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2 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

has anyone seen chris whitty lately or has he been stuffed back in his coffin until october 🧛‍♂️

 

They all went on holiday for a few months, not sure which hotels they want to as they all closed down, maybe he has a second home or used a private jet to avoid quarantine. 

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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

"Fascism (/ ˈ f æ ʃ ɪ z əm /) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power"

Ultranationalism is "extreme nationalism that promotes the interest of one state or people above all others", or simply "extreme devotion to one's own nation"

 

Hmmm.

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1 minute ago, Doc said:

Ultranationalism is "extreme nationalism that promotes the interest of one state or people above all others", or simply "extreme devotion to one's own nation"

 

Hmmm.

 

Doesn't resemble most Western nations to me. We're being screwed by rootless internationalist arseholes.

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5 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

has anyone seen chris whitty lately or has he been stuffed back in his coffin until october 🧛‍♂️

He's been busy wandering round local parks looking for people with 15 year old phones to hassle him on film ready for this winters shenanigans...

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38 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said:

I instantly regard anyone who uses the term ''fash'' in everyday conversation as the enemy and to be avoided at all costs and should opportunity arise to be beaten senseless as a bonus for them

In your case O & S's i understand you were making a point!

Same with XR,tomorrow will see them cleared from the streets hopefully ,although like last month expect carfully herded counter demos to take place from lbtqalphabet dildo butt monkeys and more of the same shit from the student politics branch of XR

 

Fascism is not your friend, but agreed the terms been hijacked to mean something different.

Authoritarianism/totalitarianism left & right is both the same to me, I dont see no harm in labelling someone either.

 

XR have always seemed the opposite to me as synthetic movements go to their name & have always called them out as a death cult..long before covid came along. And always used the term Envirofascist too, to describe MMGW agendist.

 

Since covid tho, its been clear left & right farmyard is all an illusion. Is only freedom vs slavery.

Which some of us have been saying for years on these forums.

Its just become much more obvious now & painful to witness.

 

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10 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

The extreme Left woke bash the Fash folks won't see it as Fascism because they don't see any Nationalist element in it, and because they're mostly getting everything they want, which is pretty much Corporate Communism. Start reframing it as Internationalist Fascism and then more might listen.

 

In my opinion, their hypocrisy seems to be the part where they're silent about the actions of Big Pharma and other woke capital agendas, not because they don't see it as Fascism.

 

It's definitely a weird time to be alive when most of the actual Fash are against what is being done, and with the Far-Left supporting a lot of the bullshit.

I went to see a band recently who are regarded as extreme far left,one of their tracks is 'freeborn john' they didn't see the irony of performing it whilst wearing masks pre show in the bar and their facebook page,if you had mentioned anything other than corbyn 2 years ago they would have wanted to lynch you,now its full of vax junkies who fail to see the slightest bit of irony hanging on to every edict spewed by gov and worse still believing them

Cunch of bunts

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1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Doesn't resemble most Western nations to me. We're being screwed by rootless internationalist arseholes.

Yes EW. Rootless they may be, but they see themselves as a 'people' and they are putting the interests of their 'people' and 'state' above everything else. 

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Just now, Doc said:

Yes EW. Rootless they may be, but they see themselves as a 'people' and they are putting the interests of their 'people' and 'state' above everything else. 

 

I get what you're saying, I'm just talking about what political ideology we live under in our countries, not in theirs.

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1 minute ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Fascism is not your friend, but agreed the terms been hijacked to mean something different.

Authoritarianism/totalitarianism left & right is both the same to me, I dont see no harm in labelling someone either.

 

XR have always seemed the opposite to me as synthetic movements go to their name & have always called them out as a death cult..long before covid came along. And always used the term Envirofacist too, to describe MMGW agendist.

 

Since covid tho, its been clear left & right farmyard is all an illusion. Is only freedom vs slavery.

Which some of us have been saying for years on these forums.

Its just become much more obvious now & painful to witness.

 

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Many still think politics exists as they remember it and believe in their addled minds that change is still possible via the ballot box,try telling them its got simpler and it boils down to them and us and the tinfoil insults trip off their tongues

I hate equally, i hope they all die,no time for it anymore all i want to see is destruction so we can start again

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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I get what you're saying, I'm just talking about what political ideology we live under in our countries, not in theirs.

Yeah, you are right. We certainly don't live in what I would call fascist enclaves. Authoritarianism can come from both the left and right like Odds said.

