believe this is about a virus?⏰


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7 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:


Corporate shite, look at Peru. Bruce Lee is funded by Bill Gates, did you know that?


Completely irrelevant. Address the content. Ad hominem doesn't cancel out the reasons given.


7 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:


Girl on Twitter?




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Took my daughter to doctors last night said she needs to self isolate do a test etc. So having no choice but to do it I looked into swab test. At test centres they are shoving the thing very far into nose etc. Wife say s in Italy people are terrified of it.

problem being if you do the test yourself at home the government advise is different. The swab you do is nowhere near as invasive.

I know it’s a bull, just wondered why the heavy handed ness at test centres.



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Just now, Comedy Time said:


Completely irrelevant. Address the content. Ad hominem doesn't cancel out the reasons given.



Girl on Twitter?






Its not irrelevant..Gates funds the corporate media, Bruce Lee is a paid mouthpiece like the rest.


Peru had the most draconian lockdown policy on the planet & the highest amount of deaths per capita.

Plus all this long covid is pseudo bollocks. No different from any other flu. For a virus that 99.8% fully recover & has only killed around 300 people in the Uk without underlying health conditions under the age of 60.


You can find tons of videos of Sweden if you look..




Also Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan..or the places without lockdown

Odd that.



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In the Three-Tier system which starts at "medium" then "high" and "very high" there is no “low."


The very high alert level, RED, will see people banned from socialising with other households both indoors and in private gardens, while bars and pubs will be closed unless they can operate as restaurants. Alcohol could be served in pubs operating as restaurants in these areas, but only as part of a meal. Residents will also be advised against travelling in and out of these areas, while it will be up local politicians as to whether other leisure venues such as gyms and casinos should also close.


The high level, AMBER, will see people prevented from socialising with other households indoors, although support bubbles will still be permitted. In these areas, the rule of six will continue to apply outdoors in public spaces, as well as private gardens.


The medium level, YELLOW, includes the "rule of six" and the 10pm curfew for pubs, bars and restaurants.


There is no low level, GREEN, to go... where all restrictions are lifted and we return to normaility.



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Yvel is currently working on a COVID19 protective mask, ordered by one of its inveterate customers: a Chinese billionaire from Shanghai.

The mask provides the highest level of filtration (N-99) and meets the most stringent standards, and is slightly different from the other masks available on the market: it is the most expensive mask in the world, valued at $ 1,500,000.

The mask, designed by Orna and Isaac Levy, Yvel’s owners and designers, is made of 250 grams of pure 18k gold, and set with no less than 3,608 natural diamonds, with a total weight of about 210 carats.



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6 hours ago, Jode said:

I havent watched the news in months but with everyone discussing liverpool at the school gates I watched this morning....


I actually was dreading a second lockdown but was thinking "naaahhh no way" I was watching those people who had screamed for lockdown back out enjoying their lives and i thought no way will anyone want to go through that again....


Yet here we are... i feel just totally lost I have gotten through the last 6 months by just trying my best - home improvements, spending time with kids, lots of journaling, reflecting, planning...... I'm just getting back on my feet and so are my kids. I dont think I'll survive this a second time. I really dont think I can do it :( 

Keep your chin up and block out all of the nonsense you see on the news. It's enough to turn someone to the bottle when you see the madness and programming going on.


Stick to concentrating on your kids, writing, spending time in nature etc. Do what's good for you. Stay on here. Where others can help and listen.


Hope you're doing okay as I say and remember that you're on the good side ☺️

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