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8 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

 

From Canada to Germany in lockstep  “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy.”

 

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What is the problem with things like this, exactly? It’s about time they dropped something similar over here, for years us normal people have had to suffer poor housing stock, slum landlords and property developers keeping supply low and rents/prices high. Look at the mess we’re in now with how much has been wasted with this Covid nonsense, who’s going to foot the bill? The working man of course, the people at the bottom. We are not heading for communism, we are heading for ultra capitalism as we have been ever since that old hag in the 80s set the ball rolling.

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1 minute ago, moneyistheroot said:

What is the problem with things like this, exactly? It’s about time they dropped something similar over here, for years us normal people have had to suffer poor housing stock, slum landlords and property developers keeping supply low and rents/prices high. Look at the mess we’re in now with how much has been wasted with this Covid nonsense, who’s going to foot the bill? The working man of course, the people at the bottom. We are not heading for communism, we are heading for ultra capitalism as we have been ever since that old hag in the 80s set the ball rolling.

 

They can find housing for newcomers when they need to though. Caps and Coms are two sides of the same coin too.

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Gunma latest prefecture to find contaminants in Moderna vaccine

Aug. 30 06:29 am JST 33 Comments
 

TOKYO

The Gunma prefectural government said Sunday that foreign substances were discovered in Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine, the latest in a series of contaminants in the company's product reported in Japan over the past several days.

Blackish foreign matter, less than 0.5 millimeters in size, was spotted during pre-inoculation inspections in a vial that has a different lot number from those of the three lots suspended Thursday for use and another found Saturday in Okinawa containing black and pink substances.

About 4,500 people received shots in Gunma under the lot number over the three days through Sunday but no cases of ill health have been reported, the local government said.

Gunma becomes the seventh prefecture to report the discovery of foreign matter in the Moderna vaccine following Ibaraki, Saitama, Tokyo, Gifu, Aichi and Okinawa.

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4 minutes ago, moneyistheroot said:

What is the problem with things like this, exactly?

Going by your username, you would defend the State taking your stuff.

5 minutes ago, moneyistheroot said:

We are not heading for communism, we are heading for ultra capitalism

 

Private-Public Partnership is the terminology they're throwing around as a euphemism for our New Normal where we will own nothing and be happy happy about it.

 

Private being BlackRock and Public being The State. - Mussolini's fascism, Chinas communism - call it what you want, but it's certainly not "ultra" capitalism (whatever that is)

 

 

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4 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Going by your username, you would defend the State taking your stuff.

 

Private-Public Partnership is the terminology they're throwing around as a euphemism for our New Normal where we will own nothing and be happy happy about it.

 

Private being BlackRock and Public being The State. - Mussolini's fascism, Chinas communism - call it what you want, but it's certainly not "ultra" capitalism (whatever that is)

 

 

thats it.

Owning nothing means no property. Our bodies and our kids are our property

even marriage declares that husband and wife own each other. TO HAVE AND TO HOLD

 

its not just money, houses, cars. Its our bodies and kids

 

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1 minute ago, skitzorat said:

Going by your username, you would defend the State taking your stuff.

 

Private-Public Partnership is the terminology they're throwing around as a euphemism for our New Normal where we will own nothing and be happy happy about it.

 

Private being BlackRock and Public being The State. - Mussolini's fascism, Chinas communism - call it what you want, but it's certainly not "ultra" capitalism (whatever that is)

 

 

I certainly would not, but housing is, or should be a basic human right, not a commodity to be traded and profiteered on the back of other people’s misery, as you see in the UK.
 

Communism and capitalism in their purest forms are not good ideologies, there has to be some sort of ‘hybrid’ or crossover where private individuals can thrive but not to the detriment of others, I don’t think that’s a crazy idea, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m happy to watch ‘the state take all my stuff’ 

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1 minute ago, zArk said:

thats it.

Owning nothing means no property. Our bodies and our kids are our property

even marriage declares that husband and wife own each other. TO HAVE AND TO HOLD

 

its not just money, houses, cars. Its our bodies and kids

 

and soul

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1 minute ago, moneyistheroot said:

Communism and capitalism in their purest forms are not good ideologies

 

communism is the ideology that the government owns all property

 

people are defunct. Citizens only exist. Subject to the State. The State is the ultimate Authority 

 

hence the body count for Communism. No matter the religious basis of the country and the previous political system Communism destroys. The body count for Communism a relatively new form of Governance is incredibly horrific.

 

Soviet. Vietnam, Cambodia, China, North Korea, Afghans, Latin America, attached States of USSR, horrific death toll not because of the staff but because of the ethos.

People are worthless in Communism, the philosophy is everything.

 

Capitalism requires private property. It is integral to it.  private property pre-exists Capitalism.

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

 

 

 

 

I wonder what aerosols it is referring to, lynx? Chem trails? Either way, utterances of complete shite from this one. Check this out for a closing line:

 

"And if you're infected, you will be making the air unsafe for others."

 

Basically you breathing is putting others at risk. FML. 🤦

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52 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Probably 240k fake signatories, did they use Dominion?

Truly think that in next few years we will pay 1000 rent. I'm not for nationalization but there should be some control over rents. It's getting ridiculous... 🥴

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1 minute ago, moneyistheroot said:

but housing is, or should be a basic human right, not a commodity to be traded and profiteered on the back of other people’s misery,

I've never owned a house because I knew by the time I was 18 in the yer 2000 I would never be able to afford one and decided to spend my money on travelling the world and partying instead during my younger years- which I'm very glad I did, however my parents have always owned our homes and they traded and profiteered of the backs of them - and rightly so - it was their blood sweat and tears that paid for it, not some strangers misery....

