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7 hours ago, Bombadil said:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04796896?term=Child+vaccine+trials&cond=Covid19&draw=2&rank=1

 

this seems to have loads of info on what their doing and where. Shit loads on here. Struggling to find any hard data though on results

 

That is moderna vaccine, not the biontech one that MHRA cite for their approval. I found another trial for the Chinese vaccine on children on that site as well. 

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1 minute ago, SimonTV said:

 

That is moderna vaccine, not the biontech one that MHRA cite for their approval. I found another trial for the Chinese vaccine on children on that site as well. 

 

Speaking of the biontech vaxx: https://darianfentos.writeas.com/pfizer-jab-pregnancy-and-breastfeeding-uk-health-authorities-confirm-lack-of

 

Sounds like a winner.

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Interestingly that moderna study is still in recruiting stage. Not completing their experimentation on children until 2023. 

 

Actual Study Start Date  :    March 15, 2021
Estimated Primary Completion Date  :    June 12, 2023
Estimated Study Completion Date  :    June 12, 2023

 

The biontech study is still a mystery. 

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So basically, MHRA has approved all covid vaccines for 12-15 years olds based on one non-peer reviewed study based on a clinical trial of biontech vaccine that can't be located online. So they going to hand out AZ and moderna to children based on a non peer reviewed study of the biontech vaccine...?

 

You just pay attention to which vaccines they start handing out to children....

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32 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

if ppl dont start dying en mass antivaxxers will look muppets

 

i've seen antivax virologists being quoted here now go on videos arranged by pro Q grifters.

what does that say.

While it's possible the vaccine might cause mass deaths via ADE or an antigen specific immunosuppressive effect I'm far more concerned that the spike protein is a prion.

 

Other people have talked about this but it's likely that, if so, the effects will not start showing up for some time (3-5 years). Prions can be species specific, are 100% lethal and completely uncurable. They can also be spread to others and persist in the environment far longer than viruses.

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8 hours ago, Claire said:

I know about half of my coworkers will. The business I work for held a carrot for unvaccinated workers to be vaxxed. That carrot was they did not have to wear a mask if they took the shot. People were encouraged to get the shot before the 9th of August. The 8th of August resulted in the continued mandating of masking. Its utter nonesense... they do not hire anyone permanently so it comes to three month contracts in certain departments. They have a pause on hiring right now..not sure why but time will tell... Imagine some poor idiot is hired reads that if they take a shot they do not have to wear a mask. So they get it before the 9th and then they are told to keep a mask on anyhow. Surprisingly, many of my coworkers complied quickly and quietly...its pathetic...I need away from all of this!!!!! This is retail. In health care it never ended..

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Horrible when you have to live by such insane rules!

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4 hours ago, whatthefoxhat said:

Sorry Bombadil,Once you are awake you can NEVER go back to sleep,you may pretend for a while but deep down you can never become one of the sheeple,it's just a fact of life

I know! Sometimes ignorant bliss seems appealing. Honestly though I’d rather be an awake cranky old git than a woke quasi human repeating machine!

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7 hours ago, Claire said:

Smart, it's scary to be a parent in these times since now you have to watch your child's life more closely than ever...well should have all these decades, but now..yikes..

Problem is the hoops you have to jump through to home school. Will still do it but the system makes it a living hell at first. Welfare checks to make sure you’re not harming the kids etc. 

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1 hour ago, Mr M said:

Exactly. The only response to the vaccines 'not working' seems to be vax harder.

 

But it's all about creating the narrative that we'll need regular booster updates going forward. With 'vaccine passports' forever just to function in society they'll then be able to inject you with anything they want at any time.

Spot on Sir! Apart from food necessities, I’m fairly self sufficient. As much as you reasonably can be on a small plot in U.K.  At least I know if push comes to shove I can outlast the chaos a good while. In theory😁

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54 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

That is moderna vaccine, not the biontech one that MHRA cite for their approval. I found another trial for the Chinese vaccine on children on that site as well. 

Sorry Sir. Researched last night after no sleep for 24 plus hours. After a while I think all the words look the same😂

just looked and saw straight away! Could have sworn searched for Pfizer. Goes to show they’ll send you where they want if you don’t check.

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2 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

Sorry Sir. Researched last night after no sleep for 24 plus hours. After a while I think all the words look the same😂

just looked and saw straight away! Could have sworn searched for Pfizer. Goes to show they’ll send you where they want if you don’t check.

 

No need to apologise, I almost posted this one https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04992260

 

Which is not even yet recruiting, so I am completely amazed that biontech has managed a study in 2000 children in such a short time frame. 

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2 hours ago, Sanityisgone said:


Sorry but I’m reading this and it seems they just vaccinate the subject then test for antibodies, then they call that 100% efficacy? Obviously if you inject something intended to create an immune response, it’s going to do exactly that? Am I missing something here? How does that prove anything? 

 

A bit like those programs with the germ obsessed where the tip a bottle of bleach on the kitchen sink, swab, and then say look no germs. Fricking idiots all of me

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5 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

No need to apologise, I almost posted this one https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04992260

 

Which is not even yet recruiting, so I am completely amazed that biontech has managed a study in 2000 children in such a short time frame. 

Just what I was thinking. Will be interesting to see how long they justify as sufficient trial time. Know it’s not been peer reviewed but that’s a given like the sun rising in the morning

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