 

We aren't dealing with fascists. 

We are dealing with rootless psychos with a boner for authority and some seriously sick habits.

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Just now, whatthefoxhat said:

Many still think politics exists as they remember it and believe in their addled minds that change is still possible via the ballot box,try telling them its got simpler and it boils down to them and us and the tinfoil insults trip off their tongues

I hate equally, i hope they all die,no time for it anymore all i want to see is destruction so we can start again

 

Politics is more than just the ballot box though. Trying to shift the Overton in your favour is political and nothing to do with voting. People might not want to take an interest in politics, but that doesn't mean politics doesn't take an interest in them as Pericles said.

 

Personally I think more freedom loving people should take an interest in politics, otherwise it just allows all the wrong kind of people to only have a say. People should be taking an interest in the elites internal affairs as much as possible.

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

Ultranationalism is "extreme nationalism that promotes the interest of one state or people above all others", or simply "extreme devotion to one's own nation"

 

Hmmm.

 

Which is logical when you have a population of tax-payers..

So many people can't grasp this simple truth. Your government exists thanks to you so it has to work for you, that means favouring a group of people.

 

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23 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

The extreme Left woke bash the Fash folks won't see it as Fascism because they don't see any Nationalist element in it, and because they're mostly getting everything they want, which is pretty much Corporate Communism. Start reframing it as Internationalist Fascism and then more might listen.

 

In my opinion, their hypocrisy seems to be the part where they're silent about the actions of Big Pharma and other woke capital agendas, not because they don't see it as Fascism.

 

It's definitely a weird time to be alive when most of the actual Fash are against what is being done, and with the Far-Left supporting a lot of the bullshit.

 

There are old school left or are against it, like I say its not a left right thing, but people cling to their id politricks.

 

The new breed of globaalist left tho are totally batshit crazy without any idea..just emotional reactionaries.

But I would say same about opposame woke GB News lot are just as easily herded.

 

What you call corporate communism or internation socialism.. I called corporatism as in fascism. Is all same isms & skisms end of day, accept the nationalist element like you say. Nailed it.

 

Like take your mate Mosley for example. He was pure NWO establishment, but it was on a colonial racial bases.

He also wanted rid of any democracy & wanted corporate rule only like the corporation of the city lot.

He wanted to ban striking also. Would have took us back to feudal times.

But then maybe libertarianism would too.

Not saying I have a solution.

 

People like that I just see as old school establishment.

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1 minute ago, oddsnsods said:

 

There are old school left or are against it, like I say its not a left right thing, but people cling to their id politricks.

 

The new breed of globaalist left tho are totally batshit crazy without any idea..just emotional reactionaries.

But I would say same about opposame woke GB News lot are just as easily herded.

 

What you call corporate communism or internation socialism.. I called corporatism as in fascism. Is all same isms & skisms end of day, accept the nationalist element like you say. Nailed it.

 

Like take your mate Mosley for example. He was pure NWO establishment, but it was on a colonial racial bases.

He also wanted rid of any democracy & wanted corporate rule only like the corporation of the city lot.

He wanted to ban striking also. Would have took us back to feudal times.

But then maybe libertarianism would too.

Not saying I have a solution.

 

People like that I just see as old school establishment.

 

To be fair, I said the extreme Left and Far-Left. Normal Lefties are not radical bash the Fash Antifa types.

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4 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

To be fair, I said the extreme Left and Far-Left. Normal Lefties are not radical bash the Fash Antifa types.

 

Well I have a few on my Twatter who I consider Marxist, Chomsky Nazi bad types but are dead against the agenda & big pharma, corporatism, war. But get triggered when you mention the J word of course.

 

Some are pro Brexit too, seeing the EU monster for what it is.

 

 

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1 minute ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Well I have a few on my Twatter who I consider Marxist, Chomsky Nazi bad types but are dead against the agenda & big pharma, corporatism, war. But get triggered when you mention the J word of course.

 

Yeah, I'm sure there are exceptions, but a lot of those folks just shout the "eat the rich" nonsense because they're scared to actually say who most the rich are like you say. It gives them cover. lol

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7 minutes ago, Firebird said:

Can't believe most people can't see through all the bullshit.

At least he waited a few months before joining. It's like a revolving door between government and private corporations, yet nobody sees the connection. There's not even a 'Chinese Wall' for appearances' sake.

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