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The madness that is Australia -holding its citizens hostage till they get the jab  😒 and locking down Canberra because of one positive test -yet managing to convince the public there is a deadly pandemic that needs Police and Military intervention

 

 

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/canberra-records-new-case-of-covid-19-sending-act-into-lockdown/100370616

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/nsw-records-345-covid-19-cases/100370274

 

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/top-cop-takes-control-of-worsening-outbreak-as-inner-sydney-warned-of-more-restrictions-20210811-p58hvc.html

 

 

 

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Frans Kuiper 3 days ago from Spreaker.com
Just taking a stand against government measures such as the lockdowns, the mask mandates and health passports does not make us the good guys. The lockdowns, mask mandates and health passports aren’t the actual problem—they are symptoms of the problem.

 

The real problem is our belief in authority—the belief that some people have more rights than others. It is the belief that some can rightfully command others. It is the belief that some are rightful masters while others have a moral obligation to obey.

 

If we are truly being honest with ourselves, the belief in the moral legitimacy of authority is the belief that slavery is morally legitimate. 

This belief is the real virus and this belief is what has morally infected the overwhelmingly vast majority of the human population.

Most people still believe in the authority of government with religious fervour— not only is the belief in the moral legitimacy of government a false religion which is antithetical to true morality, but the belief in authority in general is the textbook definition of a cult.

 

A cult is formed when adherents to a false belief system become physically dangerous to those who do not adhere to its sick beliefs by conducting and condoning violence and coercion against the non-believers. The belief in government is the belief that some people have the so-called right to engage in violence and coercion against others who have not initiated aggression against others.

The very belief of condoning such an immoral condition makes someone a bad person. Most people today want to end the lockdowns because the lockdowns affect them personally, but if actually given the chance, they would have government coerce others in whatever ways they want if they held its rein. Most people don’t want to dismantle the very apparatus of government—they want to control it. They want to wield it and they wrongly believe they can control such an immoral institution.

 

Just ask yourself this simple question—was the very concept of kingship in the old world ever morally legitimate? Was it ever morally legitimate for a king to claim that he is the ruler over everyone in the land that constituted his kingdom? That his word was law and that anyone who disobeyed his edicts would be subject to the violence of his order following henchmen? Was that ever morally legitimate? What has really changed in the modern world? Nothing has changed today. Most people do not believe in the authority of kings and queens but we have merely replaced the concept of kingship with the concept of authority vested in government.

 

Anyone who supports and condones the very belief in government is actually in a cult.

They are cult members and almost all of them don’t even know that they’re members of a cult. Those who believe in and support the continuation of this cult by their own beliefs are supporters of slavery and believe that the condition of slavery should continue. Everyone who adheres to this cult belief system is complicit in what is happening and is bringing even worse conditions down upon themselves and everyone else.
 

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Bullion said:

They’ve just got to address these crazzeee conspiracy theories 😂 before the natives are overwhelmingly restless 

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Well he did use the phrase New World Order I ve seen it myself and there are US troops stationed in the Northenr territory -who knows for what real purpose ? And there is definitely a totalitarian Government that now wants to shut down Canberra because one person had  a positive test -oh and not forgetting the 2 men in their 90's who died in NSW "with Covid " .

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7 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

i'm not 'forcing' my views on you anymore than you are 'forcing' your views on me

 

how come when i say what i think i am 'forcing' my views but when you say what you think that is ok?

 

its a public forum and we are all sharing our views. Now not every viewpoint is of equal value. Some contain more truth than others and some are founded upon deeper foundations of information and knowledge than others

 

Example A: ''smart phones are totally healthy and there is no smart grid''

 

v's

 

Example B: ''smart phones are unhealthy in a variety of ways and are part of a smart grid''

 

Example B is objectively more truthful than example A

 

 

Of course they will be linked to you because they have your voice pattern biomettrics

 

 

and the rest of the time its in your pocket against your body?``

 

 

I don't agree with that in the same way that devices like alexa are recording everyones voice pattern biomettrics and feeding it all back to a central source

 

That is the whole point of 'smart' devices: that they send back data to a central source which will be an artificial intelligence that will run the smart-grid

 

 

people who have smart phones are being followed by GPS positioning as well as through their phone constantly pinging nearby cell phone towers

 

On top of that the police are tracking everyones phones using STINGRAY so they know where you are

 

 

The authorities know who owns each smart phone regardless of whether or not people download the track and trace app

 

 

you and millions of others engaging with smart tech is what makes it an inevitability

 

if you refused to do that like i am then it would not be possible and that's the hard truth.

 

``i'm not 'forcing' my views on you anymore than you are 'forcing' your views on me``

 

NO, I dont claim to be right all the time like you do. What I actually said was that not everything you say is right - it comes down to perspective and opinion...and you dont like people to disagree with you. I dont care who agrees or disagrees with me... I say my piece and keep educating myself. We arent clones of each other.

