Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[Velma]

6 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

There is no virus.

 

Exactly!

[Mitochondrial Eve]

So why have the WHO done a U-turn on lockdowns?

 

I think we can rule it out as a genuine indication of sense prevailing and benevolence. Nor do I think that the WHO thinks the game is up in the wake of the Great Barrington Declaration and are offering governments a reason to back down on lockdowns.

 

I would suggest that this is the latest gaslighting ploy to maintain control. Perhaps the time has come to throw us some crumbs of hope - to get people thinking that lockdowns can be lifted. But this will come with strings attached of course in the form of invasive technologies such as vaccines and increased surveillance etc. I suspect that the vaccine is already ready and waiting in the wings whilst public opinion is gauged for the optimal time to introduce it.

 

Like in an abusive relationship, nobody wants to stay with a partner who is nasty all the time. But throwing in some false hope now and again helps keep the victim less suspecting.

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/communication-success/201704/7-stages-gaslighting-in-relationship

 

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6. Give False Hope. As a manipulative tactic, the gaslighter will occasionally treat the victim with mildness, moderation, and even superficial kindness or remorse, to give the gaslightee false hope. In these circumstances, the victim might think: “Maybe he’s really not THAT bad,” “Maybe things are going to get better,” or “Let’s give it a chance.”

 

But beware! The temporary mildness is often a calculated maneuver intended to instill complacency and have the victim’s guard down before the next act of gaslighting begins. With this tactic, the gaslighter also further reinforces a codependent relationship.

 

And perhaps the plan is to place the blame at the hands of our governments if they continue with lockdowns (the problem) which could lead to calls for a different system (the reaction) such as a global government and technocracy (the solution).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Velma]

6 hours ago, Lord Humungus said:

I don't think you're supposed to post a forum poster's photo. At least not without her/his specific permission.

 

@Velma

 

Well, that's blown my cover! Not anonymous anymore, Do I care? Eh, na.

Edited October 11, 2020 by Velma

[Velma]

1 hour ago, Jack said:

i can see a face on your neck

I know! Don't know who that is on my neck?

[Jack]

On 10/8/2020 at 1:16 PM, Golden Retriever said:

Please share, this is gaining momentum.

 

Today 8 October front page

 

[FrankVitali]

All just a bunch of bent bellends

[Velma]

21 minutes ago, Messenger said:

Cool shades, nice scarf Velma. 

 

Thanks! Pound shop shades!

 

FYI one side of my home-made sign, in green and yellow Covid-Emergency colours reads:

 

please remove your face covering

 

LOCK

DOWN

KILLS

 

thank you for understanding.

 

The other side said; CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY IN PROGRESS.

 

They didn't publish that, too close to the bone. But the police were impressed.

 

[Lord Humungus]

4 minutes ago, Velma said:

Well, that's blown my cover! Not anoymous anymore, Do I care? Eh, na.

My point is that it sets a dangerous precedent when we start to allow this behavior. Post pictures of yourself if you like. Don't post pictures of other forum members.

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

13 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

Well, that's blown my cover! Not anoymous anymore, Do I care? Eh, na.

MOD NOTE.
Velma.
l deleted it.
Not a good idea, members posting real photos of themselves.
A bit different IMO by posting a link to an article and mentioning it.
Other members should never post photos of other members no matter how / why they found them.
BC

[Velma]

1 minute ago, Basket Case said:

MOD NOTE.
Velma.
l deleted it.
Not a good idea, members posting real photos of themselves.
A bit different IMO by posting a link to an article and mentioning it.
Other members should never post photos of other members no matter how / why they found them.
BC

 

Thanks, I prefer my profile picture anyway.

[Mikhail Liebestein]

2 hours ago, SimonTV said:

 

More fear propaganda, now people are going to think the virus can remain on surfaces for 28 days when that is not true. No doubt causing mass hysteria about disinfecting all surfaces everywhere. These people have gone nuts. 

 

I think there is evidence to show that Coronaviruses can survive on surfaces when cold for up to 28 days, I did find an old article to that effect. But clearly this does apply to products from Amazon.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7190947/

 

But the real point is that virus isn’t that deadly. Rather like a forest fire, there is a lot of deadwood about as the older baby boomer age, but really anyone under 60 should be concerned.

 

[Ziggy Sawdust]

On 10/8/2020 at 1:21 AM, Ziggy Sawdust said:

The UK Government tells the Barrington people to fuck off.

After all, how could thousands of the world's top doctors, scientists, epidemiologists and virologists know

more than Johnson, Hancock, Whitty and Vallance?

