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On 8/3/2021 at 12:00 PM, Macnamara said:

i think that is the hard truth

the elites don't mind people gathering and waving placards. They even allocate licences and places to do it in

They will let people put up giant Tv screens in trafalgar square and make speeches on a stage. Its a good release valve for people

The elites are fine with it because it doesn't challenge anything they are doing directly

Now if everyone got rid of their smart devices.....the elites would not like that at all

 

I was listening to Gareth speaking to the event organiser who put up the TV screen in trafalgar square and she said she did not get a license for that she just put it up so i just want to clarify that point so as to not be unfair to her

 

But in terms of discussing a multi-form approach to defeating the conspiracy and in terms of seeing protest in its various forms within that context my point still stands about the state allowing space for protest. A recent example was the protest zone arranged for the G7 summit which was no where near the bay where the summit was being held which meant that the protestors wouldn't be seen by anyone at the summit nor by the cameras of the worlds media but the state allocated some space for people to go and let off steam

 

The protests have been great and have helped build momentum and no doubt people are also building connections and expanding their networks so i'm not wanting to diminish them

 

I was just trying to expand the process beyond merely protesting but maybe i was a bit blunt in how i put that across out of frustration with the process

 

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Just now, Captainlove said:

There arent many wokers,they are just gobby which makes them seem bigger than they really are.

 

lots are paid to troll via Soros & co for the media but think youll find theres millions of tools in this country who support the climate scam & the same mentalists that want to let illegals in to cause more chaos & gridlock In a tiny overpopulated island.

 

You saw how many of the population gladly bent over for lockdown, masked up for communism & got jabbed. I like your optimism tho Captain.😉

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24 minutes ago, Fluke said:

we continue to HOLD the line.  

I know some people might find that elitist or pretentious but yeah yeah some of us here haven't got anyone who feels the same way or similar to they do. And it becomes extremely lonely.  

 

you know for all the trouble this path may have caused many of us in our lives if we had not walked it or listened to people like david icke we'd likely be jabbed right now

 

in the long game, at least so far, being a 'conspiracy theorist' is paying off and even if the worst happened and they rounded us up to go to fema camps i'd still salute people like david for giving it a damn good go

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13 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

I was listening to Gareth speaking to the event organiser who put up the TV screen in trafalgar square and she said she did not get a license for that she just put it up so i just want to clarify that point so as to not be unfair to her

 

Was it Fiona Hine of Covileaks?

 

She doesn't help the movement at all by her antics.  I would even suggest she's CO

 

 

 

Katie Hopkins who imo is UK intelligence interviewed her way back and that's possibly why

Hopkins was on the stage in Trafalgar Square last month.

 

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/08/britains-first-test-case-under-covid-laws-katie-hopkins/

 

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6 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

lots are paid to troll via Soros & co for the media but think youll find theres millions of tools in this country who support the climate scam & the same mentalists that want to let illegals in to cause more chaos & gridlock In a tiny overpopulated island.

You saw how many of the population gladly bent over for lockdown, masked up for communism & got jabbed. I like your optimism tho Captain.😉

 

its strange because during brexit many people were beginning to see the obvious anti-british bias of the BBC. They were also beginning to see how globalist the political class were

 

Yet as soon as covid came along all those gains in terms of waking up seemed to just go out of the window.

 

Why would they trust the very same people they had come to realise were working for the destruction of their nation state with an experimental jab? I think there has just been so much saturation of fear and also i think the peer pressure has been greater with this covid malarky then with brexit even

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8 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Was it Fiona Hine of Covileaks?

