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1 minute ago, elongated1 said:

I bet you, if anyone digs on the bastard.....you will find a trail. lol

 

I don't know if it's 'nice work', it's bloody frustrating. Basically what I mean is that we have no right to choose to come in contact with vaxx/unvaxx due to the Act.

 

Has the shedding issue been conclusively proven?

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1 minute ago, DarianF said:

 

No doubt employers will have to seek independent legal advice before they force employees to be jabbed. If that legal advice comes back that they could be in legal hot water if an employee dies or gets injured from a forced jab, it may be enough to allow you to call their bluff. Surely they must be nervous about it. And then their insurance... would an insurance company insure a business that forces an experimental jab? I don't think so. Not without a massive premium increase.

See this is the thing. They tell us that they cannot disclose vax status of workers, yet the employer demands your vax status..... get it?????!!!!!!!!!! Do they own your life now? Like your body is no longer yours. Who owns it? the pharmaceutical company, the government or the employer? Anyone else?

 

Well, someone SHOULD ask employer IN WRITING, whether their liability insurance covers what e.g. in case of death, life changing injury and cost of care/support? If they are putting your life at risk, let's lay it all out before get jabbed eh?

Dead man don't speak after all.

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2 minutes ago, DarianF said:

@elongated1 what about one's original pre-covid work contract.

 

i.e. when you agreed to work for the company, was there a policy saying you could be force vaccinated? If there wasn't, then wouldn't it come under breach of contract / unfair dismissal?

I think that probably stands but it won't work for people who chages job.

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1 minute ago, elongated1 said:

See this is the thing. They tell us that they cannot disclose vax status of workers, yet the employer demands your vax status..... get it?????!!!!!!!!!! Do they own your life now? Like your body is no longer yours. Who owns it? the pharmaceutical company, the government or the employer? Anyone else?

 

Well, someone SHOULD ask employer IN WRITING, whether their liability insurance covers what e.g. in case of death, life changing injury and cost of care/support? If they are putting your life at risk, let's lay it all out before get jabbed eh?

Dead man don't speak after all.

 

Great points. It's definitely a shitty situation.

 

But I'm certain there has to be some angle that can be used, especially considering these are not fully approved drugs. They have killed people, on record (not even denied by the companies. see: https://write.as/darianfentos/tag:Fatalities ), and the government and regulators admit openly IN WRITING that they are still being tested and there are serious gaps in knowledge.

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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Lol. Posobiec, forever gatekeeping and pointing in the wrong direction.

 

Nice one.

The thing is when you want a chop, the fuckers don't give you one quick enough because it's all about giving you the opposite of what you want. That's the nature of the psychopaths/narcs.

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3 minutes ago, elongated1 said:

No but we don't know about what undisclosed ingredients do either because of its mysterious nature.

 

There could be an angle in the description of the technology. Consider the following:
 

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The active substance of the COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is a multi-dose concentrate of RNA-containing lipid nanoparticles formulated in saline and sucrose to be diluted for intramuscular (IM) administration. A single vial contains 5 doses of 30 micrograms of BNT162b2 RNA (embedded in lipid nanoparticles).

COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is highly purified single-stranded, 5’-capped messenger RNA (mRNA) produced by cell-free in vitro transcription from the corresponding DNA templates.

COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 encodes a mutant viral spike (S) protein of SARS-CoV-2, with two point mutations inserted to lock S in an antigenically preferred prefusion conformation (P2 S). It is formulated as an RNA-lipid nanoparticle of nucleosidemodified mRNA containing N1-methylpseudouridine instead of uridine. Encapsulation into lipid nanoparticles enables transfection of the mRNA into host cells after intramuscular injection. During mixing of the RNA and the dissolved lipids, the lipids form the nanoparticles encapsulating the RNA. After injection, the lipid nanoparticles are taken up by the cells, and the RNA is released into the cytosol. In the cytosol, the RNA is translated into the encoded viral protein. The viral spike (S) protein antigen induces an adaptive immune response through neutralising antibodies. Furthermore, as the expressed spike (S) protein is being degraded intracellularly, the resulting peptides can be presented at the cell surface, triggering a specific T cell-mediated immune response with activity against the virus and infected cells.

 

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/summary-public-assessment-report-for-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine

 

I mean, for fucks sake. What could possibly go wrong. 🤣

 

Take that to an insurance company and ask them to insure a business who is forcing this new technology into you.

 

I think the insurance company would shit themselves at the obvious genetic fuckery taking place.

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2 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

Great points. It's definitely a shitty situation.

 

But I'm certain there has to be some angle that can be used, especially considering these are not fully approved drugs. They have killed people, on record (not even denied by the companies. see: https://write.as/darianfentos/tag:Fatalities ), and the government and regulators admit openly IN WRITING that they are still being tested and there are serious gaps in knowledge.

