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3 hours ago, Messenger said:

and when I see shit like that I cannot help but think that humans deserve three or four more corona events.

 I think this is the point...to make humans completely and utterly lose faith in each other. To see each other as worthless entities. I mean we wont fight for each other if that's how we view each other. We certainly wont look after ourselves if we come to believe our existence doesnt mean all that much. 

I dont like seeing suffering either we arent equipped mentally to cope with such large scale, daily doses of traumatic events and we only see these things because of the media. . . . . I believe most individuals are just trying to live their short lives the best they can in the only way they know how. Culling humanity, deciding who is worthy to live or die? Well I don't think that is a job for you messenger. Who gets to decide who is worthy, and how do you come to that decision? 

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17 minutes ago, Number6 said:

If you have time please sign the Barrington Declaration: 

 

https://gbdeclaration.org/

 

No worries if you do not want to. 

I don't agree with this.

 

We are offered two choices

 

one for the vaccine

Other test and trace =Both lead to the same agenda.

 

Both parts played by the same hand.

 

You have the choice of a vaccine

Or get tested whever you go

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24 minutes ago, Jack said:

I don't agree with this.

 

We are offered two choices

 

one for the vaccine

Other test and trace =Both lead to the same agenda.

 

Both parts played by the same hand.

 

You have the choice of a vaccine

Or get tested whever you go

 

Yes, thousands of scientists and doctors who believe the virus is real and all we need in herd immunity.

 

That's bogus!

 

Incidentally, I figured out who's lurking on my neck...

 

face_on_mars.jpg?w=510

 

 

 

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57 minutes ago, Velma said:

The UK hospitality industry has said it will take legal action to stop new local lockdown rules that could force pub, clubs and other venues to close.

 

Trade body the Night Time Industries Association (NTIA) said there was no evidence that hospitality venues contributed to the spread of Covid-19.

 

It comes as the government prepares to unveil new restrictions for England.

 

NTIA boss Michael Kill said the hospitality industry had been left with "no other option".

 

"These new measures will have a catastrophic impact on late night businesses, and are exacerbated further by an insufficient financial support package presented by the chancellor in an attempt to sustain businesses through this period," he said.

 

"This next round of restrictions are hugely disproportionate and unjust, with no scientific rationale or correlation to Public Health England transmission rates, when compared to other key environments."

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54463132

I hope they bloody well do too. Messing people about like that!

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1 minute ago, Velma said:

 

Yes, thousands of scientists and doctors who believe the virus is real and all we need in herd immunity.

 

That's bogus!

 

Incidentally, I figured out who's lurking on my neck...

 

face_on_mars.jpg?w=510

 

 

 

yeah Dr. Sunetra Gupta is getting funding by MOD and with track and trace companies.

 

The great reset is trending on twitter, which is waking up a few people.

 

At least its getting traction.

 

I used to have a necklace very similar to that, gold face mask, looked so cool and loads commented.

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Just read a great article on the BBC. All about gas lighting.

Said the signs were as follows:

1. Made to constantly doubt yourself.

2. made to constantly doubt your actions.

3. Made to doubt your perception of reality.

 

Considering the MSM including the BBC constant coverage of every facet of Corona Virus, from how to do your hair to not going to hospital until your on deaths door, I think they are demonstrating a text book example of gas lighting.

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1 hour ago, Jack said:

I don't agree with this.

 

We are offered two choices

 

one for the vaccine

Other test and trace =Both lead to the same agenda.

 

Both parts played by the same hand.

 

You have the choice of a vaccine

Or get tested whever you go

and to be fair the uk is already implementing the 'test , trace, self isolate' system. this barrington declaration is really asking for the current situation to be extended indefinately , the new normal.

 

absolutely bizarre that people will be signing on to it but then ...... some people will grasp at anything even if its the same thing they are opposed to already

 

 

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5 hours ago, Messenger said:

Millions of people at this point into this "pandemic" are likely asking themselves, why?

 

Here is the answer to that question of, why corona.....

 

I had never heard of this David Attenborough man before a few days ago. I was sitting down to eat my dinner and began to browse netflix for something peaceful to watch. I love planet Earth and this film caught my eye so I gave it a try.

 

At the finish I had thoughts coming to me saying, this is the reason for corona and lockdowns. We are destroying Earth and it needs to stop. I am not picking on any one person as I believe many are responsible for the destruction. I was too at one point with all my fancy cars that I ran race oil and fuel with for years, but over the last few years my life has changed considerably to where my carbon footprint now is very low. I have an old 20" freestyle bike (Haro) and I share a vehicle with a family member.

 

Sharing a vehicle with a family member at the age of 43 is by western society's standards, considered laughable, I'm a loser in many people's eyes because I don't portray the image of success by driving the latest Lexus IS-F or BMW M3 or Audi RS-5 etc etc. Good thing that I don't care about what unconscious selfish insecure brainwashed people think of me.