 

``how come when i say what i think i am 'forcing' my views but when you say what you think that is ok?``

 

Its not about saying what you think...its about saying you are right all the time which you have said in the current topic. You need to allow for other opinions...You keep harping on to me about Smart phones and yet I have answered you several times.... penny doesn't drop, because you dont see what anyone else says to be of any interest.

 

``its a public forum and we are all sharing our views. Now not every viewpoint is of equal value. Some contain more truth than others and some are founded upon deeper foundations of information and knowledge than others

 

Example A: ''smart phones are totally healthy and there is no smart grid''

 

v's

 

Example B: ''smart phones are unhealthy in a variety of ways and are part of a smart grid''

 

Example B is objectively more truthful than example A``

 

Again, I havent said Smartphones are healthy...hence why i do not have one...

 

 

``Of course they will be linked to you because they have your voice pattern biomettrics``

 

You can use voice altering equipment - besides you`d have to have `the voice`` and the ID.

 

 

``and the rest of the time its in your pocket against your body?``

 

No it isnt

Again with the Smart phone stuff.... I TOLD you I dont have Smart phone - so why keep bleating to me about it. FFS

 

 

``I don't agree with that in the same way that devices like alexa are recording everyones voice pattern biomettrics and feeding it all back to a central source

 

That is the whole point of 'smart' devices: that they send back data to a central source which will be an artificial intelligence that will run the smart-grid``

 

That may be so - but this wasnt the initial part of our conversation. However, I dont have ``Alexa`` or similar. 

 

 

``people who have smart phones are being followed by GPS positioning as well as through their phone constantly pinging nearby cell phone towers``

 

This wasnt part of our initial discussion...so no point arguing the toss now. You keep adding to your position to gain ground...its nauseating.

 

``On top of that the police are tracking everyones phones using STINGRAY so they know where you are``

 

Not mine...dont have one...change number regularly on cheapo phone.

 

 

``The authorities know who owns each smart phone regardless of whether or not people download the track and trace app

you and millions of others engaging with smart tech is what makes it an inevitability

if you refused to do that like i am then it would not be possible and that's the hard truth.``

 

AGAIN... why are you telling me over and over about Smart phones and linking me to your continuum... I do not have one... this is what I mean... you like the sound of your own voice too much. Thats my gripe with you.... now again ...I do not have a Smart phone...it is not about Smart phones...its about only seeing your view and droning on ... I have no Smart Phone. 

 

 

Now to keep this on topic... during this Plannedemic...phones have been useful to bring together protesters... and like minds... There has been some positive to phone use... thats my opinion. Take it or leave it... I care not.

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Thought this was worth sharing 

 

Frans Kuiper 3 days ago from Spreaker.com
Just taking a stand against government measures such as the lockdowns, the mask mandates and health passports does not make us the good guys. The lockdowns, mask mandates and health passports aren’t the actual problem—they are symptoms of the problem.

 

The real problem is our belief in authority—the belief that some people have more rights than others. It is the belief that some can rightfully command others. It is the belief that some are rightful masters while others have a moral obligation to obey.

 

If we are truly being honest with ourselves, the belief in the moral legitimacy of authority is the belief that slavery is morally legitimate. 

This belief is the real virus and this belief is what has morally infected the overwhelmingly vast majority of the human population.

Most people still believe in the authority of government with religious fervour— not only is the belief in the moral legitimacy of government a false religion which is antithetical to true morality, but the belief in authority in general is the textbook definition of a cult.

 

A cult is formed when adherents to a false belief system become physically dangerous to those who do not adhere to its sick beliefs by conducting and condoning violence and coercion against the non-believers. The belief in government is the belief that some people have the so-called right to engage in violence and coercion against others who have not initiated aggression against others.

The very belief of condoning such an immoral condition makes someone a bad person. Most people today want to end the lockdowns because the lockdowns affect them personally, but if actually given the chance, they would have government coerce others in whatever ways they want if they held its rein. Most people don’t want to dismantle the very apparatus of government—they want to control it. They want to wield it and they wrongly believe they can control such an immoral institution.

 

Just ask yourself this simple question—was the very concept of kingship in the old world ever morally legitimate? Was it ever morally legitimate for a king to claim that he is the ruler over everyone in the land that constituted his kingdom? That his word was law and that anyone who disobeyed his edicts would be subject to the violence of his order following henchmen? Was that ever morally legitimate? What has really changed in the modern world? Nothing has changed today. Most people do not believe in the authority of kings and queens but we have merely replaced the concept of kingship with the concept of authority vested in government.

