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Just now, EnigmaticWorld said:

I believe you both want what's best for people, and we shouldn't argue over different ways of looking at the dilemmas that we all face.

 

they don't want what's best for people; they are complicit in the conspiracy

 

they want to go back to sleep. They are upset that they have been woken up. They want all the psychopathic corporate system gives them they just don't want to deal with the consequences

 

well the consequences are coming down the pipe now

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30 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

well that's for people to decide for themselves isn't it?

 

all i do is throw ideas out there. I'm not forcing them on people like the government is

 

i'm simply putting out some ideas for alternatives otherwise what else is there?

 

i know you are itching for a violent overthrow but then what? how do you feed what must be now over 70 million people in this country?

 

 

my cosy existence ended many years ago. My mind has been troubled by this stuff way before covid

 

there have been various iterations of solutions threads across various platforms. There was one before the hack and one on the old forum and they go back before i even joined davids forum

 

trying to think of a way out of this mess has been a bit of an obsession for over a decade now

 

 

'armchair general'!

 

you mean the guy who has actually done things to combat the conspiracy by changing things in my life? sure one person doing these things makes barely a ripple but if many people do these things then they change the world

 

you just keep pinning your hopes on an external saviour. This week it will be the aussie truckers and maybe next week it will be carehome workers.....''maybe they'll refuse the jab''

 

maybe this, maybe that!

 

while you are posting maybes on the forum i'm getting on with doing the things that the conspiracy doesn't want done because it is at its core a conspiracy about CENTRALISING POWER. What did you do today to decentralise things away from the cabal?

 

and no blowing off steam on an internet forum doesn't count


just put the prick on ignore. He’s a troll or 77th or something. Look at his post count and his join date.  All he does is derail the thread and bury useful info. 

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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

they don't want what's best for people; they are complicit in the conspiracy

 

they want to go back to sleep. They are upset that they have been woken up. They want all the psychopathic corporate system gives them they just don't want to deal with the consequences

 

well the consequences are coming down the pipe now

 

But we're all complicit in some way, unless we're living in a bush somewhere and not contributing to the system,

 

Admittedly, some are more complicit than others.

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5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 They want all the psychopathic corporate system gives them they just don't want to deal with the consequences

 

they want the smart tech and the coca cola and the mcdonalds

 

they just don't want to deal with what happens when you feed the beast

 

they want all the goodies without the consequences

 

and they don't want you to make a connection between these things; it pisses them off when someone points to the connection because now it means that they actually have to do something other than shoot their mouth off

 

''oh we will have a protest then!!''

 

lol oh yeah? and how are your protests going? stopped the vaccine passports have you? stopped the roll out of the vaccines to the kids have you? keep banging your head against the brick wall and see where it gets you

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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

But we're all complicit in some way, unless we're living in a bush somewhere and not contributing to the system,

 

Admittedly, some are more complicit than others.

 

exactly

 

so isn't that the painful truth that we all need to confront now?

 

isn't that what we all need to now work our way out of?

 

isn't that the real 'awakening'? To see how this all happened and then to figure out how to opt out?

 

i just don't see protests getting us anywhere. The agenda just rolls on. No one is hitting them where it hurts (decentralising their power)

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25 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

exactly

 

so isn't that the painful truth that we all need to confront now?

 

isn't that what we all need to now work our way out of?

 

isn't that the real 'awakening'? To see how this all happened and then to figure out how to opt out?

 

i just don't see protests getting us anywhere. The agenda just rolls on. No one is hitting them where it hurts (decentralising their power)

 

I hear you, but I have been rejecting their poison for years prior to the Covid agenda.

 

I grow and try to eat healthy food when possible. I try to avoid mainstream entertainment, like Hollywood movies and mainstream music, and mainstream sports etc. I try to buy local British produce. I promote alt-tech when possible. The list goes on, but people will just think I'm a boring killjoy if I talk about my lifestyle.

