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Bravo Anne.

 

Dr Anne McCloskey, a former Aontú councillor, expressed concerns in a social media video about young people being given the Covid-19 vaccine.

The Health and Social Care Board (HSCB) said it was suspending Dr McCloskey "as a precautionary measure while it undertakes a full investigation".

Dr McCloskey cannot work for the health service during that time.

In the nine-minute video posted on Sunday, Dr McCloskey made a number of claims, including that there was not enough evidence that it was safe for young people to be vaccinated.

Dr McCloskey said she was "distraught" by the number of young people "damaged" by "unlicensed and unapproved" vaccines.

She said many young people had been "coerced, bribed or bullied" into being vaccinated and that vaccines were "malevolent".

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22 minutes ago, Basket Case said:


How is sitting indoors waiting for forced vaxxinations going to help anyone ?
 

Do something! Sure but you cant think of something better than shooting yourself in the foot?

 

Aussie truckdrivers....not known for abundance of wisdom

 

Its like they walk onto the scene and shout.....     "We are going to fuckup the whole country"

 

I see it as the same as chucking a bucket of petrol onto a fire

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8 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

What ?
 

 

Who was it who first wisely suggested that 'the best form of defence is (targeted) attack' ? Read into that what you will

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6 hours ago, Jikwan said:

The tuckers going to turn the country into a big mess

Its what the govt want. A big mess

And all around the world people cheering and encouraging

The truckers will hurt the people the masses

Govt been spoiling for a fight a long time already

 

 

It's called resistance.

 

As I understand it, the Oz Governments are talking about making the truck drivers have the vaccine

to travel interstate, in the future.

 

These mens' livelihoods are at risk. Some may have families to support.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Jikwan said:

Do something! Sure but you cant think of something better than shooting yourself in the foot?

 

Aussie truckdrivers....not known for abundance of wisdom

 

Its like they walk onto the scene and shout.....     "We are going to fuckup the whole country"

 

I see it as the same as chucking a bucket of petrol onto a fire

Coward sitting clutching your pearls wont help,stock up brace for impact and get off your frightned backside and come up with something,but at the very least stop sitting in fear chicken littling it

 

If you don't you'll be dragged from your home kicking and screaming and you'll be forcibly jabbed

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17 minutes ago, Jikwan said:

Do something! Sure but you cant think of something better than shooting yourself in the foot?


l guess l should quote and comment better.

 

What do you suggest with the Army on the streets and 23hr lockdown over what amounts to NOTHING ?

Trucks and trailers parked and left in the correct places could fuck up government / police / army movements and plans.

SOMETHING has to be done.....ANYTHING. Push some random button s see what happens.

BREAK THE MACHINE FFS....

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4 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

It's called resistance.

 

As I understand it, the Oz Governments are talking about making the truck drivers have the vaccine

to travel interstate, in the future.

 

These mens' livelihoods are at risk. Some may have families to support.

 

 

This is such a mess

 

I would say the aussie govt knew in advance what would happen if they demanded vaxx of truckdrivers

 

I keep saying the govt there want an angry desperate mass of peasants to be rioting and killing a few cops and millitary

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7 minutes ago, Basket Case said:


l guess l should quote and comment better.

 

What do you suggest with the Army on the streets and 23hr lockdown over what amounts to NOTHING ?

Trucks and trailers parked and left in the correct places could fuck up government / police / army movements and plans.

SOMETHING has to be done.....ANYTHING. Push some random button s see what happens.

BREAK THE MACHINE FFS....

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35 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

Bravo Anne.

 

Dr Anne McCloskey, a former Aontú councillor, expressed concerns in a social media video about young people being given the Covid-19 vaccine.

The Health and Social Care Board (HSCB) said it was suspending Dr McCloskey "as a precautionary measure while it undertakes a full investigation".

Dr McCloskey cannot work for the health service during that time.

In the nine-minute video posted on Sunday, Dr McCloskey made a number of claims, including that there was not enough evidence that it was safe for young people to be vaccinated.

Dr McCloskey said she was "distraught" by the number of young people "damaged" by "unlicensed and unapproved" vaccines.

She said many young people had been "coerced, bribed or bullied" into being vaccinated and that vaccines were "malevolent".

 

Here's a vid ef of herself in a debate from earlier tonight.


Worth a watch, for anyone interested.
 

 

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37 minutes ago, Basket Case said:


l guess l should quote and comment better.

 

What do you suggest with the Army on the streets and 23hr lockdown over what amounts to NOTHING ?

Trucks and trailers parked and left in the correct places could fuck up government / police / army movements and plans.

SOMETHING has to be done.....ANYTHING. Push some random button s see what happens.

BREAK THE MACHINE FFS....

