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5 hours ago, bradlaw said:

So my job just informed of mandate vaccine, with only 2 exceptions: medical and religious reasons. Get this though if you refuse you have to be tested daily and take special learning courses (propaganda) Umm Nazi Germany Anyone ????!!

 

Want to contact a lawyer for discrimination, is this even legal ?

I would try legal action if it happens, if you do, might be worth making a thread on it, I’d be interested on your updates. Good luck with it all 

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5 hours ago, bradlaw said:

So my job just informed of mandate vaccine, with only 2 exceptions: medical and religious reasons. Get this though if you refuse you have to be tested daily and take special learning courses (propaganda) Umm Nazi Germany Anyone ????!!

 

Want to contact a lawyer for discrimination, is this even legal ?

 

All the vaccines contain GMO. There's a religious angle.

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5 hours ago, zArk said:

Fs

Vomited in my mouth reading this. 

I know the protest was clearly stated. All grown men , not a granny or hippie in sight

 

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/14/digested-week-could-anti-vaxx-protesters-be-any-dimmer

 

Digested week: could anti-vaxx protesters be any dimmer?

 Perhaps they’re anti-passport generally (the Venn diagram of anti-vaxxers and rabid Brexiters would, I suspect, be not far off a perfect circle), or maybe just pro-child death

 

Yes, yes... I refuse vaxx to stop climate change. I strongly believe in global warming... Pro depopulation. I'm with Greta Sieg Heil! 🤣

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I wonder if anybody else has noticed this.  In the last week or so, I've looked in the local supermarket two or three times and I've noticed that the number of people wearing masks has suddenly dropped off quite heavily.  It's gone from me being practically the only person in the entire place unmasked to maybe between 60/40 and 70/30 masked/unmasked.

 

I'm assuming this is the effect of (a). the vaccine, with people just assuming that having received both doses (and/or knowing that most others have) they can now disregard any mask mandates; and (b). fatigue over the whole thing, with enforcers gradually not bothering and abandoning it and people slowly taking cues from others and not bothering to mask up.

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-14/regional-nsw-in-covid-19-lockdown-joins-the-rest-of-the-state/100377702

 

The interesting statement in this artlcle which I think sums it all up is this :

 

Just hours before the lockdown was announced, the Australian Medical Association (AMA) NSW were calling for the whole state to be locked down. The President of the AMA (NSW) Danielle McMullen said (quote )

""My plea to the NSW government is that for the vaccination push strategy to work, we must lock all of NSW down."

 

So that to me seems like an admission that lockdowns are aimed at forcing people int getting vaccinated .

Further more she said " "Doctors from across NSW are exhausted and concerned for their community. Our already fragile rural and regional health system will be unable to cope with increases in cases. "

 

So Drs are" exhausted " and the rural health system will be overcome despite the fact that official figures show that as at today there have been in NSW 381 people hospitalised in the whole state and  of that number 62 are in ICU and 24 are on ventilators . And who knows how many if not all of these people have pre-existing conditions and are elderly ?

 

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59 minutes ago, Ergo Storm said:

I wonder if anybody else has noticed this.  In the last week or so, I've looked in the local supermarket two or three times and I've noticed that the number of people wearing masks has suddenly dropped off quite heavily.  It's gone from me being practically the only person in the entire place unmasked to maybe between 60/40 and 70/30 masked/unmasked.

 

I'm assuming this is the effect of (a). the vaccine, with people just assuming that having received both doses (and/or knowing that most others have) they can now disregard any mask mandates; and (b). fatigue over the whole thing, with enforcers gradually not bothering and abandoning it and people slowly taking cues from others and not bothering to mask up.

I was watching the footy last night (Norwuch game), the stadium was full, capacity I think, and saw only two masks when the camera showed the crowd, everybody else had theirs off. Very satisfying.  

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"We’ve booked a holiday for the end of September, as myself and DH are fully vaccinated we don’t have to quarantine on return.