 

My point is, humanity cannot continue to live as if the world and planet are theirs to do with as they wish. It's fun to have nice material items but it is very costly in the long run and I don't mean monetarily I mean planetary. We cannot continue mining Earth to make millions of automobiles that run on oil so that selfish bank managers, corporate execs, military stooges, and other agents inside the matrix can lease the latest luxury vehicle for six months only to repeat the process over and over until they die, only to leave the mess they have caused to their children which they claim to love.

 

I really believe that most Americans only love themselves, they don't really love their children as much as they claim and if they did then they wouldn't scoff and complain about having to actually homeschool and raise their own kids, rather than the state brainwashing their kids to be good little corporate slaves for the beast system.

 

I have heard many people say they love their kids, but then every payday they are buying cases of beer and packs of cigs, depriving their children of exploring their talents so they can grow up and be happy productive members of society. More people need to understand that with sex comes responsibility of raising the possible child that they create. I believe that this understanding escapes many people who have kids who ultimately should not and this is the pickle that we are in as a species.

 

Yes a species. More people need to begin to think on a higher level and stop believing that humans are at the top of the food chain, because if anything, this corona agenda has proven to even the most hardcore self-perceived "alpha" males that they are in fact not as alpha as they thought but instead they are mortal flesh and blood who can be reduced to a masked slave in a matter of weeks.

 

As a species I believe we can do better and self restraint and responsibility with sex is the first step. I probably don't need to preach to people on the David Icke forum as those who happen to read this post probably have similar feelings or may agree with what I'm saying in regards to reducing our planetary resource consumption. Many resources that we have been using are finite, oil is one example, the rainforest is another, so is the ocean. We cannot throw any of these out of balance and not expect a very bad outcome and most people don't even consider this in their day to day life as millions of people have been reduced to a type of slavery in which we don't actually look like the typical slave but we feel like it from sitting in a cubicle every day for eight hours, or standing at a cash register, or whatever else we do for work to generate a paycheck so we can pay bills and buy food.

 

Most people never once thinking or asking themselves all the while, how can I replenish what I take from Earth.

 

I have said it many times, if people don't want socialism and corporate slavery and corrupt government imposing their DRACOnian laws on us then we must take responsibility and step up and begin to think about the bigger picture when we make decisions in our lives, and this means that the millions of service-to-self takers will need to have a look in the mirror and change their behavior 180 degrees to producer, provider, preservationist, curator, etc. That's if in a century or two we want our downline to have a nice planet to live on. I don't have kids so I can easily say, fuck this I'm out, but instead I care and I am concerned.

 

This is only one of many documentaries and films produced by people who are essentially begging humanity to please step up your game in terms of respect for Earth and all her children. Another documentary that comes to mind is called, Saving Jaws, which focuses on China's shark fin market and the destruction of sharks which is throwing the ocean's ecosystem out of balance. China are lucky that I am a broke ass bitch because if I had lots of money there would be far less shark fin stores open and the cemeteries would have a lot more shark fishermen graves stones.

 

Not to mention it is absolutely disgusting to chop off extremities of a live animal and then toss that animal back into the environment to die a slow painful death, and when I see shit like that I cannot help but think that humans deserve three or four more corona events. I mean, could you imagine a larger entity/species coming to planet Earth and begin eating humans and there is nothing we could do about it, this larger entity chopping off human arms and legs because they are considered a delicacy and then leaving the victim to bleed out and die. That's what China are doing to sharks. Go watch it, you'll see, everyone should have that mental imagine burned into their mind so they get it.

 

If I had my way, the culling of humanity would continue until people wake the fuck up and change their embarrassing grotesque behavior, but lucky for those low frequency entities I was not gifted with the ability to pluck them from the physical plane with the snap of my fingers.

 

Anyhow, enough of my telling people what they don't want to hear, but I hope people consider that they can do better for Earth because what's good for Earth is good for us, and what's bad for Earth is bad for us.

 

David Attenborough: A Life On Our Planet trailer

 

 

 

Have i read your post wrongly it seems like you are saying you're 43

and you've never heard of David Attenborough until a few days ago?

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, zArk said:

and to be fair the uk is already implementing the 'test , trace, self isolate' system. this barrington declaration is really asking for the current situation to be extended indefinately , the new normal.

 

absolutely bizarre that people will be signing on to it but then ...... some people will grasp at anything even if its the same thing they are opposed to already

 

 

exactly,can get the vax which would be your digital immunity passport OR get tested which can cost up to £140 each all the time.

 

Large scale Events, theatres, festivals wont open until this is implemented.

 

You'd havr to have the all clear before you go anywhere

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Tool's Maynard James Keenan Opens Up About Coronavirus Battle & After-Effects: 'I Survived It, But It Wasn't Pretty.

 

https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/columns/rock/9463589/tool-maynard-james-keenan-coronavirus-battle-after-effects?fbclid=IwAR0lz1PQ2c-D98r411roJFWw0zopcC7xjaiv7mMyk7U1TISNQxGcSvnekJ8

 

He gets a quick plug in for wearing masks.