 

A quarter of a million signatures now.....and growing.

https://gbdeclaration.org/

Edited October 11, 2020 by Ziggy Sawdust

[Illmatic]

16 minutes ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

 

I think there is evidence to show that Coronaviruses can survive on surfaces when cold for up to 28 days, I did find an old article to that effect. But clearly this does apply to products from Amazon.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7190947/

 

But the real point is that virus isn’t that deadly. Rather like a forest fire, there is a lot of deadwood about as the older baby boomer age, but really anyone under 60 should be concerned.

 

 

Yeah I think I may have posted previously in this thread but I remember going for a health screening in my university a few years ago and a throat swab coming back positive for strep despite not having a sore throat.

 

Was obviously surprised and the doctor explained we have millions of viruses and bacteria lining our breathing and digestive systems all the way to our stomach, but the fact that they are there does not mean that they are attacking our body and we are sick.

 

What the media with the help of the who and others has done is quite incredible. We are now scared of every single other living thing including the invisible ones because we think they might kill us, at the same time being completely unaware that we live with billions of them inside us all the time and if you get into the realm of spirituality we are all one consciousness.

 

This isn't a war against a virus, its a war against laughing, hugging, shaking hands, crying in pain, singing in joy and all the other ways we share love and energy as human beings. I genuinely find it so disturbing that people would even consider giving that up and becoming a type of automaton just because they are scared. 

Edited October 11, 2020 by Illmatic

[lake]

3 hours ago, Sit down, Waldo said:

It's being spread by cash now...

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54500673

 

 

ESTA: No risk of contamination with Covid-19 on banknotes

• 19 Mar 2020 15:33

ESTA, The Cash Management Companies Association, has issued the following statement.

ESTA Statement Wednesday 18 March 2020

There is no evidence that cash helps COVID-19 spread. 

 

- The World Health Organization (WHO) has denied that cash and, specifically, banknotes transmit the new coronavirus COVID-19.  

- The European Central Bank (ECB) and other national central banks, and renowned scientific institutions have ruled out that the coronavirus spreads through banknotes. 

- The best protection is to follow the recommendations of health authorities.

 

Given the various information in which it is stated that banknotes could transmit COVID-19, different authorities such as the World Health Organization, the European Central Bank and other national central banks, and renowned scientific institutions have confirmed that there is no scientific evidence that there is an increased risk of spreading the new virus from the use of cash. 

 

WHO spokesperson Fadela Chaib confirmed that WHO was “misrepresented” when a UK paper stated that banknotes may be spreading COVID-19. “WHO did NOT say banknotes would transmit COVID-19, nor have we issued any warnings or statements about this,” Chaib said to financial information website Market Watch.1

 

ECB and several central banks have contested that banknotes represented any risk of contamination. These institutions have stated that there is no proof that the coronavirus has spread by euro banknotes. They have also reminded that the Eurosystem conducts regular research on the potential impact that the manufacture and circulation of euro banknotes can have on public health, including in relation to viruses.

 

For banknotes to pose a risk to human health in relation to the coronavirus, “someone would have to use a bank note to sneeze in”. “Coins are actually very bad environments for viruses to survive”, says Dr. Christine Tait-Burkard, an expert in infection and immunity at the Roslin Institute at the University of Edinburgh

 

Prof. Mariano Esteban, Head of the Poxvirus and Vaccines Group of the National Centre for Biotechnology in Spain, further explains that a virus needs to enter a cell to continue being active, otherwise it will deteriorate quickly on any inanimate surface, except in extremely low temperatures (- 20°C to -70°c). 

 

Therefore, the risk to be contaminated by viruses is very low when touching a banknote, and not much different from that of touching other objects such as hand rails, tickets machines, door handles or plastic payment cards. For contamination to occur, the COVID-19 needs to get passed the respiratory system first. Some precautions, like avoiding touching eyes, nose and mouth, and regularly and thoroughly cleaning hands with an alcohol-based hand rub or washing them with soap and water, are good protections against a possible contamination.

 

Thierry Lebeaux Secretary general 

 

https://www.g4s.com/en-gb/media-centre/news/2020/03/19/esta-statement-on-cash-and-coronavirus

 

[Macnamara]

So Sars cov 2 can't be transferred by touching things but it causes:

 

-suicide

-deafness

-infertility

-retardation

-loss of smell

-giddiness

-strokes

-thickening of the blood

 

its almost like its not caused by a coronavirus at all but rather from vaccine damage combined with microwave damage from 5G...

[banjo dog]

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Just a thought  Dont know what I am doing wrong, but when I submit post it all goes wrong. First 3 letters and last 2= panic.  Deceive, Enslave, Manipulate.

Edited October 11, 2020 by banjo dog
clarity what I was referring to

[wingwang]

@Velma

 

Big up your shoes and socks!

[Velma]

1 hour ago, wingwang said:

@Velma

 

Big up your shoes and socks!

