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12 minutes ago, Mr H said:

 

Thank you so much Xelnaga you are very kind.

 

Yes, it was really nice to know and hear his stories of how the UN and the WHO (also worked for) waste everyone's money.  And also said they've been working on the covid vaccine for years (which we already know but nice to hear from a former official's mouth) I look forward to hearing more stories from him in the future.

No problem, you're welcome my friend.

 

I heard something from a guy in Chicago, who said that mRNA vaccines were made somewhere between 2014-2016, with idea of curing cancer.

 

It's a long story, but these vaccines are supposed to be made specifically for a certain person, for a certain reason, with a certain "message".

 

Who knows what "message" are all these people getting right now.

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On 9/13/2021 at 2:04 PM, SimonTV said:

 

Safe haha, yea check out the vaccine injury thread. I guess they are safe if you want your baby to look he/she is being electrocuted for the rest of their short lives. 

To be fair, she is in my opinion, quite a fit bird.

 

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https://www.20min.ch/story/das-steckt-hinter-dem-warnbrief-von-moderna-und-pfizer-576634384376

 

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"Important safety information about the mRNA vaccines against Covid-19"

 

This letter from Covid-19 vaccine manufacturers Moderna and Pfizer has been making the rounds for a few weeks. 20 Minuten has also received it several times from readers.

 

The letter is always combined with the request that the information contained therein be made public - so that "society also gets to know this side of vaccination and not just that of the Federal Council." (Pictured: Federal Councilor Alain Berset, September 8, 2021) The letter is always combined with the request that the information contained therein be made public - so that "society also gets to know this side of vaccination and not just that of the Federal Council." (Pictured: Federal Councilor Alain Berset, September 8, 2021)

 

The letter contains information that has been known for a long time. It addresses the fact that the mRNA vaccines from both Moderna and Pfizer can cause myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) or pericarditis (inflammation of the pericardium) in very rare cases. The writing is real. The letter contains information that has been known for a long time. It addresses the fact that the mRNA vaccines from both Moderna and Pfizer can cause myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) or pericarditis (inflammation of the pericardium) in very rare cases. The writing is real.

 

What must not be disregarded when classifying the reported heart infections is that both myocarditis and pericarditis can also occur with a Sars-CoV-2 infection, even in children. What must not be disregarded when classifying the reported heart infections is that both myocarditis and pericarditis can also occur with a Sars-CoV-2 infection, even in children.

 

In addition, it can happen even without an infection or vaccination, for example if you start exercising too early after catching a cold. In addition, it can happen even without an infection or vaccination, for example if you start exercising too early after catching a cold.  That’s what it’s about

 

Allegedly, it should be kept secret that heart problems can occur in very rare cases after vaccination against Covid-19. Representatives of this opinion rate a joint letter from vaccine manufacturers Moderna and Pfizer as correspondingly explosive.

 

The information is anything but secret.

 

That's behind it.

"Important safety information about the mRNA vaccines against Covid-19" - this is how the letter begins, which the vaccine manufacturers Moderna and Pfizer sent in coordination with Swissmedic in mid-August. It addresses the fact that the vaccines of the two companies can cause myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) or pericarditis (inflammation of the pericardium) in very rare cases.

 

The letter is genuine and is aimed at medical professionals. But now it is passed around outside this group under the name “warning letter” - usually with the implicit reference that the information contained therein should be kept quiet by the Federal Council and the mass media in order not to endanger the vaccination campaign.

 

 

A kind of package insert for professionals

 

The fact that such a letter informs the medical staff who administer this preparation about undesirable or very rare side effects is all extraordinary, but a purely precautionary measure - similar to the instruction leaflets that come with both over-the-counter and prescription drugs. It also lists all known side effects.

 

The “warning letter” is “a DHPC (Direct Healthcare Professional Communication)” with which pharmaceutical companies inform medical specialists about newly identified drug risks and therapy-relevant changes to the specialist information, according to Swissmedic spokesman Lukas Jaggi. Correspondingly, such letters are also published in the “Schweizerische Ärztezeitung”. Heart problems in 0.00127 percent of vaccinations

 

Nobody denies that the mRNA vaccination against Covid-19 can lead to myocarditis or pericarditis. Researchers, the media and also Swissmedic pointed out a possible connection long before the letter from Pfizer and Moderna was sent out. Even with 20 minutes this was a topic several times. Just like the finding that it only happens in very rare cases.

 

By the end of August 2021, 9,660,805 doses of the mRNA vaccine had been administered in Switzerland; during the same period, Swissmedic had "123 suspected cases of myocarditis and / or pericarditis reported" in connection with the mRNA vaccines, according to Jaggi (see box). That means: the risk of an inflammation of the heart is 0.00127 percent and is therefore negligible. In addition, according to Jaggi, the processes were “mostly unproblematic”. Those affected were predominantly male and the mean age was 39 years. More cases after Moderna, but .

 

 

Of the cases reported by the end of August, 20 were related to Pfizer / Biontech's Comirnaty and 102 to Moderna's Spikevax. In one case, the vaccine is not yet known. However, this does not mean that the vaccine from Moderna causes more side effects than that from Pfizer / Biontech, according to the Swissmedic spokesman. "More of it is simply administered in Switzerland." There are around 3.2 Biontech cans for around 6.4 million Moderna cans (as of August 31, 2021)

 

What must not be disregarded when classifying the reported heart infections is that both myocarditis and pericarditis can also occur with a Sars-CoV-2 infection, even in children. "In the age group that is most affected - young male adults - the likelihood of suffering from myocarditis due to Covid-19 is several times higher," said Jaggi. In addition, such a disease can also occur without an infection or vaccination, for example if you start exercising too early after catching a cold.

