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10 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

The extreme Left woke bash the Fash folks won't see it as Fascism because they don't see any Nationalist element in it, and because they're mostly getting everything they want, which is pretty much Corporate Communism. Start reframing it as Internationalist Fascism and then more might listen.

 

In my opinion, their hypocrisy seems to be the part where they're silent about the actions of Big Pharma and other woke capital agendas, not because they don't see it as Fascism.

 

It's definitely a weird time to be alive when most of the actual Fash are against what is being done, and with the Far-Left supporting a lot of the bullshit.

I went to see a band recently who are regarded as extreme far left,one of their tracks is 'freeborn john' they didn't see the irony of performing it whilst wearing masks pre show in the bar and their facebook page,if you had mentioned anything other than corbyn 2 years ago they would have wanted to lynch you,now its full of vax junkies who fail to see the slightest bit of irony hanging on to every edict spewed by gov and worse still believing them

Cunch of bunts

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1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Doesn't resemble most Western nations to me. We're being screwed by rootless internationalist arseholes.

Yes EW. Rootless they may be, but they see themselves as a 'people' and they are putting the interests of their 'people' and 'state' above everything else. 

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1 minute ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Fascism is not your friend, but agreed the terms been hijacked to mean something different.

Authoritarianism/totalitarianism left & right is both the same to me, I dont see no harm in labelling someone either.

 

XR have always seemed the opposite to me as synthetic movements go to their name & have always called them out as a death cult..long before covid came along. And always used the term Envirofacist too, to describe MMGW agendist.

 

Since covid tho, its been clear left & right farmyard is all an illusion. Is only freedom vs slavery.

Which some of us have been saying for years on these forums.

Its just become much more obvious now & painful to witness.

 

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Many still think politics exists as they remember it and believe in their addled minds that change is still possible via the ballot box,try telling them its got simpler and it boils down to them and us and the tinfoil insults trip off their tongues

I hate equally, i hope they all die,no time for it anymore all i want to see is destruction so we can start again

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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I get what you're saying, I'm just talking about what political ideology we live under in our countries, not in theirs.

Yeah, you are right. We certainly don't live in what I would call fascist enclaves. Authoritarianism can come from both the left and right like Odds said.

 

We aren't dealing with fascists. 

We are dealing with rootless psychos with a boner for authority and some seriously sick habits.

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Just now, whatthefoxhat said:

Many still think politics exists as they remember it and believe in their addled minds that change is still possible via the ballot box,try telling them its got simpler and it boils down to them and us and the tinfoil insults trip off their tongues

I hate equally, i hope they all die,no time for it anymore all i want to see is destruction so we can start again

 

Politics is more than just the ballot box though. Trying to shift the Overton in your favour is political and nothing to do with voting. People might not want to take an interest in politics, but that doesn't mean politics doesn't take an interest in them as Pericles said.

 

Personally I think more freedom loving people should take an interest in politics, otherwise it just allows all the wrong kind of people to only have a say. People should be taking an interest in the elites internal affairs as much as possible.

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

Ultranationalism is "extreme nationalism that promotes the interest of one state or people above all others", or simply "extreme devotion to one's own nation"

 

Hmmm.

 

Which is logical when you have a population of tax-payers..

So many people can't grasp this simple truth. Your government exists thanks to you so it has to work for you, that means favouring a group of people.

 

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23 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

The extreme Left woke bash the Fash folks won't see it as Fascism because they don't see any Nationalist element in it, and because they're mostly getting everything they want, which is pretty much Corporate Communism. Start reframing it as Internationalist Fascism and then more might listen.

 

In my opinion, their hypocrisy seems to be the part where they're silent about the actions of Big Pharma and other woke capital agendas, not because they don't see it as Fascism.

 

It's definitely a weird time to be alive when most of the actual Fash are against what is being done, and with the Far-Left supporting a lot of the bullshit.

 

There are old school left or are against it, like I say its not a left right thing, but people cling to their id politricks.

 

The new breed of globaalist left tho are totally batshit crazy without any idea..just emotional reactionaries.

But I would say same about opposame woke GB News lot are just as easily herded.

 

What you call corporate communism or internation socialism.. I called corporatism as in fascism. Is all same isms & skisms end of day, accept the nationalist element like you say. Nailed it.

 

Like take your mate Mosley for example. He was pure NWO establishment, but it was on a colonial racial bases.

He also wanted rid of any democracy & wanted corporate rule only like the corporation of the city lot.

He wanted to ban striking also. Would have took us back to feudal times.

