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1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I'm saying that the Taliban are not really a threat to the elites. They're just now in bed with the Eurasianists for the Belt and Road future, not that they never wasn't though.

 

 

They are a poor country and are kissing arse to get the economy going, people are suffering  starvation, you can't blame them for trying to take care of their own people It is understandable. Our governments over here in the west are taking care of us but in a very much different way.

Least the afghans destroyed all face masks and vaccines, no 5G either. Got to give them a little credit for doing the right thing.

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Just now, jack121 said:

 

They are a poor country and are kissing arse to get the economy going, people are suffering  starvation, you can't blame them for trying to take care of their own people It is understandable. Our governments over here in the west are taking care of us but in a very much different way.

Least the afghans destroyed all face masks and vaccines, no 5G either. Got to give them a little credit for doing the right thing.

 

I'm not blaming them, just saying that I don't really think they're a threat to the elites. The future is with the East, not the West.

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5 hours ago, jaybird said:

does anyone know what kind of trouble you might get into for using a fake corona vx card? i am in the US

 

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Buying or even attempting to buy a forged certificate is a crime in the UK and using a forged certificate to travel is fraud by false representation. If you're caught selling fake certificates in the UK, you might face a prison sentence.

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8 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Another batshit crazy Communist plant that gets blasted into peoples home via the TV goblin. I still haven't forgotten how she was salivating at the idea of American's cancelling their Christmas.

I know right. Strikingly similar to the Canadian one - Tam... only Tam's waaaaaaaay more sinister looking... Tam might have been a UK raised Hong Konger, but a freedom hating commie HongKonger nonetheless

 

#flashback to her 2010 cameo

 

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On 9/12/2021 at 3:22 AM, whatthefoxhat said:

It's simply to take peoples attention elsewhere,theres the familiar pattern emerging flood the media with a good news story and sneak through some bad news underneath it,this is the people being blindsided whilst they organise themselves for another lockdown and don't forget the emergenncy powers act is up for renewal this month

 

Yes, something sneaky is going on as you highlight. (Out of likes)   The good news story did not last long, again a familiar pattern, within 24 hours they are saying the electronic freedom of movement pass could be brought in during the Winter.

 

The lull before the storm?   Go softly, softly until the end of the year, engineering the public's demand for electronic freedom of movement passes?

UK Covid news LIVE: Chaos over vaccine passports as minister admits they haven’t been ‘ruled out forever’

13/09/21 AM

 

Vaccine passports could still be brought in this winter, a minister had said, just hours after the health secretary announced a U-turn on their introduction.

 

Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey said the introduction of vaccine passports has not been “ruled out forever”.

 

She told BBC Breakfast: "As Sajid Javid set out yesterday, although the formal decision is still to be made, but having reflected and looked at the details of the proposal that it's not deemed necessary at this moment in time.

 

“But they haven't been ruled out forever. It's reflecting the fact that a lot of young people have come forward and got their vaccinations over the summer.”

 

It is likely to cause more uncertainty for businesses, such as nightclubs and music venues, who have been left confused over whether or not they need to prepare for them.

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/covid-coronavirus-latest-updates-boris-johnson-vaccine-passports-winter-plan-lockdown-news-b954973.html

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7 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

I know right. Strikingly similar to the Canadian one - Tam... only Tam's waaaaaaaay more sinister looking... Tam might have been a UK raised Hong Konger, but a freedom hating commie HongKonger nonetheless

 

#flashback to her 2010 cameo

 

 

I remember sharing that clip shortly after Wuhan. Scary stuff.

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11 minutes ago, jack121 said:

They are a poor country and are kissing arse to get the economy going, people are suffering  starvation,

Our countries like the UK, Australia, NZ are pretty much bankrupt and having imploding economies too... and our people have been starving for years, now even MORE so.

 

12 minutes ago, jack121 said:

Our governments over here in the west are taking care of us but in a very much different way.

No they are not... they want us dead!