 

Anyone who supports and condones the very belief in government is actually in a cult.

They are cult members and almost all of them don’t even know that they’re members of a cult. Those who believe in and support the continuation of this cult by their own beliefs are supporters of slavery and believe that the condition of slavery should continue. Everyone who adheres to this cult belief system is complicit in what is happening and is bringing even worse conditions down upon themselves and everyone else.
 

 

 

out of likes -very interesting

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5 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

 

I'm afraid there isn't a safe or careful way to use smart tech. The only safe and careful way is not to use it. I can understand there might be some reflex resistance to this notion, but nobody here who is bringing this to public attention is doing so for nefarious means. We are trying to stop people from being physically harmed by the tech, as well as warning of the implications regarding personal freedom and all that stuff.

 

And equally, the phones are tracking you, profiling you, triangulating your position. It is not dependant on you giving up the info willingly and at the moments you want to. It is always going on. It is perhaps a natural instinct to believe you can exert a degree of autonomy over your usage and what is being taken from your device, but when it comes to this tech, ultimately all the control is with others.

 

I really don't see where this arrogance or ego in Mac's posts or attitude is. The personal attacks really aren't warranted or necessary. By all means disagree with what is being said, respectfully, but to just throw all these insults is pretty disappointing to see.

 

Not using SMART TECH.

 

It wasnt a personal attack....on `` Mac`` it was saying how he always has to be right and doesn't give credence to anyone else. He even said ``I am right``

 

Either way, thats my opinion. he can continue  to believe he is right all the time... That is a lie to say I have been insulting him.... so go back and find those insults. Compare what you find to opinion.

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22 minutes ago, zarkov said:

Thought this was worth sharing 

 

Frans Kuiper 3 days ago from Spreaker.com
Just taking a stand against government measures such as the lockdowns, the mask mandates and health passports does not make us the good guys. The lockdowns, mask mandates and health passports aren’t the actual problem—they are symptoms of the problem.

 

The real problem is our belief in authority—the belief that some people have more rights than others. It is the belief that some can rightfully command others. It is the belief that some are rightful masters while others have a moral obligation to obey.

 

If we are truly being honest with ourselves, the belief in the moral legitimacy of authority is the belief that slavery is morally legitimate. 

This belief is the real virus and this belief is what has morally infected the overwhelmingly vast majority of the human population.

Most people still believe in the authority of government with religious fervour— not only is the belief in the moral legitimacy of government a false religion which is antithetical to true morality, but the belief in authority in general is the textbook definition of a cult.

 

A cult is formed when adherents to a false belief system become physically dangerous to those who do not adhere to its sick beliefs by conducting and condoning violence and coercion against the non-believers. The belief in government is the belief that some people have the so-called right to engage in violence and coercion against others who have not initiated aggression against others.

The very belief of condoning such an immoral condition makes someone a bad person. Most people today want to end the lockdowns because the lockdowns affect them personally, but if actually given the chance, they would have government coerce others in whatever ways they want if they held its rein. Most people don’t want to dismantle the very apparatus of government—they want to control it. They want to wield it and they wrongly believe they can control such an immoral institution.

 

Just ask yourself this simple question—was the very concept of kingship in the old world ever morally legitimate? Was it ever morally legitimate for a king to claim that he is the ruler over everyone in the land that constituted his kingdom? That his word was law and that anyone who disobeyed his edicts would be subject to the violence of his order following henchmen? Was that ever morally legitimate? What has really changed in the modern world? Nothing has changed today. Most people do not believe in the authority of kings and queens but we have merely replaced the concept of kingship with the concept of authority vested in government.

 

Anyone who supports and condones the very belief in government is actually in a cult.

They are cult members and almost all of them don’t even know that they’re members of a cult. Those who believe in and support the continuation of this cult by their own beliefs are supporters of slavery and believe that the condition of slavery should continue. Everyone who adheres to this cult belief system is complicit in what is happening and is bringing even worse conditions down upon themselves and everyone else.
 

 

 

 

 

Thanks... I actually do agree with all thats written there. Class systems... Rich Man Poor Man BS....

 

In the press yesterday it said how the poor were not getting vaccines ....as if to say they were low intelligence and making bad choices.... sick of watching people conditioned by the press and the bastards behind it all.

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23 hours ago, DarianF said:

 

Well, I can see it from his perspective. He has spent the last 30 years trying to warn people about the coming global government police state command and control grid we are currently living under. Literal hell.

 

Of course it's natural he wants to believe all his work hasn't been wasted. But I seriously think he has miscalculated the numbers. There are a few awake people, but they are scattered and fragmented. The masses on the whole are completely asleep and not willing to listen to a single word that is not approved by their relevant chief medical officer.