My first vaccine was AstraZeneca and my second
was Pfizer.

I’ve read in the news tonight about the UK now changing their description of what counts as fully vaccinated, and it states that you have to have received two doses of the same vaccine."

 

 

*If you were vaccinated in 2 doses it must be with the same (MHRA, EMA, Swissmedic or FDA) approved vaccine. For example, if your first dose was Moderna your second dose must also be Moderna.*

 

 

 

They got screwed over again by 💉..I  feel sorry for them as they acted in good faith, but were idiots to trust gov on this.

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5 minutes ago, shadowmoon said:

"We’ve booked a holiday for the end of September, as myself and DH are fully vaccinated we don’t have to quarantine on return.

My first vaccine was AstraZeneca and my second
was Pfizer.

I’ve read in the news tonight about the UK now changing their description of what counts as fully vaccinated, and it states that you have to have received two doses of the same vaccine."

 

 

*If you were vaccinated in 2 doses it must be with the same (MHRA, EMA, Swissmedic or FDA) approved vaccine. For example, if your first dose was Moderna your second dose must also be Moderna.*

 

 

 

They got screwed over again by 💉..I  feel sorry for them as they acted in good faith, but were idiots to trust gov on this.

 

To put it concisely ....... "It's all f***ed up !"

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2 hours ago, Ergo Storm said:

I wonder if anybody else has noticed this.  In the last week or so, I've looked in the local supermarket two or three times and I've noticed that the number of people wearing masks has suddenly dropped off quite heavily.  It's gone from me being practically the only person in the entire place unmasked to maybe between 60/40 and 70/30 masked/unmasked.

 

I'm assuming this is the effect of (a). the vaccine, with people just assuming that having received both doses (and/or knowing that most others have) they can now disregard any mask mandates; and (b). fatigue over the whole thing, with enforcers gradually not bothering and abandoning it and people slowly taking cues from others and not bothering to mask up.

Tesco's.. fewer masks, Sainsburys.. masks, gloves,  the works. 🤷‍♂️

I kinda liked it it when it was just me lol..(ok I didn't  really. )

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5 hours ago, DarianF said:

Hey @BruiseL I forgot to mention something earlier, which may help against your employer.

 

Okay, go to the FDA documents [ https://write.as/darianfentos/essential-regulatory-documentation-how-to-locate-covid-vaccine-product ]. This is really, really important.

 

On each document, read the section titled: "INFORMATION TO PROVIDE TO VACCINE RECIPIENTS/CAREGIVERS". They all have the same section, but let's take the Pfizer vaccine as an example:

 

Source: This document, pp. 8-9: https://www.fda.gov/media/144413/download

 

 

You need to grill the shit out of your employer to the same standards. There must be a similar set of instructions to UK health providers. You have the right to refuse, and you must DEMAND the full product information sheets. Demand they give it to you, and make them sit there while you read all the dangers listed.

 

Do the same kind of thing to your employer. Don't let them bully you. And make sure they know you will be consulting a lawyer on the fact they are threatening you to get an unapproved drug with KNOWN and POTENTIAL serious risks which included death.

 

Save this quote:

 

"Additional adverse reactions, some of which may be serious, may become apparent with more widespread use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine." (this document, page 8: https://www.fda.gov/media/144413/download ). Make sure your lawyer sees it. And let the employer know they are on notice. Fuck em. Go on the attack.

 

Note the FDA's definition of 'serious' includes DEATH.  SAME DOCUMENT PAGE #10.

 

Yes that's right the drug company itself says you may literally die by taking their product. And your employer is willing to risk your death? No, don't allow them to bully you. You can rip the shit out of them legally. But make sure your lawyer is educated on this. Make sure they have all the documents first. Take them through it all step by step. Then they will have the ammunition against your employer.

 

How dare they. Screw them.

Thanks for all your help!! I fully intend to screw them!

