Coronavirus Mega-Thread.

[Number6]

Our mate Hellgates back in the news again:

 

Link: https://www.rt.com/usa/502742-bill-gates-vaccine-rollout-hesitancy/

 

Round up the ‘anti-vaxxers’? Enlist religious leaders? Bill Gates warns US needs to brainstorm ways to reduce ‘vaccine hesitancy’

Billionaire software tycoon Bill Gates has urged the US to prepare for a Covid-19 vaccine rollout by deputizing trusted community leaders to “reduce vaccine hesitancy,” bemoaning the rapid spread of “conspiracy theories” online.

The Microsoft founder-turned-vaccine-evangelist painted a mostly rosy picture of a vaccine rollout getting “rich countries” back to normal by the end of 2021 in an interview during the Wall Street Journal’s CEO Council on Tuesday.

However, with less than half of Americans saying they’d get a Covid jab – even if paid $100 for it – in a recent survey, Gates then focused his talk on enlisting the nation’s “trust network” to overcome the skeptics.

 

Lamenting that “vaccine hesitancy is in all countries and predates the pandemic,” Gates suggested American health officials start “thinking about which voices will help reduce the hesitancy, so we can get a level of vaccination that really has a chance of stopping” the virus.

Gates provided the example of challenges the polio vaccine faced in some countries – and the cunning lengths some were willing to go to get their populations jabbed.

 

Coronavirus czar Anthony Fauci hinted back in June that he was already on the task, revealing the government had a PR blitz planned in which “people [vaccine-hesitant Americans] can relate to in the community – sports figures, community heroes, people that they look up to” – will spread the pro-vaccine gospel.

Gates had typically harsh words for both conspiracy theorists and the social media platforms he believes enable them, complaining that “very titillating things” like the notion that “somebody intentionally made this virus, or that there’s some conspiracy” spread online “so much faster than the truth, which is that it comes from a bat.” Gates called on social media to “slow down or annotate things that actually cause huge damage, like not wearing masks or not being willing to take the vaccine if it proves that it is this key tool to getting back to normal.”

 

While he stressed he wasn’t suggesting Facebook and its peers go for “the Chinese solution” of telling companies what they must censor, the billionaire has previously called conspiracy theories about his funding of global vaccination schemes “a big problem,” and on Tuesday he slammed platforms for the absence of “smart solutions” to that problem.

Gates saved some barbs for the Trump administration, disparaging the government’s preparation for and response to the pandemic, accusing it of creating a “vacuum of leadership” by pulling out of the World Health Organization. Among other failings, “we didn’t do [pandemic] simulations” like some countries, he complained, referencing his now-famous 2015 TED Talk about the importance of comprehensive state-level planning for epidemics.

However, his Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation actually staged one of the best-known pandemic simulations, Event 201, in conjunction with the World Economic Forum and Johns Hopkins University in New York last October. The barely-fictional scenario involved a deadly coronavirus originating in geese spreading around the world, devastating economies and triggering the imposition of strict behavioral controls while leaving a trail of 65 million bodies in its wake. The narrative was so close to the subsequent outbreak of the novel coronavirus that Johns Hopkins was forced to include a disclaimer on the event website.

Indeed, the US government has run several such simulations in conjunction with representatives of local governments, hospitals, and various other private sector interests over the years. “Crimson Contagion,” one such exercise held from January to August last year, predicted the US would respond in a chaotic and disorganized fashion to an outbreak, exposing weaknesses that were apparently not remedied in time for Covid-19. A 2017 Pentagon report similarly warned that a “novel respiratory disease” emanating from, among other places, a Chinese wet market could spread throughout the world, hurting the military’s readiness and national security for as long as two years and prescribing correctives – which apparently fell on deaf ears.

Gates has previously warned that the “final hurdle” to a vaccine-fueled return to normalcy is convincing the population to actually roll up their sleeves and take the jab(s), and the World Health Organization – of which his foundation is the single largest funder, following the US’ departure – declared “vaccine hesitancy” one of the biggest threats to world health last year. The billionaire has stated he hopes to have seven billion humans vaccinated with whatever formula proves safe and effective, but has suggested a mandate would be counterproductive and actually increase resistance to vaccines.