 

Sorry, I don't mean to be argumentative for the sake of it and I understand where you're coming from, but we [in the West] are currently being blatantly murdered by starvation, lack of medical care, lockdowns/fear and via forced injection of poison right now by our own governments as the magnificent civilization that our ancestors built for us is being systemically destroyed and our history is being erased while being invaded by hostile cultures... and on top it's being made illegal to complain about it.... forgive me if my sympathies don't extend to the people of Afghanistan, or Africa, our sympathies should be taking care of our own... as you said...

14 minutes ago, jack121 said:

you can't blame them for trying to take care of their own people

 

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

here are just a few;

 

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Don't be fooled. The PM still retains all of the powers he claims to be scrapping. He can still shut down businesses ' our freedoms with the flick of a pen using the Public Health Act 1984. He's just throwing a scrap to Tory backbenchers to get his emergency powers extended.
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Yesterday I had to correct a radio host who said to me on air, that cases were rising. If I hadn’t, thousands of people would have assumed she was right. Enough isn’t made of the good news, if this trend continues with schools back, it bodes very well for winter.

 

 

 

The government is ruling nothing out - with Work and Pensions Secretary Theresa Coffey saying it's "fair" to say that lockdowns, compulsory masks, social distancing and working from home orders are all tools that remain at the government's disposal.

 

The PM "is expected to warn that mandatory face masks could be reintroduced and work from home guidance reinstated" - that's according to The Times.

 

Richard Horton, editor in chief of The Lancet, has told Sky News there are positives and negatives to look at with our current COVID situation.

 

The positive is that two thirds of the UK population is vaccinated but on the other hand we have the second highest number of infections of any country in the world, behind the US. (Therefore, vaccines have been ineffective.)

 

The virus is still out there and still transmitting, he said. (They have a transmitter?)

 

He hopes that while we celebrate the good vaccination rates, we are cautious going into winter. "I still think we need to keep the idea of passports as a potential measure."

 

He said things could get worse here if there is a new variant or if vaccine immunity begins to wane.

 

"We're in a very, very delicate situation." He said we might need vaccine passports in November and December if the situation gets worse.

 

Professor Neil Ferguson, whose (flawed) modelling was instrumental to the UK going into lockdown in March 2020, has told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that vaccinating teenagers is the priority.

 

However, he said he was supportive of booster jabs for a wider population, saying that evidence from Israel suggests they "really are very effective at further driving down transmission and infection".

 

Asked whether a further lockdown could be ruled out, he said "I hope so" but added that "you can't rule out anything completely."

 

Business as usual then!

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11 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

well they already did that with 911

 

you could say they have been waging war of one form or another against western populations for centuries but yes bidens tone was threatening. Hopefully he will have put a lot of peoples backs up on both sides of the aisle and we will see some non partisan pushback

 

Are the American people really going tolerate an old, weak and deranged child-sniffer dictating to them in such threatening tones, in the 'Land of the free?' Probably!

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13 minutes ago, Velma said:

Business as usual then!

 

its a psychological trick to avoid people being able to resist

 

they say 'we are not going to do such-and-such' eg bring in vaccine passports or lockdown again

 

the public then relax because they think that the politicians are not going to do whatever it is they said they won't do

 

Then once the politicians are ready to carry out the next phase they announce suddenly that they need to do the thing they said they wouldn't because of [insert excuse eg there is a surge in cases ie false positive test results or this winter there is a real upsurge in death and illness due to the jabs which then gets blamed on a 'variant']

 

This way the public are led by the nose like a dumb beast one step at a time into enslavement like a bull being coaxed into a pen or as david would say: the 'totalitarian tiptoe'

 

Each reversed lie is one more tiptoe step towards totalitarianism and because no single step is ever on its own too repugnant for the bulk of the public to reject the whole keeps moving forward towards their final intended destination (death or complete enslavement under a technocratic world government)

 

This can only be done to people who are short sighted through ignorance of the wider picture ie they lack PERSPECTIVE within which to see and understand what's being done to them and the corporate media is carefully crafted to ensure that the public never achieve the context within which to view events

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1 minute ago, Velma said:

Are the American people really going tolerate an old, weak and deranged child-sniffer dictating to them in such threatening tones, in the 'Land of the free?' Probably!