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9 minutes ago, BruiseL said:

Unfortunately they would know at work that it's a lie. 

 

 

In R Wilkinson v Broadmoor : [2001] EWCA Civ 1545, Lady Justice Hale, Supreme Court President, confirmed that forced medical procedure without informed consent "may be sued in the ordinary way for the (common law) tort of battery"

 

In the judgement it was held that acting under statutory authority provides no defence, therefore the Employer will be guilty of coercion on the threat of battery with regards to unlawful dismissal if express evidence of denial of informed consent are unlawfully rejected.

 

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21 minutes ago, Anders said:

 

To put it concisely ....... "It's all f***ed up !"

By this standard they will never be able to go abroad for a holiday again.! 

The exact reason why many were tricked into getting it to start with was holidays abroad.

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4 hours ago, Human10 said:

Yes, yes... I refuse vaxx to stop climate change. I strongly believe in global warming... Pro depopulation. I'm with Greta Sieg Heil! 🤣

 

Some - perhaps most - 'deep green' climate change fanatics do view the mass of humanity as an infection of the ecosystem, an excrescence on planet earth that's best removed.

 

Doctor Bill's miracle serum might be intended to serve that very purpose....

 

 

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32 minutes ago, shadowmoon said:

By this standard they will never be able to go abroad for a holiday again.! 

The exact reason why many were tricked into getting it to start with was holidays abroad.

I find jabbed test subjects react most unfavourably when asked how their summer holidays/travelling went and to add the icing on the cake i also ask them if they have made a will,Inevitably they ask why i'm asking if they have made a will to which i reply that they probably wont have need for their xmas card list either.

 

I'm past giving them any form of sympathy or empathy

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1 hour ago, BruiseL said:

Thanks for all your help!! I fully intend to screw them!

 

You're welcome. Also, this might help too:

 

 

Remember. A big part of the principle of informed consent is without pressure or threats. For example:

 

"The consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without disadvantage or prejudice." [ http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=31058&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html - see Article 6, Consent) ]

 

If a doctor threatens you with consequences for not taking a medical treatment, they can lose their license or even go to jail.

 

Why should your employer be above this universal principle and human right? Keep that in mind too.

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1 hour ago, shadowmoon said:

"We’ve booked a holiday for the end of September, as myself and DH are fully vaccinated we don’t have to quarantine on return.

My first vaccine was AstraZeneca and my second
was Pfizer.

I’ve read in the news tonight about the UK now changing their description of what counts as fully vaccinated, and it states that you have to have received two doses of the same vaccine."

 

 

*If you were vaccinated in 2 doses it must be with the same (MHRA, EMA, Swissmedic or FDA) approved vaccine. For example, if your first dose was Moderna your second dose must also be Moderna.*

 

 

 

They got screwed over again by 💉..I  feel sorry for them as they acted in good faith, but were idiots to trust gov on this.

People need to not just complain about this but take them to task about it legally. Shouldn't be allowed to just get away with this behaviour.

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1 hour ago, BruiseL said:

Unfortunately they would know at work that it's a lie. 

 

Company:

 

"We demand proof of your vaccination."

 

You:

 

"Sorry. You don't have any right to know my private medical records, which includes my vaccination records. Only my doctor is allowed to know that. And my doctor is not authorised to disclose that information to you without my express permission. And I have not authroised my doctor to disclose my medical history to you under any circumstances."

 

Company:

 

But are you vaccinated against Covid?

 

You:

 

 

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5 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

Company:

 

"We demand proof of your vaccination."

 

You:

 

"Sorry. You don't have any right to know my private medical records, which includes my vaccination records. Only my doctor is allowed to know that. And my doctor is not authorised to disclose that information to you without my express permission. And I have not authroised my doctor to disclose my medical history to you under any circumstances."

 

Company:

 

But are you vaccinated against Covid?

 

You:

 

 

Brilliant! 😂

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