 

She doesn't help the movement at all by her antics.  I would even suggest shes CO

 

no comment

 

i don't want to get dragged into any drama

 

i just felt that someone needed to make the pro-personal responsibility argument so i did. I felt like in all the tumult of the protesting that concept of creating change by BEING the change in your life didn't seem to be part of the mix; i also felt that seeing the whole covid-hysteria within the context of the smart-grid agenda also needed to be emphasized especially at this time when more people are starting to really pay attention to the independent arena

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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

no comment

 

i don't want to get dragged into any drama

 

i just felt that someone needed to make the pro-personal responsibility argument so i did. I felt like in all the tumult of the protesting that concept of creating change by BEING the change in your life didn't seem to be part of the mix

 

Perhaps you should do some independent research about said person.

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11 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

you know for all the trouble this path may have caused many of us in our lives if we had not walked it or listened to people like david icke we'd likely be jabbed right now

 

in the long game, at least so far, being a 'conspiracy theorist' is paying off and even if the worst happened and they rounded us up to go to fema camps i'd still salute people like david for giving it a damn good go

Yeah agreed. I was going to mention you in that comment in regards to how hard truths about technology and how are smart devices are bad news. We need to be reminded of this too. I know I'm not doing enough personally. But I haven't let this pysop drive me completely mad just yet 👍

 

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We’ve been fooled – two jabs won’t buy you holiday freedom after all

Data is proving that the vaccines don’t block transmission, a development that could prompt tighter travel restrictions once more

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Well, that didn’t last long. For a couple of months, it really looked like being double-jabbed might buy you a ticket to free (ish) travel. More than that, it was our only exit strategy from this vicious circle of lockdowns at home. But new evidence has thrown all this into doubt.

Anti-vaxxers will delight in this latest development: that being jabbed won’t stop you spreading the extra-infectious delta variant after all. It certainly protects you personally, to a high degree, from serious symptoms and death – but the vast majority of us weren’t at risk of that anyway. 

What it won’t do, according to an increasing body of evidence, is prevent you from being a carrier and thus a danger to others. This somewhat defeats the whole point – and is certainly the only reason international travel has resumed of late. 

Last week, in news that hasn’t got nearly enough airtime, Public Health England said in a statement: "Some initial findings [...] indicate that levels of virus in those who become infected with Delta having already been vaccinated may be similar to levels found in unvaccinated people. This may have implications for people's infectiousness, whether they have been vaccinated or not.”

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What this means, in plain terms, is that those NHS Covid passes we’ve been using to escape quarantine both when visiting other countries and upon our return are going to plummet in value. 

Already, UK festivals and other mass events are switching their entry requirements to require a negative test of everyone – regardless of vaccination status. International travel schemes such as the EU Covid certificate, will likely follow. Masks are back in America, where the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has reversed its guidance on the double-jabbed being exempt.

Many will feel cheated by this. Certainly, the reason I rolled up my sleeve in the first place was not because I was afraid of Covid, but solely to get my freedoms back. I really did not want to get jabbed; for the same reason I’ve never got the flu shot, because personally I’d rather take my chances on catching the illness. Based on the Government’s own QCovid risk calculator tool, my risk – as a reasonably healthy 34-year-old – of being hospitalised with Covid-19 is 0.0218 per cent, and my risk of dying is 0.0007 per cent. 

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This should have been my gamble alone to take, but it has been a deeply unpopular and ‘selfish’ stance. Since the early days of the drive, it’s been rammed down our throats that in getting vaccinated, we were doing a public service to others. It was our only chance to reach ‘herd immunity’, we were urged – (a notion that has since been branded an unattainable ‘mythical’ goal by the director of the Oxford Vaccine Group).

Lo and behold, as data from the UK, the US and beyond is proving, the vaccines might well save you, but they won’t save everyone else. The messaging has thus changed.

Professor Francois Balloux, director of the UCL Genetics Institute, stated this week: “It is not so much anymore a ‘duty to others’ to get vaccinated but a protection for oneself. There won't be any 'herd immunity wall' to hide behind.”