 

Gates is far from the only voice urging governments to soft-pedal their inoculation demands. Noting that a straight-up mandate would probably be challenged and nullified in court, a paper published earlier this month in the New England Journal of Medicine instead suggested at-risk populations be threatened with “penalties” like job loss for failure to get vaccinated. Australian PM Scott Morrison similarly had to walk back comments that vaccination should be “as mandatory as possible” after intense public outcry, and US President Donald Trump has promised the shot will be optional even as he tasked the military with delivering it.

Gates is funding the development of six leading Covid-19 vaccine candidates, and told the conference Phase III clinical trial data would be in before the year’s end. Acknowledging “we still don’t know whether these vaccines will succeed,” he nevertheless pooh-poohed Russian and Chinese vaccine development efforts, predicting that once ‘his’ – the Western – jabs were widely available at low cost, “I doubt there will be a lot of Russian or Chinese vaccine going outside these countries.”

 

He's obsessed with vaccines isn't he? 

 

[Number6]

Crimson Contagion full NYT Link, includes pdf of the exercise, apologies if this has already been posted:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html

 

Before Virus Outbreak, a Cascade of Warnings Went Unheeded

Government exercises, including one last year, made clear that the U.S. was not ready for a pandemic like the coronavirus. But little was done.

 

WASHINGTON — The outbreak of the respiratory virus began in China and was quickly spread around the world by air travelers, who ran high fevers. In the United States, it was first detected in Chicago, and 47 days later, the World Health Organization declared a pandemic. By then it was too late: 110 million Americans were expected to become ill, leading to 7.7 million hospitalized and 586,000 dead.

That scenario, code-named “Crimson Contagion” and imagining an influenza pandemic, was simulated by the Trump administration’s Department of Health and Human Services in a series of exercises that ran from last January to August.

The simulation’s sobering results — contained in a draft report dated October 2019 that has not previously been reported — drove home just how underfunded, underprepared and uncoordinated the federal government would be for a life-or-death battle with a virus for which no treatment existed.

 

The draft report, marked “not to be disclosed,” laid out in stark detail repeated cases of “confusion” in the exercise. Federal agencies jockeyed over who was in charge. State officials and hospitals struggled to figure out what kind of equipment was stockpiled or available. Cities and states went their own ways on school closings.

[Illmatic]

9 hours ago, zarkov said:

 

I suspect that there will be more of us than you think. people are not only scared of thinking what cant be true, they are scared of admitting it to themselves. They suspect it then they suppress those thoughts - there are millions in denial here in the UK and worldwide but a lifetime of conformity from the cradle does that. Collectively we are not meant to live life in a box, ridiculed and ostracised for thinking freely, questioning things around us. That is spirit and we all have it. Thats what life is.

Life means hope and opportunity occurs wherever it exists. where there is no life there is no opportunty and there are around 6 billion hopeful lves. you cant trust Lockheed martin to conduct a non biasesd census can you.

 

Yeah that's what it's all about, you see masks all around you and think everyone is bought into it but when you actually talk to people most know that its bollocks, they're just afraid to say it and get in an argument.

 

Ive been travelling the last two months and have met a lot of people, the majority I have spoken to are either against it or have some questions at least. A lot will mention something like "the cases are getting really bad now" because they think that's safer to say but when you keep talking and reveal you're not in support of it they'll reveal that they're not either.

 

Its the magic trick this mask wearing and hand washing does, to many members of this forum also. Most people just don't want to break the law, they can see through the bullshit but don't want to be ostracised. Yes there are well-conditioned zombies who think this is all fine and the authorities are just looking out for us, but I think in reality they're increasingly the minority. 

Edited October 7, 2020 by Illmatic

[Foggy Dewhurst]

16 minutes ago, Number6 said:

Our mate Hellgates back in the news again:

 

Link: https://www.rt.com/usa/502742-bill-gates-vaccine-rollout-hesitancy/

 

Round up the ‘anti-vaxxers’? Enlist religious leaders? Bill Gates warns US needs to brainstorm ways to reduce ‘vaccine hesitancy’

Billionaire software tycoon Bill Gates has urged the US to prepare for a Covid-19 vaccine rollout by deputizing trusted community leaders to “reduce vaccine hesitancy,” bemoaning the rapid spread of “conspiracy theories” online.