 

I don't enjoy things that I once used to, so I guess I don't really have any issues as I don't feel like I'm missing out.

 

Some might argue that it's easy for me because I'm a traditionalist, I dunno.

 

My biggest guilty pleasure was video games, but even those I rarely play now, as people can probably tell as I'm always talking crap on forums instead.

 

I have pretty much had a giant detox, but it happened naturally the more I turned against the system that is against us.

 

Not really sure what the answer is for most. We're screwed while people still have their bread and circuses I think.

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@MacnamaraThe thing is I just can't see the majority opting for this as they don't see any of it as the enemy. Most people can't even be bothered to even look into to stuff or have the self respect to do so and I think ultimately they will opt for comfort. They like the fact they have been domesticated.  I'm guilty of using things for comfort to some extent. I'm typing on a smartphone now. 

 

The only way I can see us getting along is living parallel in some way. But that doesn't stop the freaks in davos from implementing these smart cities and having us eat bugs and count our calories on the smartphones. 

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4 minutes ago, Fluke said:

@MacnamaraThe thing is I just can't see the majority opting for this as they don't see any of it as the enemy. Most people can't even be bothered to even look into to stuff or have the self respect to do so and I think ultimately they will opt for comfort. They like the fact they have been domesticated.  I'm guilty of using things for comfort to some extent. I'm typing on a smartphone now. 

 

The only way I can see us getting along is living parallel in some way. But that doesn't stop the freaks in davos from implementing these smart cities and having us eat bugs and count our calories on the smartphones. 

 

It's a tough one.

 

If everyones tech suddenly switched off, I wonder what people would actually do to be honest. Like how long would they be staring at their phones, TVs, or computer screens waiting for them to come back on until they leave their houses to speak to their neighbors to see what the hell is going on?

 

That would be an interesting social experiment.

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@EnigmaticWorld same although I haven't grown anything this year which is my biggest regret. I have stocked up but I think growing season me food would have giving me some power over myself.

 

But it's been pretty natural and organic. No social media, not really a film person although got into them more recently but certainly can't think of any in the last 15 years. And I think how you did a few months back about football now. Just subversive types sabotaging everything.  

 

That's a positive in a way though. I think when the majority see authentic entertainment, or talent, or just genuine humanity they will gravitate to it naturally (the normies.) And i think the masses also feel something is deeply wrong even if it's not conciously. People might feel good and get their little orgasmic pleasure dopamine fix but in the end it's not fulfilling and leads a void in the end. 

 

Anyways I won't go off topic again but thought I'd add my two cents as it's a deeply troubling subject for all of us I think. When my phone contracts up I'm genuinely just going to go back to 2000 and get a Nokia. 

 

On the covid I am fearing another lockdown, people turning against us wound up by the mainstream media, and possible orchestrated food shortages. I'm seeing evidence of this now. And I took your advice enigmatic and brought loads of toilet roll. Also got some firewood. 

 

Been working out, chopping wood, getting the testorone pumping doing manly things when I get the time. 

 

 

 

 

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@EnigmaticWorld I would like to think people would get board games out and candles and start playing cards after a week or so. But that's just the romantic in me probably. I wouldn't want to be out and about when it first happens though. People would be having withdrawals and I bet deaths and violence go up. 

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Just now, Fluke said:

I wouldn't want to be out and about when it first happens though. People would be having withdrawals and I bet deaths and violence go up. 

 

So true unfortunately.

 

And even when the power is on, I can partly understand why people are becoming anti-social escapists.

 

Children are a good example. If I was a parent, I wouldn't want technology to be their babysitter, but then you look outside and things are becoming more hostile, so it's not always easy for parents to allow them to have the same freedom that we once did when we were young, especially for those living in cities. It must be a nightmare trying to keep children happy indoors when you don't want them roaming the streets.