 

More pictures from Edinburgh protest

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/gallery/lockdown-protest-in-edinburgh-22824674

[Mikhail Liebestein]

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

So Sars cov 2 can't be transferred by touching things but it causes:

 

-suicide

-deafness

-infertility

-retardation

-loss of smell

-giddiness

-strokes

-thickening of the blood

 

its almost like its not caused by a coronavirus at all but rather from vaccine damage combined with microwave damage from 5G...

 

 

I’m worried I’ve last my sense of taste.

 

I’ve been exercising a lot since lockdown started, and so needed to buy some new clothes having lost a bit of weight and having built up muscle.

 

However, whilst online shopping, I almost bought this! 

 

 

Should I tell PHE about this new symptom?

Edited October 11, 2020 by Mikhail Liebestein

[oddsnsods]

‘The Great Reset’: World leaders to harness COVID and pursue 'sinister' climate agenda

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6199544116001

 

 

Sky News host Rowan Dean says the next World Economic Forum in Davos has morphed from a “jet-setter climate gabfest” into a sinister “anti-democratic enterprise designed to destroy your job, steal your prosperity and rob your kids of a future”. “It's a hardcore leftist eco-horror show replete with quasi fascism,” he said. Mr Dean highlighted what he described as a “disturbing trend among many of the world's left-wing elites to increasingly conflate COVID-19 with climate change. “Many are going so far as to suggest that all the measures applied to the coronavirus, the lockdowns, the destruction of businesses, the suppression of dissent, curfews, strong-arm police tactics, should become the ‘new normal’ for dealing with climate change. Mr Dean said the next World Economic Forum is planning “to convince governments with the help of big businesses and big tech to bring about something deeply sinister called ‘The Great Reset’.” “It is a program designed to strip us all of our fundamental democratic rights in favour of a new form of society as dictated by the elites”. Mr Dean said the advertising for ‘The Great Reset’ was “just about as cliched and vomit-inducing as the most inane corporate ad can be”. “This promo is saying that all the very worst things in the world, from the coronavirus to bushfires to riots to pollution to poverty are somehow linked. “Then it is claiming they can magically disappear. Literally at the push of a button and just like that, everything in the world is made right and pure again. “The Great Reset. What could be simpler? Mr Dean said ultimately “lunatics including Prince Charles and the United Nations and the IMF want to replicate the global response to COVID and repurpose it for climate change, to enforce zero net emissions”.

[Macnamara]

1 hour ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

However, whilst online shopping, I almost bought this! 

 

 

 

That's definately covid!

 

1 hour ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

Should I tell PHE about this new symptom?

 

you should probably download an app so that the government can spy on you. You should definately let the government choose your clothes for you. Then everything will be fine...

[oneantisworthtenofyou]

6 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Trust me......we're fucked.

 

yes we're fucked but some more so than others 

while some can simply be told to follow and obey 

others will reverse engineer any control system from any authority 

 

it will be interesting to see how easy it will be to circumvent these systems of new world order

since they will mostly rely on exploitable technology 

can i use a "proxy" to bypass the new world order or will it require a more in depth approach 

 

i was thinking the type of folk who are able to critically think might also be in a better position

to fight against the control

thinking how to beat it is a good start

the majority will just accept it and follow

they are the truly fucked

 

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by oneantisworthtenofyou

[Ziggy Sawdust]

3 minutes ago, oneantisworthtenofyou said:

 

yes we're fucked but some more so than others 

while some can simply be told to follow and obey 

others will reverse engineer any control system from any authority 

 

it will be interesting to see how easy it will be to circumvent this systems of new world order

since they will mostly rely on exploitable technology 

can i use a "proxy" to bypass the new world order or will it require a more in depth approach 

 

i was thinking the type of folk who are able to critically think might also be in a better position

to fight against the control

thinking how to beat it is a good start

the majority will just accept it and follow

they are the truly fucked

 

 

 

Yes, sadly the majority will just accept it.

If only the percentage of us awake to what's really going on had been around 50% instead of between 5 and 10% (my own personal estimate) we may have stood a chance but as things stand, the obedient, brainwashed muzzled zombies are taking us down with them.

I was talking to a neighbour  today and I said to him "Do you really mean to tell me that you think life will go back to how it was up until last March"?......."Of course it will" he replied, "just as soon as we get a vaccine for this awful virus and then we can throw the masks away and all the social distancing will disappear....life will be normal again."

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

[Concerned Citizen]

AT A TEST CENTRE in OXFORD - WHY DO THEY NOT WANT FILMING to TAKE PLACE? ANY LEGITIMATE REASONS to offer?

This individual is rather aggressive in trying to stop any filming - Why is filming a test drive in centre NOT wanted? Is there something to hide? The individual in the pic above is NOT wearing a mask and later on sneezes in the vicinity of the person taking the footage.

Edited October 12, 2020 by Concerned Citizen
Corrections

[oneantisworthtenofyou]