The Microsoft founder-turned-vaccine-evangelist painted a mostly rosy picture of a vaccine rollout getting “rich countries” back to normal by the end of 2021 in an interview during the Wall Street Journal’s CEO Council on Tuesday.

However, with less than half of Americans saying they’d get a Covid jab – even if paid $100 for it – in a recent survey, Gates then focused his talk on enlisting the nation’s “trust network” to overcome the skeptics.

 

Lamenting that “vaccine hesitancy is in all countries and predates the pandemic,” Gates suggested American health officials start “thinking about which voices will help reduce the hesitancy, so we can get a level of vaccination that really has a chance of stopping” the virus.

Gates provided the example of challenges the polio vaccine faced in some countries – and the cunning lengths some were willing to go to get their populations jabbed.

 

Coronavirus czar Anthony Fauci hinted back in June that he was already on the task, revealing the government had a PR blitz planned in which “people [vaccine-hesitant Americans] can relate to in the community – sports figures, community heroes, people that they look up to” – will spread the pro-vaccine gospel.

Gates had typically harsh words for both conspiracy theorists and the social media platforms he believes enable them, complaining that “very titillating things” like the notion that “somebody intentionally made this virus, or that there’s some conspiracy” spread online “so much faster than the truth, which is that it comes from a bat.” Gates called on social media to “slow down or annotate things that actually cause huge damage, like not wearing masks or not being willing to take the vaccine if it proves that it is this key tool to getting back to normal.”

 

While he stressed he wasn’t suggesting Facebook and its peers go for “the Chinese solution” of telling companies what they must censor, the billionaire has previously called conspiracy theories about his funding of global vaccination schemes “a big problem,” and on Tuesday he slammed platforms for the absence of “smart solutions” to that problem.

Gates saved some barbs for the Trump administration, disparaging the government’s preparation for and response to the pandemic, accusing it of creating a “vacuum of leadership” by pulling out of the World Health Organization. Among other failings, “we didn’t do [pandemic] simulations” like some countries, he complained, referencing his now-famous 2015 TED Talk about the importance of comprehensive state-level planning for epidemics.

However, his Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation actually staged one of the best-known pandemic simulations, Event 201, in conjunction with the World Economic Forum and Johns Hopkins University in New York last October. The barely-fictional scenario involved a deadly coronavirus originating in geese spreading around the world, devastating economies and triggering the imposition of strict behavioral controls while leaving a trail of 65 million bodies in its wake. The narrative was so close to the subsequent outbreak of the novel coronavirus that Johns Hopkins was forced to include a disclaimer on the event website.

Indeed, the US government has run several such simulations in conjunction with representatives of local governments, hospitals, and various other private sector interests over the years. “Crimson Contagion,” one such exercise held from January to August last year, predicted the US would respond in a chaotic and disorganized fashion to an outbreak, exposing weaknesses that were apparently not remedied in time for Covid-19. A 2017 Pentagon report similarly warned that a “novel respiratory disease” emanating from, among other places, a Chinese wet market could spread throughout the world, hurting the military’s readiness and national security for as long as two years and prescribing correctives – which apparently fell on deaf ears.

Gates has previously warned that the “final hurdle” to a vaccine-fueled return to normalcy is convincing the population to actually roll up their sleeves and take the jab(s), and the World Health Organization – of which his foundation is the single largest funder, following the US’ departure – declared “vaccine hesitancy” one of the biggest threats to world health last year. The billionaire has stated he hopes to have seven billion humans vaccinated with whatever formula proves safe and effective, but has suggested a mandate would be counterproductive and actually increase resistance to vaccines.

 

Gates is far from the only voice urging governments to soft-pedal their inoculation demands. Noting that a straight-up mandate would probably be challenged and nullified in court, a paper published earlier this month in the New England Journal of Medicine instead suggested at-risk populations be threatened with “penalties” like job loss for failure to get vaccinated. Australian PM Scott Morrison similarly had to walk back comments that vaccination should be “as mandatory as possible” after intense public outcry, and US President Donald Trump has promised the shot will be optional even as he tasked the military with delivering it.