Why, then, should we vaccinated Britons, from a nation where the delta variant is dominant, be any ‘safer’ as tourists in other countries to the un-vaxxed? With the science now clear that people around the world are still passing the virus to and fro despite being inoculated, the beleaguered travel industry – and our chance at recapturing freedom of movement – has hit another major stumbling block. 

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The warning signs were there months ago, when the countries with the highest vaccination rates in the world were also recording enormous surges in case counts. Many of these, heavily reliant on tourism for their GDP, had rushed to inoculate their entire populations as a matter of urgency purely for this reason: to reopen for visitors. 

The Seychelles, for example, had by mid-May double-jabbed more than 80 per cent of its population, but regardless, its case count was 67 times higher than ours. According to Telegraph's live tracker, it has now vaccinated over 92 per cent of its citizens and its current infection rate is still a massive 336 per 100,000. Fat lot of good their drive did them, as the islands continue to languish on our red list.

The good news is that the vaccines have done their job in drastically reducing illness and death. And that while testing will likely be here to stay for some time should we wish to travel, the exorbitant cost will hopefully come down.

But all those with a saviour complex who had their jabs in an evangelical quest to ‘protect others’ should dismount their high horse. And all those who did so purely in pursuit of an easier holiday have every right to feel grumpy.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/comment/fooled-two-jabs-wont-buy-holiday-freedom/

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Human10 said:

Well - In this case maybe he bite it's own tongue and died of own venom - not necessary vaccine...

 

yes he certainly seemed to have a bad dose of vindictivitus

 

in my experience it is very common amongst so called 'liberals', 'wokesters', 'social justice warriors' and all the other people who internally feel that they are not really very empowered

 

unfortunately when you get yourself into massive debt gaining a course in environmental feminism it won't lead to the true empowerment of actually being able to do something useful in the world and as the surface gloss of virtue signalling wears off in the face of reality outside of the university bubble that initial faux-virtue glow could then evaporate to leave a fair degree of bitterness which if there was any justice in the world would then be directed at all the clowns who steered that person down that pointless path but instead will more than likely be directed at 'conservative' people who have meanwhile just got on with life

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33 minutes ago, BossCrow said:

Poor girl. Can anyone translate what she's saying here?

 

29 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

those so called 'health professionals' are clearly acting against that persons will. That is assault and battery

 

I'll stop there before i say anymore

 

She wanted to get vaccinated but is afraid of vaccines? (that's what she says in her latest video bellow) Since she posted that viral video for views/likes/ whatever and since the whole thing blew up she removed it.

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

those so called 'health professionals' are clearly acting against that persons will. That is assault and battery

 

I'll stop there before i say anymore

 

I thought they were letting children decide their own fate, I guess only when it goes against the parents wishes. 

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16 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Perhaps you should do some independent research about said person.

 

i have logged a mental note about your concern

 

i'm not going to invest too much energy in that area though. The whole thrust of my argument is that in order to win this thing we have to make our LIFE the protest not just some occaisional event we attend and that lady or piers corbyn or anyone else are not directly a part of my life

 

yes i'll keep some peripheral awareness of that side of things because i want to keep a bead on the general lay of the land but i want to put my energies into changing my own life to make it less and less in synch with the archontic agenda......not on the same frequency

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2 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

I thought they were letting children decide their own fate, I guess only when it goes against the parents wishes. 

 

heads they win, tails you lose...

 

'my body my choice' unless apparently you are a 13 year old girl in which case it is apparently ok for doctors to rape her with needles and toxins

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10 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

its strange because during brexit many people were beginning to see the obvious anti-british bias of the BBC. They were also beginning to see how globalist the political class were

 

Yet as soon as covid came along all those gains in terms of waking up seemed to just go out of the window.

 

Why would they trust the very same people they had come to realise were working for the destruction of their nation state with an experimental jab? I think there has just been so much saturation of fear and also i think the peer pressure has been greater with this covid malarky then with brexit even

 

Its truly pathetic, media virus done a number on them I guess is all you can say.

 

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