 

well the people who identify as 'american' and who have respect for the constitution and the placing of limits on government are being watered down by m,ass immigration whilst their children are being psychologically re-framed at school and university to not only hate their country but also to hate themselves so that they become passive and allow the government to steamroll over them

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

its a psychological trick to avoid people being able to resist

 

they say 'we are not going to do such-and-such'

 

the public then relax because they think that the politicians are not going to do whatever it is they said they won't do

 

Then once the politicians are ready to carry out the next phase they announce suddenly that they need to do the thing they said they wouldn't because of [insert excuse]

 

This way the public are led by the nose like a dumb beast one step at a time into enslavement like a bull being coaxed into a pen or as david would say: the 'totalitarian tiptoe'

 

Each reversed lie is one more tiptoe step towards totalitarianism and because no single step is ever on its own too repugnant for the bulk of the public to reject the whole keeps moving forward towards their final intended

destination

 

This can only be done to people who are short sighted through ignorance of the wider picture ie they lack PERSPECTIVE within which to see and understand what's being done to them and the corporate media is carefully crafted to ensure that the public never achieve the context within which to view events

 

They have used this tactic since the outset but still people comply and they don't even know why.

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47 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

they've been banging that drum since I first moved there in 2011.... and it's only been "ethnic" immigrants who committed horrendous violent crimes; that chocolate shop siege in Sydney and that nutter who went nuts in Burke St mall in Melbs.

 

they've recently start here too.... as if! 

Action Zealandia, NZ's largest neo-Nazi group, on the hunt for new recruits

9 Aug, 2021 05:30 PM

A neo-Nazi group is attempting to recruit more members across Aotearoa.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/action-zealandia-nzs-largest-neo-nazi-group-on-the-hunt-for-new-recruits/BK56VEKDR5AJE2CMBVNAX2DKRA/

 

 

Fucking desperate to cause division and to get people to rat on each other (if they suspect their friend has been radicalized!)

 

Strangely enough it was some weirdo from another country who did the false flag in Christchurch (they said he was a white supreme pizza but he had questionable ties to Israel) and it was a Muslim refugee who went on a stabbing rampage in an Auckland supermarket recently and an Indian witness said it appeared he was targeting white people!

 

Nazis there may be, but I'd imagine they just hang out, drink piss and rant to each other about the glorious Reich. lol

 

Lately though there has been at least two ‘supposed breaches’ of the lockdown by the Jewish community, an engagement party where an Insta was uploaded showing them laughing about restrictions, and the other was a gathering at a synagogue. Both caused outrage in the community of virtue signalling covidiots. They’re definitely trying to incite some anti Semitic clashes since they can’t provoke a black vs white race war here

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Obviously the balaclavas and sunnies😎are being worn so they can’t be identified, it’s not part of their ‘uniform’

 

 

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12/09/2021
COVID-19: South Africa Announces ‘Vaccine Passport’ Plans, Eases Restrictions
https://www.channelstv.com/2021/09/12/covid-19-south-africa-announces-vaccine-passport-plans-eases-restrictions/

 

'In two weeks, we will “be providing further information on an approach to ‘vaccine passports’, which can be used as evidence of vaccination for various purposes and events”, he said without providing further details.

 

But he added that “a sustained decline in infections… over the last few weeks” would allow for an easing of confinement measures from Monday.

 

A night-time curfew will be shortened, starting at 11:00 pm instead of 10, and limits on indoor and outdoor gatherings will be increased.

 

Restrictions on the sale of alcohol will also be relaxed, although face masks remain mandatory in public.'

 

Wow, how generous! /s

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4 minutes ago, Velma said:

They have used this tactic since the outset but still people comply and they don't even know why.

 

because as long as each step is bareable then they see it as the path of least resistance compared to the alternative which is resistance

 

to resist requires someone to accept inconvenience and struggle into their life so in order to do that a person MUST have enough DRIVE to be willing to accept that discomfort or pain in their life

 

their self-respect and righteous indignation has to over-ride their fear of taking action

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