Gates is funding the development of six leading Covid-19 vaccine candidates, and told the conference Phase III clinical trial data would be in before the year’s end. Acknowledging “we still don’t know whether these vaccines will succeed,” he nevertheless pooh-poohed Russian and Chinese vaccine development efforts, predicting that once ‘his’ – the Western – jabs were widely available at low cost, “I doubt there will be a lot of Russian or Chinese vaccine going outside these countries.”

 

He's obsessed with vaccines isn't he? 

 

Yes he is obsessed,to the point where I question his ultimate motive.

We know he wants to genetically modify everyone and thus turn us into 'property' but I suspect another motive.

I remember reading about one infertility expert who was using his own sperm instead of donors and had created many children that were 'his' until he was found out.

That is some sick mindset,but hard as it is to believe,such psychopathic behaviour exists and Gates seems similarly egotistical.

I believe he has a God Complex and he intends to use his own DNA in his concoction - his ultimate fantasy to have all people contain his DNA?

 

 

 

 

 

[Illmatic]

5 minutes ago, Foggy Dewhurst said:

Yes he is obsessed,to the point where I question his ultimate motive.

We know he wants to genetically modify everyone and thus turn us into 'property' but I suspect another motive.

I remember reading about one infertility expert who was using his own sperm instead of donors and had created many children that were 'his' until he was found out.

That is some sick mindset,but hard as it is to believe,such psychopathic behaviour exists and Gates seems similarly egotistical.

I believe he has a God Complex and he intends to use his own DNA in his concoction - his ultimate fantasy to have all people contain his DNA?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah it has a sexual element I suspect. Gaining back some control he didn't have in childhood, maybe some kind of dom fantasy. But who knows, the only certainty is he is nuts

[shadowmoon]

9 minutes ago, Foggy Dewhurst said:

Yes he is obsessed,to the point where I question his ultimate motive.

We know he wants to genetically modify everyone and thus turn us into 'property' but I suspect another motive.

I remember reading about one infertility expert who was using his own sperm instead of donors and had created many children that were 'his' until he was found out.

That is some sick mindset,but hard as it is to believe,such psychopathic behaviour exists and Gates seems similarly egotistical.

I believe he has a God Complex and he intends to use his own DNA in his concoction - his ultimate fantasy to have all people contain his DNA?

 

 

 

 

 

Refuse vaccine, bankrupt that dirty mofo gates.

[bamboozooka]

community leaders are complicit.

sons class had a zoom with local vicar. was spouting the "you're a selfish prick if you don't wear a mask" line.

 

a class also performed a poem. you will never guess the title

"no breathing in class"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1cfVQyrQ3Q

 

something major fucked up in society

[sickofallthebollocks]

1 hour ago, shadowmoon said:

Saturday 17th march by standupX. I've  been reading elsewhere that the football lads and many other groups are attending in huge numbers and ready for a big fight against the police..

 

"This will make the poll tax riots look tiny." was one thing I read. 

 

If this happens I can see why, but it is a shame what the police did to the peaceful  protests since june, while letting the statue smashers do as they wanted all along.

I was speaking with a woman who went to the london protests on 26th sept, she was pretty clued up about the whole situation and what went down on that day.
She said the so-called 'police' who went in heavy handed were nothing but drafted in security men - just your regular doormen and security staff -  just bloody temps basically, that's part of the reason alot of them look so unkept and scruffy and kept absolutely quiet (on the day) when questioned by anyone - they were not actual police and didn't have a clue about the law, despite being given powers of arrest like a proper policeman or woman, even though they have the 'powers' of a police person on the day, apparently, unde rthe new coranavirus laws they cannot be sued like a bona-fide policeman can be.

 

[bamboozooka]

[Mr H]

1 hour ago, Illmatic said:

Does anyone know where I can find more information about the Berlin protests this weekend? Heiko Schoning mentioned them in his arrest video but theres obviously nothing about it on the usual channels.