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After having had the Dutch populous and its farmers exposed to over 18 
months of COVID media propaganda and a resulting harvest of 60+% of the 
Dutch getting "vaccinated", hence jabbed twice, the outgoing Rutte 
Administration, last weekend, out of the blue, felt suddenly brave 
enough to announce the complete expropriation of all Dutch farmlands 
from its farmers. The new Dutch Nazi rulers, whilest themselves 
officially decommissioned and relieved from their previous posts, still 
had the nerve to announce this new measure, as it was their only, 
within EU timetable available option, to meet the drastic nitrogen 
emissions reduction objectives. The same Governmental Science Institute 
which delivered the National COVID Case statistics, the RIVM 
(Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieu) i.e. National Institute 
for Health and Environment, completed its Nitrogen Emissions report 
during the summer of last year. In a extensive comprehensive front-page 
report, Dutch newspaper NRC was given the exclusive for this nefarious 
plan, while the winning political parties of the March 17, 2020 
National Elections after more than 170 days, had restarted formation 
attempts for a new Dutch Administration for the 3rd time :


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Now that many farmers sons and daughters have had their jabs i guess 
the moment for this treacherous government had arrived to commence 
stealing Dutch farmlands, the most exquisite commodity for sale one can 
imagine. Of course just like the COVID science and numbers were 
tweaked, the same was done with their nitrogen reports. Once the 
majority of the new farmland owners are recognized to be members of New 
World Order clubs and societies, who mostly are run and controlled by 
Bill Gates, Soros and the Chinese, the Dutch RIVM will then suddenly 
come to new insights regarding the NOx problems, and that there's 
actually no nitrogen problems at all. The new NWO farmers will then be 
allowed to run their farms at full throttle again, with no 
environmental restrictions at all.
Are the Dutch and Dutch farmers still able to put up a fight and make a 
stand ? The analysis of this is not easy. In a fight from man to man, 
the chances of a unvaxxed versus a vaxxed in hand to hand combat, with 
or without knives, look promising. The problem is that evil factions of 
government staff, military, police, who are into the plot, might 
themselves not be vaxxed at all. Although that might look troubling, 
the total number of unvaxxed on the good side still outweighs the 
governmental unvaxxed many many times.

-- 
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  [email protected] 

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Not sure if this has already been posted...but I dont think it has - Luc Montagnier the virologist who couldnt give Kary Mullis an example to support the the theory that AIDS was a virus ( as far as I remember)

 

New Evidence, Including a Sworn Affidavit From Prof. Luc A. Montagnier, Has Been Submitted to the International Criminal Court Alleging World Governments Are Complicit in Genocide and Crimes Against Humanity

 

https://www.australiannationalreview.com/state-of-affairs/new-evidence-including-a-sworn-affidavit-from-prof-luc-a-montagnier-has-been-submitted-to-the-international-criminal-court-alleging-world-governments-are-complicit-in-genocide-and-crimes-against-h/?fbclid=IwAR3HIwLNF5VfM10uayK66t3vnmkzNgPm8pwpUqhzAxb7EUomgYo7E2jTVHs

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22 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

Not sure if this has already been posted...but I dont think it has - Luc Montagnier the virologist who couldnt give Kary Mullis an example to support the the theory that AIDS was a virus ( as far as I remember)

 

New Evidence, Including a Sworn Affidavit From Prof. Luc A. Montagnier, Has Been Submitted to the International Criminal Court Alleging World Governments Are Complicit in Genocide and Crimes Against Humanity

 

https://www.australiannationalreview.com/state-of-affairs/new-evidence-including-a-sworn-affidavit-from-prof-luc-a-montagnier-has-been-submitted-to-the-international-criminal-court-alleging-world-governments-are-complicit-in-genocide-and-crimes-against-h/?fbclid=IwAR3HIwLNF5VfM10uayK66t3vnmkzNgPm8pwpUqhzAxb7EUomgYo7E2jTVHs