 

For medical laypeople, the most important sentence in the letter is that it indicates that the benefits of the vaccinations continue to outweigh the possible risks.

 

 

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so after countless blood clots have been reported they are still considered 'rare' events are they? total clown world

Champion show jumper, 22, who suffered 'extremely rare' reaction to Moderna vaccine may never ride again as doctors say blood clots that formed on her lungs after she had Covid jab could have been triggered by taking the combined contraceptive pill

  • Imogen Allen, 22, had two blood clots form on her lungs after Moderna vaccine
  • Doctors said the clots may have been triggered by jab and contraceptive pill
  • She will be on blood-thinning medication for all her life due to the rare reaction 
  • Ms Allen, from Woodcote, may never ride a horse again or become a detective

By Kate Dennett For Mailonline

Published: 09:38 EDT, 15 September 2021 | Updated: 09:54 EDT, 15 September 2021

A champion show jumper may never ride a horse again after two massive clots formed on her lungs in an incredibly rare reaction to the Moderna Covid-19 vaccine.

Imogen Allen, 22, was told by doctors that the clots, which formed two weeks after she was jabbed, could have been triggered by the vaccine alongside five years on the combined contraceptive pill.

Ms Allen, from Woodcote, Berkshire, may never be able to ride a horse again and has had her dreams of becoming a police detective dashed after she was left bedbound.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9993515/Show-jumper-22-suffered-extremely-rare-reaction-Moderna-vaccine-never-ride-again.html

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

so after countless blood clots have been reported they are still considered 'rare' events are they? total clown world

Champion show jumper, 22, who suffered 'extremely rare' reaction to Moderna vaccine may never ride again as doctors say blood clots that formed on her lungs after she had Covid jab could have been triggered by taking the combined contraceptive pill

  • Imogen Allen, 22, had two blood clots form on her lungs after Moderna vaccine
  • Doctors said the clots may have been triggered by jab and contraceptive pill
  • She will be on blood-thinning medication for all her life due to the rare reaction 
  • Ms Allen, from Woodcote, may never ride a horse again or become a detective

By Kate Dennett For Mailonline

Published: 09:38 EDT, 15 September 2021 | Updated: 09:54 EDT, 15 September 2021

A champion show jumper may never ride a horse again after two massive clots formed on her lungs in an incredibly rare reaction to the Moderna Covid-19 vaccine.

Imogen Allen, 22, was told by doctors that the clots, which formed two weeks after she was jabbed, could have been triggered by the vaccine alongside five years on the combined contraceptive pill.

Ms Allen, from Woodcote, Berkshire, may never be able to ride a horse again and has had her dreams of becoming a police detective dashed after she was left bedbound.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9993515/Show-jumper-22-suffered-extremely-rare-reaction-Moderna-vaccine-never-ride-again.html

Does anyone know if Boris mum died from vaccine side effects or was it natuaral? The irony would be something else if it was vaccine related 

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11 minutes ago, Looney tune said:

Does anyone know if Boris mum died from vaccine side effects or was it natuaral? The irony would be something else if it was vaccine related 

If it was vax related i think the 'kill the story machine' would be in overdrive and turbo boosting by now with perhaps a D notice as a top up

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On 9/14/2021 at 5:27 PM, callmenuts said:

hey guys, can anybody help me out here.

 

Im working on a quick video about vax deaths and I was wondering if anybody knew of the clip I will describe.

 

Somewhere in america around 6 months or so ago a black woman was talking on a stage surrounded by vax pushers and she went on to say "I dont care whats in it, im not looking at the ingredients, Im rolling up my sleeve, and im taking it"

 

Anyone help?

 

i mind her, she had short hair

 

i think her job title was something to do with schools but i can't remember what district....new york or something like that

 

yeah she was head of public schools for the district or something like that.

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4 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Got government replies to several other petitions I sign online a while back. Usual response on all of them. Basically we have considered this petition and quite frankly we don’t give a fuck what you think. Bye

 

Well that is what I expected and those petitions weren't successful.

So as far as I know, no petition has changed anything so far.

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3 hours ago, Looney tune said:

Not at all. Just no point in being like them in the actions you choose to do. If you start out being deceitful for your own gains you wouldn't mind doing decietful behaviour again and again. Thus making you no better than that which needs to be removed. You say 77th brigade whilst the route you choose is that of their masters on a thread about covid not the meme pages that are set up in turn derailing this thread, the true work of a 77th.

The cabal needs removing and there ways and means, but no one needs to be doing it decietfully, did jesus drop his morals to gain the upper hand? 

 

I don't care if I am better than them or not. What matter is if I am effective in producing a result at this point and I don't need to seek a permission or approval from anybody though I'd appreciate extra ideas from others. We've been through these kind of moral issues in the past and look where it got to us. You are the kind of person who would say in a war, oh it's the enemy's stash, we shouldn't steal from them. lol All war is based on deception if you read Sun Tzu.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Looney tune said:

Does anyone know if Boris mum died from vaccine side effects or was it natuaral? The irony would be something else if it was vaccine related 

She had Parkinson's disease, although she died SUDDENLY!

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