 

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4 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Approaching a quarter  of a million signatures but it should have been on  10 million by now at least.

Fuck the sleeping hordes.

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Adopting measures to protect the vulnerable should be the central aim of public health responses to COVID-19. By way of example, nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and perform frequent PCR testing of other staff and all visitors. Staff rotation should be minimized. Retired people living at home should have groceries and other essentials delivered to their home. When possible, they should meet family members outside rather than inside. A comprehensive and detailed list of measures, including approaches to multi-generational households, can be implemented, and is well within the scope and capability of public health professionals. 

Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold.

 

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As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e.  the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity. 

just reads like more bolox to me

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5 hours ago, Foggy Dewhurst said:

how could they possibly foresee a second wave was definitely coming?

 

oh that's easy to predict because every year beginning in the autumn and running through the winter and into the spring there is a 'flu season' where people have a higher rate of infection for the flu and colds and so on with unfortunately some people who are usually old and/or sick succumbing to that

 

This means that every year there is an uptick in deaths to the flu during winter time

 

So if you are creating a panic based around an alleged virus and you are calling infections and deaths from the flu and pnuemonia 'covid 19' then you will get a wave every year starting in the autumn

 

I'm going to look into my crystal ball and predict that there will be another wave of deaths to flu and pneumonia next winter....

Public Health England Will Combine Flu and Covid Statistics From Now On

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9 hours ago, Number6 said:

Here's another Sky News Australia one for you:

Dangerous Marxist leaders call for ‘The Great Reset’ to destroy capitalism

A disturbing movement to reform capitalism is gaining traction by those using the coronavirus tragedy to call for “The Great Reset”. These are not the ramblings of a few disgruntled teenagers or a wacky sociology professor from inner-city Sydney.

 

Full article: https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6178243325001

 

I have been asking everyone I know to look up 'Lockstep' and the 'Great Reset'. Pointing out they have dedicated websites and it isn't a conspiracy theory. I have rattled a few of them. I have started slipping the words into the comments on youtube as well, I think everyone should slip in actual factual stuff that you can prove that comes out of the mouths of these cunts. Some people are still in denial that the PTB are thinking up this stuff. I wonder what will be the topic at the next Bilderberg group meeting. 

 

On many online threads I am just leaving the words 'The Great Reset' without further comment. To do so without the words getting lost in a paragraph (people are lazy) might encourage people to search the term for themselves.

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The interesting thing about the great reset and the support of the authoritarian left for it is that as we can clearly see it is being pushed down onto society from above by royalty, corporate chiefs and even 'conservative' governments

 

So clearly it is an elite run operation that is not by the people for the people

 

So if lefties consider themselves revolutionaries for the people then why would they support something that is clearly not by the people and for the people?

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12 minutes ago, rideforever said:

The street looks like a hospital ward ... people feel ill, that's the symbolism of the mask

Yes. There's a spirit of resigned misery in the air wherever I go in Birmingham. At best it looks and feels how I would imagine a 1950s East European communist city to be. 

 

At worst it looks and feels how I would imagine sheep do on those huge caged trucks as they make their way to the abattoir. 

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2 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Just read a great article on the BBC. All about gas lighting.

Said the signs were as follows:

1. Made to constantly doubt yourself.

2. made to constantly doubt your actions.

3. Made to doubt your perception of reality.

 

Considering the MSM including the BBC constant coverage of every facet of Corona Virus, from how to do your hair to not going to hospital until your on deaths door, I think they are demonstrating a text book example of gas lighting.

 

Yeah and Millennials and people raised in such a pathetic way don't have any reality in them, so that creates a big problem in society, aren't we at the point in time when that generation is old enough to have managerial jobs in society ... now they are reflecting their own lack of sanity in their choices and society has to mop it up.

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3 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Just read a great article on the BBC. All about gas lighting.

Said the signs were as follows:

1. Made to constantly doubt yourself.

2. made to constantly doubt your actions.

3. Made to doubt your perception of reality.

 

Considering the MSM including the BBC constant coverage of every facet of Corona Virus, from how to do your hair to not going to hospital until your on deaths door, I think they are demonstrating a text book example of gas lighting.

 

The idea of gas lighting or being gas lit just makes me want to punch the shit out of the gas lighter.  

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Where is the so called "virus"? I've walked around here and there, local shops, been on the bus a few times into town, and I've seen posters on bus stops reminding us of social distancing and masks, I've seen signs on the ground, arrows saying to stay 2 metres apart, I've seen people wearing masks and slathering hand sanitiser on themselves, but I've seen no evidence of a virus. If all these reminders were removed by morning tomorrow, if all the posters and signs were gone, then the "virus" would disappear along with them.

 

It's been months, any so called deadly disease would have blown through all of us by now, I don't give a shit how much social distancing there is or how protected people think they are, it would have happened, but it hasn't. 

 

It's time to end this charade now, it's long outstayed it's unwelcome. We can end this now.

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