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"Our state must learn from their mistakes and chart a course for hope. That requires leadership and a policy framework that supports a vaccine passport and supports workers and businesses who are doing the right thing and getting vaccinated to protect themselves and the community."

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/vaccine-passports-are-our-safe-passage-to-normal-life-ignore-your-mps-backlash-premier-20210902-p58o7e.html

 

Do vaccination passports take away freedoms? It depends on how you frame the question

https://theconversation.com/do-vaccination-passports-take-away-freedoms-it-depends-on-how-you-frame-the-question-166963

 

Where do they dig up these pieces of shit?

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25 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Rants about the dangers of authoritarians all of his life, then reveals himself to be authoritarian after all. Basically he just didn't like the idea of people protecting us from what they want to do to us.

 

Poale Zion Gatekeeper.

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1 hour ago, Dickwan said:

The calm before the storm eh.

 

I'm not in England mind you, but the covid fear drums are beating in Scotland - the Bumfaced Shrew (and her propoganda monsters) are priming us for more authoratarian over-reach 

I spent over 25 years working in Scotland,i feel your pain and although safely back in my native country i dread to think what 'restrictions' i'd be under if i was still working there and flying o/shore every 2 weeks

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13 hours ago, skitzorat said:

Even DI gets a mention on NZ MSN! 🥳

 

Oh and there's even a Maori ANTIFA! - who knew! lolz

 

New Zealand protestor Karen Brewer's chilling threat as expert warns risk of anti-vaccination terrorism is real

Conspiracy theorists who believe networks of communists, pedophiles and Freemasons are using COVID vaccinations to carry out a worldwide depopulation campaign are calling for a coup and the mass execution of "traitors" in New Zealand.

While these remain fringe beliefs, these activist groups are becoming increasingly militant - and a legal expert warns we need to take the threat of anti-vaccination terrorism seriously.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/new-zealand-protestor-karen-brewer-s-chilling-threat-as-expert-warns-risk-of-anti-vaccination-terrorism-is-real.html

One of the few people out there with guts . Sadly she will be portrayed as a nit case conspiracy terrorist .Such a pity the people of New Zealand and Australia cant see that its their own Governments who are making "chilling threats " on a daily basis .

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4 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Chomsky was never my hero, but I hear ya.

 

I think there might have been some genuine heroes, but they likely sold out like cowards. The intelligentsia is definitely full of bad apples. Anyone with honour and honest principles probably gets murdered before they can reach a certain level of influence.

 

Not sure how long things have been like that, probably since WW2 I would imagine, because there is more honesty in books before then, in the days when people understood who is messing with society more. Now we have cultural amnesia and have forgot who we have been at war with for millennia.

And their income streams are dependent on following the current of the time,every man/woman has their price,some are cheaper than others

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14 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

Just ask who she'd rather listen to - Her Heart or her head.

That sounds like a tremendously rewarding job and you're more valuable to society than any CEO or satanic bankster.

Thanks Nobby, much appreciated, and that's good advice. A lot of our clients are very intelligent, but they are slaves to routine, and trust the advice (/instructions) of 'professionals' implicitly.

I have one young man I take to the football (Hibs) every home game. We both enjoy it, but if our disgusting First Minister gets her way then I'll have to give my apologies as I haven't had the death jabs. Like many folk have posted, the net is closing around healthcare workers - no jab no job. I'll stay with it until I'm prohibited (ie sacked) but that seems to be what they want.

 

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5 minutes ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

It probably wouldn't .Personally i feel sorry for small businesses that have been shut down for a long time now and the fact the the NSW Govt intends to use hairdressers as some kind of testing ground for a pseudo vaccination pass .These people want to stay in business but are being coerced into implementing directives that will alienate a portion of their customers ,many of who they may have had relationship with for years . But in the end their own survival will triumph if they want to earn a living .

The only ones who will take a stand are the business owners who themselves are unvaxxed and dont expect their customers to be and even they will be under pressure to conform .

 

It's all by design. Great Reset in action. They know small business is already almost dead. This will just finish it off.

 

And imagine when all those people who now took their jabs #1 and #2 thinking it would all be over after that, when they start getting ordered to take their third jab, fourth jab, etc. At some point, even they will realise they have been scammed and will join the anti-vaxx crowd and boycott businesses forcing the boosters.

 

But by that point I think we will already be dealing with full scale riots anyway so it will all be burning.

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3 minutes ago, SuperstarNeilC said:

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It's actually worth seriously looking into the bahaviour of animals in all this. Cats have always struck me as very sentient beautiful creatures. Something godly about them. I always seem to attract cats but last year I vividly remember during the height of lockdown hysteria cats approaching me on the street almost daily. 

 

I wonder if it's something to do with solar activity or an upcoming crisis that animals seem to sense. 

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4 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said:

And their income streams are dependent on following the current of the time,every man/woman has their price,some are cheaper than others

 

Michael Parenti. I don't think he ever sold out. He's the real deal. Fuck Chomsky.

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3 hours ago, skitzorat said:

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All this kind of thing assumes that every adult has a mobile phone and one that supports this kind of technology .Not everyone does have a mobile and some have chosen to have simple version precisely to avoid this kind of technology and things like scanning QR codes  .Are Governments now going to supply up to date mobile phones to everyone now ?