 

Judging by this sudden "spike" and further restrictions in Berlin I imagine they could be quite large.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

My sister lives in Munich. She came over at the weekend and was completely unaware that there had been any major protest in Germany about Co-Vid 19. So yeah deffo not exactly widely reported!

[shadowmoon]

23 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

I was speaking with a woman who went to the london protests on 26th sept, she was pretty clued up about the whole situation and what went down on that day.
She said the so-called 'police' who went in heavy handed were nothing but drafted in security men - just your regular doormen and security staff -  just bloody temps basically, that's part of the reason alot of them look so unkept and scruffy and kept absolutely quiet (on the day) when questioned by anyone - they were not actual police and didn't have a clue about the law, despite being given powers of arrest like a proper policeman or woman, even though they have the 'powers' of a police person on the day, apparently, unde rthe new coranavirus laws they cannot be sued like a bona-fide policeman can be.

 

They will have warrant cards?

A lot of them looked a bit middle  eastern. 

[TheAwakened]

The police in Hyde Park did seem a bit "off" 

[oneantisworthtenofyou]

https://www.imdb.com/search/keyword/?keywords=pandemic&sort=moviemeter,asc&mode=detail&page=1&ref_=kw_ref_key

 

so many plandemic movies

like a crystal ball into the infertile future

[sickofallthebollocks]

56 minutes ago, shadowmoon said:

They will have warrant cards?

A lot of them looked a bit middle  eastern. 

Good question Shadowmoon - I'm not sure buddy - but as far as I could gather - there were alot of normal police - but the ones stirring up the trouble - especially in traf sq, were the dummy police.

43 minutes ago, TheAwakened said:

The police in Hyde Park did seem a bit "off" 

I bet there was probably many of the 'doormen' there too?

[wake_up_bomb]

Here is a graph that I saw today on the BBC website:

What do you think the headline associated with this graph was?

 

It's funny, but I don't remember the headlines, fanfare and general state of furore when Covid hospital admissions fell by 99%, as the graph shows. Even now they're approximately 90% down from the peak of the virus, and even at the peak of the virus nothing particularly unexpected happened.

[Jack]

39 minutes ago, wake_up_bomb said:

Here is a graph that I saw today on the BBC website:

What do you think the headline associated with this graph was?

 

It's funny, but I don't remember the headlines, fanfare and general state of furore when Covid hospital admissions fell by 99%, as the graph shows. Even now they're approximately 90% down from the peak of the virus, and even at the peak of the virus nothing particularly unexpected happened.

only reason hopital admissions is rising is that the GOV said to the public to use the hospitals again.

 

So they can just ue the figures how they wish

[The Illuminator]

14 hours ago, Dreamer Of The Dream said:

Hello all

 

Just wanted to provide some context for my maiden post on the forum.   Me, well I was one of the sheep, living in a bubble of life until about 4 weeks ago.  Admittedly I found all of this conversation bizarre.  Thankfully, I have managed to wake up from my slumber and stop denying what is happening in front of my very eyes.  I have watched on since March initially believing and fearing what was being pumped out by the Main stream media, I mean FFS they didn't even dilute the message it was the language of fear on every single level.  Whilst I watched the events of the world unfold I began to seriously question the narrative, 2+2 wasn't making 4 but another number and it was the trigger I needed to really acknowledge the physcological warfare that is being served up to us.     

During the 1st lockdown I sat at home restricted from liberties,  couldn't see family, employees furloughed, made redundant, evicted, bankrupt society and people in fear of each other all under a perfectly blue sky and glorious weather.  I mean how surreal was it to see shops, businesses closed or empty while the nation was sunning themselves on local beaches and parks.  To rub salt into the wounds the expensive nightingale hospitals sat empty but perhaps more sickeningly frustrating was the multitude of tik tok/twitter videos of happy smiling nurses and doctors dancing along whilst vulnerable people  are abandoned that 1 video of the N/west Ambulance service (I think it was)  carrying a dead dummy to the  Bee Gees stayin alive song really left a lot of vomit in my mouth.   But here is the bit that really gets me and continues to actually shock me,  its those that can't see what is going on and their ignorance in seeing what is front of their eyes.  I have been told 'I need locking up' that Im stupid dangerous and here comes the hammer blow....not fit to be a parent and should have my kids taken off me beacuse I was an anti vaxxer (their words).  