Interesting read, how true is this and if it’s true, then when’s justice coming? We’ve been waiting a good while for Reiner Fuellmich, I think he said first hearing was on 9th November. It just all feels too good to be true at this point, as I’m sure you can understand 

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36 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

Not sure if this has already been posted...but I dont think it has - Luc Montagnier the virologist who couldnt give Kary Mullis an example to support the the theory that AIDS was a virus ( as far as I remember)

 

New Evidence, Including a Sworn Affidavit From Prof. Luc A. Montagnier, Has Been Submitted to the International Criminal Court Alleging World Governments Are Complicit in Genocide and Crimes Against Humanity

 

https://www.australiannationalreview.com/state-of-affairs/new-evidence-including-a-sworn-affidavit-from-prof-luc-a-montagnier-has-been-submitted-to-the-international-criminal-court-alleging-world-governments-are-complicit-in-genocide-and-crimes-against-h/?fbclid=IwAR3HIwLNF5VfM10uayK66t3vnmkzNgPm8pwpUqhzAxb7EUomgYo7E2jTVHs

We must believe in this and do not allow doubt to dampen our spirit. 

 

I admit it does seem that the inhumane cants have demoralised us all this last month or so with their insane rabid desire to corruptly jab young kids and wave through the effing discriminatory convid passports but I think this is a glorious sign of hope and of justice.

 

The truth always comes out and the history books will have generations shaking their heads in disbelief and  utter horror at the sheer evilness of the atrocities committed but ultimately the comeuppance and fate of every single perpetrator and enabler of this abhorrent genocide will be signed sealed and delivered. 

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20 minutes ago, sambaking7 said:

 

Big Brother Watch is funded by George Soros' Open Society Foundation. They are not to be trusted. 

 

Proof is here:

 

Funding — Big Brother Watch

 

Interesting. I had a suspicion about Silkie Carlo ever since I noticed her on MSM outlets like RT. I didn't really read too much into it as I noticed others here sharing BBW tweets. The spider web is crazy.

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7 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Interesting. I had a suspicion about Silkie Carlo ever since I noticed her on MSM outlets like RT. I didn't really read too much into it as I noticed others here sharing BBW tweets. The spider web is crazy.

 

Feck, she used to work for this group too, which was founded by some sketchy characters.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_(advocacy_group)

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3 hours ago, Fluke said:

 

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On the covid I am fearing another lockdown, people turning against us wound up by the mainstream media, and possible orchestrated food shortages. I'm seeing evidence of this now. And I took your advice enigmatic and brought loads of toilet roll. Also got some firewood. 

 

Just to pick up on this point @Fluke . 

At the moment I'm not sure this is happening for whatever reason (and to be clear I'm not saying it won't happen). What I'm reading on forums is there seems to be a feeling of disbelief that they're not in a better position and they can't understand why they have not come through the tunnel after being such good sheep and doing as they're told. 

Now whether that translates into anger towards us is yet to be seen but I'm not sure they're going to be willing to roll up they're sleeves and take 3, 4, 5 jabs.

Disillusioned is a word I'd use to describe their mood.  

 

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6 minutes ago, Dazzer said:

Just to pick up on this point @Fluke . 

At the moment I'm not sure this is happening for whatever reason (and to be clear I'm not saying it won't happen). What I'm reading on forums is there seems to be a feeling of disbelief that they're not in a better position and they can't understand why they have not come through the tunnel after being such good sheep and doing as they're told. 

Now whether that translates into anger towards us is yet to be seen but I'm not sure they're going to be willing to roll up they're sleeves and take 3, 4, 5 jabs.

Disillusioned is a word I'd use to describe their mood.  

 

They might take a third, tops, but won't have any issue taking a monthly tablet. They have given their all and a dozen pills a year whilst enjoying the 'freedoms' that the unjabbed can't shall keep them satisfied that it was worth the headache and sore arm.

 

As for the dead - their voice has gone.

 

As for the millions that will die - that will be put down to a super-strain and also used as an incentive to get those pills down their necks.

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