 

Oh wont somebody think of the children victimisation is same mentality that's being rolled out and drummed into humanity's head re; jab/staying at home... and it doesn't cut it with me. Sorry - we don't live in the East where "collectivism" is in their DNA. "Communitarism" is a dark road we're travelling down now where parents are signing their babies up to be experimented on under the guise of "doing the right thing for us all" and it makes my blood boil.

 

8 minutes ago, moneyistheroot said:

Communism and capitalism in their purest forms are not good ideologies, there has to be some sort of ‘hybrid’ or crossover where private individuals can thrive but not to the detriment of others, I don’t think that’s a crazy idea,

 

Everything we now enjoy in the modern world was bought about through capitalism, to which I'm grateful.

The way you equate communism "in its purest form" with Capitalism not being good ideologies just smells like you're one of those commies who's still crying "socialism just hasn't been done right! it will work, this time!!" - a crypto-commie if you will.

 

12 minutes ago, moneyistheroot said:

there has to be some sort of ‘hybrid’ or crossover where private individuals can thrive but not to the detriment of others,

 

I agree with some state intervention, a bottom line their citizens shouldn't fall below; education, healthcare, putting a max price on common pharmaceuticals (NZvsUSA for example) but if people don't want to better themselves there's NOTHING the State can do about that and other individuals shouldn't be made to cry over it.

 

Private individuals have always (until late) been able to thrive - should they want to. My friend Peter was bought up by a solo mum on state benefits and can hardly read and write but he now owns and runs his own successful café in Brisband - he could have become another statistic of intergenerational welfare dependency, but he's not... because he didn't want to be...and as an aside, he gets angry at welfare benefits! whereas I, who grew up with parents who were high earning self employed, dont...make of that what you will.

 

 

 

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With the chaos in Afghanistan and the Taliban in control, as reported by the MSM, why are we still getting daily COVID cases and deaths being reported there?   For example, on Worldometers it has 76 COVID cases and 2 deaths for today 30/08/21.  Yesterday it was 111 cases and 7 deaths.

 

Afghanistan CV page figures/charts, which runs a day behind.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/afghanistan/

 

The main Worldometers CV page.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

kabul-peoplefallingplane-1629105876-1629

 

COVID deaths?

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2 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

communism is the ideology that the government owns all property

 

people are defunct. Citizens only exist. Subject to the State. The State is the ultimate Authority 

 

hence the body count for Communism. No matter the religious basis of the country and the previous political system Communism destroys. The body count for Communism a relatively new form of Governance is incredibly horrific.

 

Soviet. Vietnam, Cambodia, China, North Korea, Afghans, Latin America, attached States of USSR, horrific death toll not because of the staff but because of the ethos.

People are worthless in Communism, the philosophy is everything.

 

Capitalism requires private property. It is integral to it.  private property pre-exists Capitalism.

 

 

 

Communism by definition is that the people / the workers own the means of production / property and it is distributed accordingly based on ability, contribution and needs. Your definition is not wrong as such but in a pure communist state, ‘the government’ would be the people

 

To the best of my knowledge, no state exists or has existed where this has been the case (a state ruled by the above definition) though I am happy for you to prove me wrong.

 

I totally understand when people say, oh it’s a communist agenda, but equally you could argue it’s a capitalist agenda. Look at who really rules the world - shithouses like the Rothschilds, Gates, Soros, Bezos - are they commies? I believe that we are heading towards what we have been for the past 30-40 years, Covid has helped accelerate the plan but it was in the pipes for years anyway. Look at all our once great industries that were publicly owned, our cheap housing, our welfare state, our education system, all sold off for a tidy profit for a select few and of no benefit to us, the working and middle classes. Look at all the money pissed up the wall now during lockdowns by the government, who’s gonna pay for it now and why did the richest people in the world all see their wealth increase? 
 

things now have not been this bad for a long time, soon there won’t be any assets, any private property, not because of a communistic agenda, but because it will all go into the hands of the select few - capitalist - people who rule the land.

 

I won’t get into arguments about it or discuss it too much anyway- at the end of the day, we are all in this thread for the same reason- being against this Covid bollocks and share the same views on it- one thing I often think now it’s not about left vs right anymore, as the lines have been blurred too much anyway (just more divide and rule bullshit), it’s just a case of right vs wrong, and we all see clearly what is happening in the world currently, is totally wrong. I respect your opinion fully.

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3 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

Sounds like what they’ve been waiting for, or planning. Take you’re pick😁

Noticed for a while the internets been playing up, not just home wifi but mobile data too, and seeing many different big websites going down at the same time (think it’s been in the news too). That’s definitely their next step. Think they’ve been testing the waters. Shut down any communication between people, and blame it on an ‘outage’ lol

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Just now, moneyistheroot said:

Noticed for a while the internets been playing up, not just home wifi but mobile data too, and seeing many different big websites going down at the same time (think it’s been in the news too). That’s definitely their next step. Think they’ve been testing the waters. Shut down any communication between people, and blame it on an ‘outage’ lol

Mines always screwing with me. Reckon it doesn’t like me reading non MSM stuff!

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