This whole episode from the deceit and arrogance of MP's to the moral busy bodies on the street who lap up Piers & Suzanna breakfast drivel has left me fearing for humanity and I will be honest I have lost total belief in friends, work colleagues and in some cases family to help us get through this shitstorm.  Over the past few weeks I have been constantly living in anguish about what is to come , not what is to come for me but my beautiful children and my hopeful grandchildren.    

 

However, I have started to look under the bed a little bit with all of this and there are some chinks of light of people that are slowly but surely giving me the will to stand up and fight not just comply into submission. The fact that what I'm writing something that I suppose  feels quite militant and is in stark contrast to me as a person but this is what it has created and probably  I am not alone here.  

Yes, I'm new to all of this but I'm learning fast, one thing I do know is that I am warmed and encouraged by the people speaking out at various rallies etc I genuinely thought I was alone.

Unity is the foundation of survival and there is strength in solidarity,  to all of those brave courageous people out there who are speaking truth to power, you have to keep going there are thousands of us sat at home unable to attend these rallies etc but you represent us.

Remember,   'they got the guns but we got the numbers, gonna make it if we try, get together one more time. Get together one more time'

Walk on, and don't be afraid of the dark.

 

Great post.

 

Better late than never mate. Welcome to the enlightened side.

[The Illuminator]

An update in pharmacies. They have already said we are exempt from that stupid QR code thing. Now they saying all staff who have downloaded track and trace app to turn it off while at work. Shows what bullshit this all is.

 

https://psnc.org.uk/our-news/healthcare-workers-should-pause-the-nhs-covid-19-app-when-at-work/

 

October 5, 2020

For those who have downloaded and are using the NHS COVID-19 app, NHS England and NHS Improvement (NHSE&I) advises healthcare workers to pause the app while working in a healthcare building, such as a hospital or GP surgery. This includes an NHS community pharmacy. The app should also be paused if working behind a fixed Perspex (or equivalent) screen, which is big enough to provide adequate protection.

Further advice for healthcare workers can be found on the NHS website.

If healthcare workers test positive for coronavirus, NHS Test and Trace will assess whether relevant healthcare staff have been at risk of contracting coronavirus, and whether anybody else should self-isolate. Generally, these assessments are undertaken by the Public Health England (PHE) Local Health Protection Team. Accordingly, if a member of pharmacy staff tests positive for coronavirus, contractors are advised to ensure that the pharmacy’s case is managed by, or escalated if necessary, to the Local Health Protection Team for an assessment that considers the individual circumstances of the pharmacy.

NHS Test and Trace issues

PSNC is aware of increasing issues around NHS Test and Trace for community pharmacy contractors and and is working with NHSE&I to resolve them. Community pharmacy is a key part of NHS primary care services, and PSNC expects NHS Test and Trace decision-making and management of pharmacies, at all levels within PHE, to recognise this and be equivalent to decision-making and management for other primary care contractor colleagues.

[Chubby Rain]

I need the freedom of information request pdf that shows covid has never been isolated and doesnt exist from the uk department of health and social care. Can someone point me in the right direction please..

[HAARPING_On]

I've got it here.... 

[Ziggy Sawdust]

3 hours ago, Illmatic said:

 

Yeah it has a sexual element I suspect. Gaining back some control he didn't have in childhood, maybe some kind of dom fantasy. But who knows, the only certainty is he is nuts

 

He is the anti christ.

[Chubby Rain]

9 minutes ago, HAARPING_On said:

I've got it here.... 

Thank you very much

[Coldrum]

Remember this guy ?

 

[ManxCat3]

COVID passport being trialed: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8814245/Worlds-Covid-passport-trialled-flights-Heathrow-week.html#reader-comments

[ManxCat3]

Looks like these evil C**ts are in deep s**t now anyway: https://brandnewtube.com/watch/misuse-of-pcr-tests-worst-crime-against-humanity-ever_jIEzyvxLUfKKocD.html