oddsnsods Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Golden Retriever said: Speak for yourself! One flu over the covid cuckoos nest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, kj35 said: That's paywalled Less than half the UK population can expect to be vaccinated against coronavirus, the head of the government’s vaccine task force has said in an attempt to clear up the public’s “misguided” perception of the programme’s aim. Kate Bingham told the Financial Times that vaccinating everyone in the country was “not going to happen”, adding: “We just need to vaccinate everyone at risk.” Her comments come as Boris Johnson on Sunday warned that the country was in for a “bumpy” winter. Calling himself a “freedom-loving Tory”, he urged Britons to live “fearlessly but with common sense”. However, pointing to the latest infection rate data, which has surged despite more than a quarter of the UK living under tighter restrictions, the prime minister said the number one priority was to keep fighting the virus. A record 22,961 new coronavirus cases were confirmed on Sunday, an increase of more than 10,000 compared to 12,872 on Saturday. The government said “an issue” had been identified overnight on Friday October 2 “in the automated process that transfers positive cases data to PHE”. As a result, the number of coronavirus cases published between October 3 and October 4 included 15,841 additional cases from between September 25 and October 2. Ms Bingham said the government was aiming to vaccinate about 30m people, compared with a UK population of about 67m, if a successful vaccine against Covid-19 was found. “People keep talking about ‘time to vaccinate the whole population’, but that is misguided,” she said. “There’s going to be no vaccination of people under 18. It’s an adult-only vaccine, for people over 50, focusing on health workers and carehome workers and the vulnerable.” Some public health experts said the fact that many British people believed a vaccine would be taken by the entire population pointed to a lack of clarity in government messaging about what the public could expect. “It hasn’t really been clearly communicated to the public,” said Devi Sridhar, professor of global public health at Edinburgh university. “It would be good if they . . . had a conversation about how that priority process will go.” She added: “You could make the argument that the people you need to vaccinate are people from a deprived background. The best way to shield is to be wealthy.” Ms Bingham said vaccination policy would be aimed at those “most at risk” and noted that vaccinating healthy people, who are much less likely to have severe outcomes from Covid-19, “could cause them some freak harm”, potentially tipping the scales in terms of the risk-benefit analysis. David Nabarro, special envoy to the World Health Organization on Covid-19, also told the FT that addressing the coronavirus crisis was “not going to be a case of everyone getting vaccinated”. “There will be a definite analysis of who is the priority for the vaccine, based on where they live, their occupation and their age bracket,” he said. “We’re not fundamentally using the vaccine to create population immunity, we’re just changing the likelihood people will get harmed or hurt. It will be strategic.” The latest advice from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation in the UK, published last week, states that “simple age-based [vaccination] programmes are usually easier to deliver and therefore achieve higher vaccine uptake”, and also states that health and social care workers would be a high priority. It places older adults in carehomes and carehome workers at the top of its priority list and then all adults aged 50 to 80 next on the list, with older age groups first. The JCVI said there had not been a decision on who would be eligible for the vaccine. The health department said it was looking at advice from the JCVI, adding that it wanted “as many people as possible to access a Covid-19 vaccine”. Ms Bingham, who is also managing partner at fund manager SV Health Investors, said that if any vaccine proved to be 95 per cent effective, which is thought to be unlikely, then it may make sense to vaccinate more widely but any decision on this would be taken later. The UK government has six vaccine candidates in its portfolio, produced by AstraZeneca and Oxford university; BioNTech and Pfizer; Valneva; Novavax; Johnson & Johnson; and GlaxoSmithKline. All are likely to require two doses, which is why the vaccine deals with manufacturers have been done in multiples of 60m, Ms Bingham said. Scientists’ forecasts for when the first of these could present positive phase 3, or final, trial results range from this month, at the most optimistic, to mid-2021 at the most pessimistic. If such trials are successful, companies will look to secure emergency regulatory approval within months. It is widely believed that any vaccine against Covid-19 will only limit the damage caused by the disease, rather than preventing transmission altogether. The influenza vaccine was given to roughly 15m people in the UK last year, although the target for this year is double that. It has been more effective in some years than others, preventing anywhere between 15 per cent and 52 per cent of cases between 2015 and 2020, according to research by Oxford university. Edited October 5, 2020 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Following on from Carl Vernons short clip re: richer areas are experiencing less restrictive measures Quote NO CORONAVIRUS LOCKDOWN FOR TOP TORY CONSTITUENCIES Wealthy areas, including the chancellor Rishi Sunak’s parliamentary seat, are avoiding lockdown despite having higher Covid-19 rates than poorer areas that are subject to restrictions, according to leaked emails between health officials. Gabriel Pogrund and Tom Calver www.thetimes.co.uk The government is under growing pressure