 

Yes you have a point and that's the point I'd argue. If someone wants to participate in the trial, it's their choice.

The fact seems to glide over their head, worst, lawyers don't wanna know. So let this be a warning to you.

I'm not discouraging you, of course one must still try but I'm just giving you guys heads up.

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1 minute ago, elongated1 said:

 

Yes you have a point and that's the point I'd argue. If someone wants to participate in the trial, it's their choice.

The fact seems to glide over their head, worst, lawyers don't wanna know. So let this be a warning to you.

I'm not discouraging you, of course one must still try but I'm just giving you guys heads up.

 

Lawyers love money. And they can be very narcissistic. You may be able to convince a brash, young, hungry lawyer to take on a case like this... just simply for the massive potential for fame and fortune if they win.

 

It could literally change history (because it's completely untested) and if you actually win and can sue, depending on who you are suing, you could be looking at a multi-multi million dollar suit.

 

Shit, if you find a lawyer with nothing to use, they might just be crazy enough to take it on.

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1 minute ago, DarianF said:

 

People changing jobs need to be super careful from now on. These sneaky bastards will try and add mandatory jab clauses to contracts.

Just like there are companies who caters/specialises for disabled people, people could start any business providing it for unvaccinated. This way, it supports the community. But since the government are busy trying to kill off small businesses, no doubt they will introduce something to disadvantage such businesses easily. If they could kill Buy-to-Let market and bring on mask wearing in a flash, anything can be done by the fuckers.

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1 minute ago, elongated1 said:

Just like there are companies who caters/specialises for disabled people, people could start any business providing it for unvaccinated. This way, it supports the community. But since the government are busy trying to kill off small businesses, no doubt they will introduce something to disadvantage such businesses easily. If they could kill Buy-to-Let market and bring on mask wearing in a flash, anything can be done by the fuckers.

 

We are in an 'all-bets-are-off' scenario. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. From chaos comes opportunity, especially for those who apply creativity.

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Many Kiwis are onto this BS... more than I thought...

F All views on the FB live tonight and F all comments...people are tuning out....

 

But way more like this than the opposite and bugger all anti-pushback... compared to even 6 months ago FB comments was (is) a cesspit of propaganda and  a pro-narrative echo chamber..- things must have been dropping to many despite our Govt being the Ministry of Truth... I find it comforting...

 

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@elongated1 - Apart from the safety gaps and obvious dangers with the vaccine, there's also an angle in the effectiveness.

 

Their argument in a nutshell is "you must get vaccinated to protect yourself from Covid-19, and protect others from the virus."

 

But by their own admission, you can still transmit the virus once you are vaccinated, and you can still develop Covid once you are vaccinated.

 

So if your employer is making the statement of fact that you must protect others by getting jabbed, where is their evidence that the jab you are taking actually stops others from getting Covid?

 

That's a major hole in their evidence/logic that needs to be explored.

 

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Oh and another big admission is they have no idea about the duration of protection offered by the jabs. All the poroduct info sheets say duration of protection unknown.

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Just now, DarianF said:

@elongated1 - Apart from the safety gaps and obvious dangers with the vaccine, there's also an angle in the effectiveness.

 

Their argument in a nutshell is "you must get vaccinated to protect yourself from Covid-19, and protect others from the virus."

 

But by their own admission, you can still transmit the virus once you are vaccinated, and you can still develop Covid once you are vaccinated.

 

So if your employer is making the statement of fact that you must protect others by getting jabbed, where is their evidence that the jab you are taking actually stops others from getting Covid?

 

That's a major hole in their evidence/logic that needs to be explored.

 

Agree and I'd hope so.....

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4 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Many Kiwis are onto this BS... more than I thought...

F All views on the FB live tonight and F all comments...people are tuning out....

 

But way more like this than the opposite and bugger all anti-pushback... compared to even 6 months ago FB comments was (is) a cesspit of propaganda and  a pro-narrative echo chamber..- things must have been dropping to many despite our Govt being the Ministry of Truth... I find it comforting...

 

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So much anger building among the normies. The sheep may just wake up after all.

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1 hour ago, DarianF said:

See: Exemptions to vaccination @BruiseL @elongated1

 

Medico‐legal considerations of mandatory COVID‐19 vaccination for high risk workers

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2021/215/1/medico-legal-considerations-mandatory-covid-19-vaccination-high-risk-workers

When all the thinking healthcare workers will leave their jobs, healthcare system will become real joke and massacre will start... 😩 

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2 minutes ago, elongated1 said:

 

Agree and I'd hope so.....

 

Astra says, "The duration of protection has not yet been established. Studies are ongoing." (p. 5). http://www.guildlink.com.au/gc/ws/astra/pi.cfm?product=appc19vx10721

 

So ask an employer, "okay if I take this forced jab, how long will I be protected for?"

 

If they can't answer, that's another bit of ammo to use against them. Ask them to put it in writing how long the jab will protect you.

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