But then maybe libertarianism would too.

Not saying I have a solution.

 

People like that I just see as old school establishment.

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1 minute ago, oddsnsods said:

 

There are old school left or are against it, like I say its not a left right thing, but people cling to their id politricks.

 

The new breed of globaalist left tho are totally batshit crazy without any idea..just emotional reactionaries.

But I would say same about opposame woke GB News lot are just as easily herded.

 

What you call corporate communism or internation socialism.. I called corporatism as in fascism. Is all same isms & skisms end of day, accept the nationalist element like you say. Nailed it.

 

Like take your mate Mosley for example. He was pure NWO establishment, but it was on a colonial racial bases.

He also wanted rid of any democracy & wanted corporate rule only like the corporation of the city lot.

He wanted to ban striking also. Would have took us back to feudal times.

But then maybe libertarianism would too.

Not saying I have a solution.

 

People like that I just see as old school establishment.

 

To be fair, I said the extreme Left and Far-Left. Normal Lefties are not radical bash the Fash Antifa types.

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4 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

To be fair, I said the extreme Left and Far-Left. Normal Lefties are not radical bash the Fash Antifa types.

 

Well I have a few on my Twatter who I consider Marxist, Chomsky Nazi bad types but are dead against the agenda & big pharma, corporatism, war. But get triggered when you mention the J word of course.

 

Some are pro Brexit too, seeing the EU monster for what it is.

 

 

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1 minute ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Well I have a few on my Twatter who I consider Marxist, Chomsky Nazi bad types but are dead against the agenda & big pharma, corporatism, war. But get triggered when you mention the J word of course.

 

Yeah, I'm sure there are exceptions, but a lot of those folks just shout the "eat the rich" nonsense because they're scared to actually say who most the rich are like you say. It gives them cover. lol

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3 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

At least he waited a few months before joining. It's like a revolving door between government and private corporations, yet nobody sees the connection. There's not even a 'Chinese Wall' for appearances' sake.

It's been like that for over 200 years politics/corporations one feeds the other and up to now it's operated quite well and people have had stability to certain degree when it's worked ,now though the corporations have become the masters and their quest for pure profit from every aspect of life has far exceeded anything seen before

Politics is now enslaved to the corporations

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55 minutes ago, Doc said:

It's gonna happen one way or another mate. 

I think the last time the UK tried a different political system was after the Romans cleared off home,took a while to get where we are now

I just hope the Danes don't get ideas of sailing up the Trent again and dividing the nation ,we can do without danegeld on top of all the current crop of taxes and financial penalties,although big pharma will want their payments regardless of the dead

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Asked whether he believes all players should have two vaccinations, Southgate said: “My understanding - although I’ve not spoken to people at every club - is the take-up has been varied across different clubs."


“I’m not going to get too involved in this, because I was asked to do a video supporting the vaccination programme, which I thought was responsible, and of all the things I received abuse for over the summer - of which there’s been several - that’s probably the one I’ve received the most abuse over.

“So I’m probably going to keep out of that argument for the time being.

 

 

Typical work from the scum newspaper, turning an awkward banal non-response from the england boss, that hardly any of the pro footballers want or have had the Vax into more vitriol for people who are against this media/gov driven vax agenda.

 

Two birds with one stone. Southgate side steps the question but the punches are landed on the intended targets. anti vaxers and "hate posters" on social media.

 

 

Some of the wives of england players such as walker and stones, they're regularly posting anti vax stuff on instagram. Maybe soon one high profile player will come out and give their honest opinion?

 

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that’s probably the one I’ve received the most abuse over.

 

it's never I've been challenged by or had people disagreed with me about is it? it's always I've been abused. These sports celebs make me laugh. comparing having difference view point to being abused?

 

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An Australian farmer unable to attend his aunt’s funeral because of Covid-19 restrictions has used his sheep to pay tribute. Ben Jackson arranged hundreds of sheep by laying out grain in the shape of a heart. The video expressing his affection for his aunt was viewed by mourners at the funeral.

 

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More progaganda aimed at creating a demand for the vaccination of children.

The consensus from the morons I meet is, they will close the schools again!

 

The consensus statement from a sub-group of Sage continues: "Schools will represent a high proportion of remaining susceptible individuals and it is highly likely that exponential increases will be seen in school-attending age groups after schools open."

 

It says vaccination will also have made "almost no difference in these population groups over the summer holidays", and when schools reopen, measures in place to limit the spread of the virus will be "much reduced" compared to the spring and summer.

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