to explain why it has placed large parts of the north and Midlands under local lockdowns while overlooking areas with similar infection rates. Asked why the northwest is “treated differently” from areas such as his own seat of Uxbridge and South Ruislip in west London, Boris Johnson said on Friday: “I appreciate … people want to see an iron consistency applied across the whole country.” Matt Hancock, the health secretary, decides which areas to place in lockdown during weekly “gold” meetings with advisers. Yesterday, 50 councils were subject to measures such as bans on household mixing. However, there is no official Covid-19 infection rate that triggers a local lockdown. On Thursday, Professor Dominic Harrison, the director of public health for Blackburn with Darwen, the largest borough in the wider Lancashire area, wrote to Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) officials, saying the measures were “avoidably increasing economic inequality”. He said: “There is now a different level of central control applied across local authorities, with some of the more economically challenged boroughs being placed into more restrictive control measures at an earlier point in their … case rate trajectory. “This has the effect of exacerbating the economic inequality impacts of the virus in those areas. We urgently need consistency in the national strategy if the control system itself is not to add to inequality, giving an economic ‘double whammy’ to more challenged areas.” His comments come amid a row between ministers and mayors over lockdown policy. Andy Preston, the Middlesbrough mayor, last week said he did “not accept” the latest measures and said local leaders could effectively “preserve jobs and wellbeing”. He has since U-turned. Blackburn with Darwen is one of Britain’s poorest boroughs. Its Covid rate peaked at 212 weekly cases per 100,000 people. When officials first imposed lockdowns in the area in August, they intervened in wards where the weekly rate exceeded 60 new cases per 100,000. A similar benchmark has been used elsewhere. However, Harrison produced figures last week to suggest that wealthier areas with similar or higher rates were avoiding lockdown. Richmondshire in North Yorkshire, which includes Sunak’s constituency and is one of the least deprived areas in Britain, has 73 new cases for every 100,000 people. Newark and Sherwood, represented by Robert Jenrick, the housing secretary, and Mark Spencer, the chief whip, stands at 84. Both areas have avoided lockdown. In contrast, Wolverhampton, another poorer area, has 56 cases per 100,000 yet remains in lockdown. Chorley, at 72, Lancaster, at 66, and Oadby and Wigston, at 63, are also subject to lockdowns. Several “red wall” seats that voted Tory at the last election have avoided lockdown, including Barrow-in-Furness (112) , Darlington (110) and Wakefield (73). Of all areas where infections exceed 70 but lockdown has been avoided, the majority are represented by Tory MPs. Steve Reed, shadow housing secretary, said: “People living in the north and Midlands will be asking why they’re having to face restrictions when other parts of the country that have seen infections rise are not.” The DHSC said the incidence rate was only one criterion considered in deciding on lockdowns. NO LOCKDOWN Sheffield 110 cases per 100,000 Barrow-in-Furness 112 Darlington 110 Craven 109 Newark and Sherwood 84 IN LOCKDOWN Chorley 73 cases per 100,000 Wyre 71 Lancaster 66 Oadby and Wigston 63 Wolverhampton 56 https://eastdevonwatch.org/2020/10/04/no-coronavirus-lockdown-for-top-tory-constituencies/ Edited October 5, 2020 by zarkov 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, zarkov said: Following on from Carl Vernons short clip re: richer areas are experiencing less restrictive measures https://eastdevonwatch.org/2020/10/04/no-coronavirus-lockdown-for-top-tory-constituencies/ Just on the face of it It will upset voters and drive rhem to labour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, zArk said: Just on the face of it It will upset voters and drive them to labour 'Elections' are an illusion my friend. The result has been determined long before you put your X next to a name. It doesn't matter which 'party' you vote for, they're all puppets carrying out orders for the 1%. This goes for the whole world. If voting could change anything it wouldn't be allowed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 https://nationalfile.com/world-bank-document-lists-covid-19-program-ending-in-march-2025/ Well looks like we've got 4 more years of this shit to go according to the above article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Mind-altering THC chemical in cannabis could help prevent and treat deadly COVID-19 complications by blocking harmful immune response, "research" shows Army will be distributing CannaCorona19 through coffee shops in partnership with the eat out to help scheme. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8803779/THC-chemical-cannabis-help-prevent-treat-deadly-COVID-19-complications.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I've just been reading the same article. "I want to be clear to advise not to take cannabis if you have covid." Too late buddy, now where's that bag of crisps I had? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Morpheus said: https://nationalfile.com/world-bank-document-lists-covid-19-program-ending-in-march-2025/ Well looks like we've got 4 more years of this shit to go according to the above article. Deagle info was dated 2025 2025 is a big year it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Why won’t the UK vaccinate the whole population? https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-won-t-the-uk-vaccinate-the-whole-population- Because we don't consent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, zArk said: Deagle info was dated 2025 2025 is a big year it seems The coming and crowning of the anti-christ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Morpheus said: The coming and crowning of the anti-christ? I think the ethiopians had the end of world this december 2020 The deagle info is the population estimates for 2025 https://www.deagel.com/forecast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Morpheus Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: This might only apply to me, but I've noticed most of the Twitter links you post recently don't seem to be working. They don't load for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, zArk said: Deagle info was dated 2025 2025 is a big year it seems I'll be 76 then. I'll either be dead or dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Morpheus said: This might only apply to me, but I've noticed most of the Twitter links you post recently don't seem to be working. They don't load for me. Nah you're not alone. This is what they currently look like for me in Firefox: They load okay when I view them in the Edge browser though. Sometimes they work for me in Firefox, but it seems like it depends what country I have selected in my VPN. Doesn't make much sense. Edited October 5, 2020 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Nah you're not alone. This is what they currently look like for me in Firefox: They load okay when I view them in the Edge browser though. Sometimes they work for me in Firefox, but it seems like it depends what country I have selected in my VPN. Doesn't make much sense. I'm using duck duck go. I have the same issue though. Shame, because I want to see what you've posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Morpheus said: I'm using duck duck go. I have the same issue though. Shame, because I want to see what you've posted. If you right click on the date of the text from the tweet and open in a new tab you can view the tweet, assuming you can even see the basic text that is. I will try to remember to include a link to the tweets as well in future for those of us that have this issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said: 'Elections' are an illusion my friend. The result has been determined long before you put your X next to a name. It doesn't matter which 'party' you vote for, they're all puppets carrying out orders for the 1%. This goes for the whole world. If voting could change anything it wouldn't be allowed. As in the adage - It doesnt matter who you vote for - government always gets in. I agree & I dont vote myself. If anything it passifies voters who hold the mistaken belief that they make a difference. If no one voted they would install some other form of control I would estimate that the process of voting in fact prevents revolution & prevents positive change. If through voting, a man could only confer rights that he naturally possesses then no man would be eligible to vote. Authority is a mental illusion. In ths system there exists only the Law of force and all that accompanies it - coercion, fear, ritual and ceremony. 2020 and we are still in the dark ages under these psychopaths. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Morpheus said: I'm using duck duck go. I have the same issue though. Shame, because I want to see what you've posted. i tend to right click on the link showing and 'open in new window' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metak88 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Morpheus said: I'm using duck duck go. I have the same issue though. Shame, because I want to see what you've posted. You're probably using some add-on/extension/script blocker that's blocking twitter. Try opening same forum page in new private window to verify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Less than half the UK population can expect to be vaccinated against coronavirus, the head of the government’s vaccine task force has said in an attempt to clear up the public’s “misguided” perception of the programme’s aim. Don't you believe it! Bill Gates wants EVERYONE vaccinated This will just be the first tranche and by making you believe you aren't in it you will sit back, relax and not resist the first wave of the roll out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitochondrial Eve Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Does anybody know about patents and can clarify what this provisional application number means - highlighted in red - with the date of 13th Oct 2015? This patent - filed by Richard A Rothschild on 17th May 2020 - is being touted on social media as a new "bombshell" proving that Covid-19 was planned in advance (https://silview.media/2020/10/04/atomic-bombshell-rothschilds-patented-covid-19-biometric-tests-in-2015-and-2017/). From what I can tell, the provisional application number is listed under the heading "Related U.S. Application Data" and is a continuation of previous patent applications which may not necessarily have been Covid-19 related. The prior applications seem concerned with using biometric data but I am not sure they involved Covid-19 specifically. If not, that undermines claims that this patent is the "bombshell" suggested. Any thoughts? PS - Sorry about the slightly blurred picture but the link below goes direct to the patent for a better image. https://www.freepatentsonline.com/20200279585.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fifth element Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Reet Hard said: Oh I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for people to wake up. Good luck to those sleepyheads if this were to happen they will be turning into The Borg some are already have turned into invasion of the body snatchers. Great read but a very grim outlook. http://tapnewswire.com/2020/09/ultimate-proof-covid-19-was-planned-to-usher-in-the-new-world-order/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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