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24 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

And so it starts ............

 

 

In the space of 10 days i will have had a chest xray and an mri scan done,the service i received from the nhs was astounding,20 years ago i had to have both done and it was done under private medical insurance and took 4 times as long just to get the mri ,plus the hospital xray department was empty when i turned up.

Somethings happening that doesn't add up

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3 minutes ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

All this kind of thing assumes that every adult has a mobile phone and one that supports this kind of technology .Not everyone does have a mobile and some have chosen to have simple version precisely to avoid this kind of technology and things like scanning QR codes  .Are Governments now going to supply up to date mobile phones to everyone now ?

 

It won't be voluntary. You will have to own one. Or if you don't, the state will issue one to you.

 

I can already see this happening. I've seen older people without phones refused entry and told they need to have one.

 

It's happening already.

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6 minutes ago, Fluke said:

It's actually worth seriously looking into the bahaviour of animals in all this. Cats have always struck me as very sentient beautiful creatures. Something godly about them. I always seem to attract cats but last year I vividly remember during the height of lockdown hysteria cats approaching me on the street almost daily. 

 

I wonder if it's something to do with solar activity or an upcoming crisis that animals seem to sense. 

They are warning you

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2 hours ago, DarianF said:

 

There will be a lot more homeless soon.

I have a relative who is iv a very precarious situation from a health and financial point of view .He doesnt want to have the jab and is so unwell it would probably kill him .He has been homeless before but now has a place to live .But it concerns me what will happen if his Govt benefits are stopped for refusing the jab .

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1 minute ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

I have a relative who is iv a very precarious situation from a health and financial point of view .He doesnt want to have the jab and is so unwell it would probably kill him .He has been homeless before but now has a place to live .But it concerns me what will happen if his Govt benefits are stopped for refusing the jab .

 

I know a few people who have already disappeared out bush. They know what's coming. They will survive longer than us, but they will eventually be hunted down.

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3 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

It won't be voluntary. You will have to own one. Or if you don't, the state will issue one to you.

 

I can already see this happening. I've seen older people without phones refused entry and told they need to have one.

 

It's happening already.

yes ,my husband saw an elderly man refused entry to a shop the other day even though they are obligated at present to provide a manual way of taking details or having someone put them into an ipad as lot seem to do .

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The key to success in warfare is innovation and that innovation does not have to involve technical superiority. Success is innovative strategy, it's about doing something in a new way which the enemy cannot adapt to and then react to in sufficient time.

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2 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

I know a few people who have already disappeared out bush. They know what's coming. They will survive longer than us, but they will eventually be hunted down.

sadly he is too sick to try that .i have already provided him with documents for refusing the jab and I think with his health issues and history of a clotting disorder he would have very good grounds for refusing .

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4 minutes ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

All this kind of thing assumes that every adult has a mobile phone and one that supports this kind of technology .Not everyone does have a mobile and some have chosen to have simple version precisely to avoid this kind of technology and things like scanning QR codes  .Are Governments now going to supply up to date mobile phones to everyone now ?

Queue the bandwagon jumpers vying for government contracts for those bereft of phones that will work for the coming surveillance state,huge income stream there,chopped down phone like those doro things that only does the basics to enable the older folk to be spied on too but at the same time works with gubmint mandated apps

 

The likes of Apple and Samsung must be creaming their pants

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On 8/30/2021 at 7:22 PM, moneyistheroot said:

I certainly would not, but housing is, or should be a basic human right, not a commodity to be traded and profiteered on the back of other people’s misery, as you see in the UK.

 

Hmmm. Many private landlords haven't raised rents for 10+ years. They have to keep properties at a higher standard (EPC etc) than social housing and can be fined when tenants misbehave - often up to 5 figures. In many areas they have to pay the local council for the joy of allowing someone to rent a home. Tenants can get away with not paying rent, anti-social behaviour and trashing property and it still takes a minimum of 5 months (nearer a year since covid) to get rid of them, and they never have to pay for their sins (unless landlord is really lucky and they are earning enough to pay for CCJ or have a guarantor who is). Would you take a chance on a tenant in those circumstances  or would you price the property out of the range of those who might be dodgy (eg on benefits or poorly paid) and go only for those with really, really good references and a house-owning guarantor to sue? If rent controls come in, they generally contain an annual cost of living adjustment so you'd actually see rents go up every year, Everything that Shelter and GR do allegedly to "help" tenants actually makes them worse off.

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The key to success in warfare is innovation and that innovation does not have to involve technical superiority. Success is innovative strategy, it's about doing something in a new way which the enemy cannot adapt to and then react to in sufficient time.

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2 minutes ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

yes ,my husband saw an elderly man refused entry to a shop the other day even though they are obligated at present to provide a manual way of taking details or having someone put them into an ipad as lot seem to do .

 

Here's my prediction. They will eventually spin it like this: "It's discrimination against older and disadvantaged Australians that they don't have access to smart phones, so the Australian Government is launching a scheme to ensure every Australian has equal access to smart phones."

 

Just like getting laptops to all Aussie school kids.

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