I would not put any faith in an angry muddled disorganized unarmed leaderless mob

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She was making a good point, but destroyed her credibility with the muh ChiCom BS, like we don't know who is behind Pfizer. I'm so tired of reading cringe.

 

Our governments are not terrorized either, they're part of the problem and they hate us, lady.

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5 hours ago, SimonTV said:

 

That is NOT full approval in my (layman's) view.  There will always be a trial and error aspect to drugs and an element of risk, but full approval involves trialling over many years.  They are doing this back-to-front.

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2 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

 

That is NOT full approval in my (layman's) view.  There will always be a trial and error aspect to drugs and an element of risk, but full approval involves trialling over many years.  They are doing this back-to-front.

 

It was not fully approved, so Reuters need fact checking. 

 

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On August 23, 2021, having concluded that revising this EUA is appropriate to protect the public
health or safety under section 564(g)(2) of the Act, FDA is reissuing the August 12, 2021 letter
of authorization in its entirety with revisions incorporated to clarify that the EUA will remain in
place for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for the previously-authorized indication and
uses, and to authorize use of COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) under this EUA for
certain uses that are not included in the approved BLA. In addition, the Fact Sheet for
Healthcare Providers Administering Vaccine (Vaccination Providers) was revised to provide
updates on expiration dating of the authorized Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and to
update language regarding warnings and precautions related to myocarditis and pericarditis. The
Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers was updated as the Vaccine Information Fact Sheet for
Recipients and Caregivers, which comprises the Fact Sheet for the authorized Pfizer-BioNTech
COVID-19 Vaccine and information about the FDA-licensed vaccine, COMIRNATY (COVID-
19 Vaccine, mRNA).
Pfizer-BioNTech COVID‑19 Vaccine contains a nucleoside-modified messenger RNA
(modRNA) encoding the viral spike (S) glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2 formulated in lipid
particles. COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is the same formulation as the PfizerBioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and can be used interchangeably with the Pfizer-BioNTech
COVID-19 Vaccine to provide the COVID-19 vaccination series.


Try and work out that word salad. Sounds like it is still under EUA (emergency use authorisation) to me. 

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There was some people who said that COMIRNATY is not the same product as BNT162b2 based on the last paragraph that I posted there. But looking at the wikipedia page, they are saying that COMIRNATY is a trade name of BNT162b2. Yet that last paragraph does elude to them being "interchangeable" and being a different product. I think they write these things purposefully as unclear as possible. 

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19 hours ago, DarianF said:

And you thought they would just stop at 80% vaccination?

 

🤣🤣

 

Ending restrictions with 80% vaccinated could cause 25,000 Australian deaths, new modelling suggests

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/24/ending-lockdowns-with-80-vaccinated-could-cause-25000-australian-deaths-new-modelling-suggests

 

No folks. It's 100% or nothing. They are all in on this one.

Thank goodness they've used a model.

 

At first I thought they were making everything up.

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For the May 10, 2021 authorization for individuals 12 through 15 years of age, FDA reviewed
safety and effectiveness data from the above-referenced, ongoing Phase 1/2/3 trial that has
enrolled approximately 46,000 participants, including 2,260 participants 12 through 15 years of
age. Trial participants were randomized 1:1 to receive Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine or
saline control. FDA’s review of the available safety data from 2,260 participants 12 through 15
years of age, who were followed for a median of 2 months after receiving the second dose, did
not identify specific safety concerns
that would preclude issuance of an EUA. FDA’s analysis of
SARS-CoV-2 50% neutralizing antibody titers 1 month after the second dose of PfizerBioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine in a subset of participants who had no serological or virological
evidence of past SARS-CoV-2 infection confirm the geometric mean antibody titer in
participants 12 through 15 years of age was non-inferior to the geometric mean antibody titer in
participants 16 through 25 years of age. FDA’s analysis of available descriptive efficacy data
from 1,983 participants 12 through 15 years of age without evidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection
prior to 7 days after dose 2 confirm that the vaccine was 100% effective (95% confidence
interval 75.3, 100.0) in preventing COVID-19 occurring at least 7 days after the second dose
(with no COVID-19 cases in the vaccine group compared to 16 COVID-19 cases in the placebo
group). Based on these data, FDA concluded that it is reasonable to believe that PfizerBioNTech COVID‑19 Vaccine may be effective in individuals 12 through 15 years of age.
Additionally, FDA determined it is reasonable to conclude, based on the totality of the scientific
evidence available, that the known and potential benefits of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID‑19
Vaccine outweigh the known and potential risks of the vaccine
, for the prevention of COVID-19
in individuals 12 through 15 years of age.

 

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link to the full document https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

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