 

I hate to say it, but I think we've lost... big time. I still admire David trying to warn people to the very end. It's admirable. But it's a losing battle.

I think we have to keep up hope and positive thinking ,negativity will just feed into this lie and those behind it .Its easy to get depressed ,disillusioned ,angry, sad ect ,Ive been through all of these in the last months .But we dont necessarily know whats going on behind the scenes locally or overseas in the way of opposition or action being planned . It might be easy to label it a comfort blanket ,but we can still stand up for what we believe while holding onto hope and try and pass on information and help others become more aware .We have to "hold the line " as they say .

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7 minutes ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

I think we have to keep up hope and positive thinking ,negativity will just feed into this lie and those behind it .Its easy to get depressed ,disillusioned ,angry, sad ect ,Ive been through all of these in the last months .But we dont necessarily know whats going on behind the scenes locally or overseas in the way of opposition or action being planned . It might be easy to label it a comfort blanket ,but we can still stand up for what we believe while holding onto hope and try and pass on information and help others become more aware .We have to "hold the line " as they say .

 

I agree, it doesn`t help to have people with a negative stance... If we all gave in to negativity we may as well go find a place to jump.  People need something to believe in and to fight for....for many it is their children and others its the  best for humanity. We may be seemingly gridlocked but I dont believe thats where it will end...

 

Maybe thats why the likes of Gates and Co are buying islands with barrier fencing.  They are targeted too if we think about it. They cant get away with this BS for much longer.... someone and something is going to snap... 

 

Whatever the outcome...staying positive is key... agree wholeheartedly.

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1 hour ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

out of likes -very interesting

 

A very lucid description of how deeply ingrained the conditioning is and how distorted perception has become to be so accepting.

 

The one thing the parasites cant control is the truth.

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2 hours ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

The madness that is Australia -holding its citizens hostage till they get the jab  😒 and locking down Canberra because of one positive test -yet managing to convince the public there is a deadly pandemic that needs Police and Military intervention

 

 

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/canberra-records-new-case-of-covid-19-sending-act-into-lockdown/100370616

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/nsw-records-345-covid-19-cases/100370274

 

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/top-cop-takes-control-of-worsening-outbreak-as-inner-sydney-warned-of-more-restrictions-20210811-p58hvc.html

 

 

 

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I'm confused with Australia, do the public know that the rules and lockdowns versus cases deaths are the most extreme in the world? I was speaking about this to my mrs last night and we couldn't work out if they knew how harsh the whole situation is over there? 

Also is the same going on in New Zealand? @skitzorat Aren't you from there? 

 

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23 hours ago, Given To Fly said:

if you know the programme 'derry girls', well there is a mural of them in derry which has become quite the tourist attraction, but now they are masked and have rainbow symbols on them

 

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two years ago they were normal college kids without the BS but now have been hijacked and perverted for an orwellian agenda.

 

To be fair, their future was stolen and their generation was destroyed and perferted long before this. Covid was just the final nail in the coffin.

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10 minutes ago, Dazzer said:

I'm confused with Australia, do the public know that the rules and lockdowns versus cases deaths are the most extreme in the world? I was speaking about this to my mrs last night and we couldn't work out if they knew how harsh the whole situation is over there? 

Also is the same going on in New Zealand? @skitzorat Aren't you from there? 

 

 

@Dazzer

 

Australia Has Fallen

https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=61086591e40d7c2536c15158

 

Military Enforcement Of COVID Tyranny Comes To Australia

https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=61130c77564c9244e5f541c4

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23 hours ago, Outsider said:

The psyop has effectively killed the proles desire, hope and longing. It has made them rather animalistic in that they seem to be solely based in the present with a reduced capacity to look back and forward into time, many are just existing in the now.  I get the feeling that there's no desire for anything anymore, certainly no desire to wake up. In fact waking up now (if you've been vaxed) is going to cause you a shed load of psychological problems.

I think the opposite is occuring in that more and more people are retreating into a deeper form of sleep because it's safer....being awake now is risky, frustrating and only seems to offer a frightening future.

 

I've spoken to some younger friends of mine. They have all openly accepted they "will never be able to travel again". The mass depression is setting in. They just accept it. There's no fight in them.

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On 8/11/2021 at 2:25 PM, skitzorat said:

Thank you. David doesn't get enough due-credit on these boards IMO - I see a lot of ill-will and negativity in comments tossed casually about, but rarely any praise.

 

I always found it totally bizarre that on these forums, the guy it's actually named after gets no love. He gets more respect outside his own website. Bloody truly weird, and frankly ungrateful and disrespectful.

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On 8/11/2021 at 2:05 PM, skitzorat said:

@DarianF

 

Speaking of which... this just in...

 

 

No matter how this all ends in the long term, one thing is for sure Andrews will NEVER be able to walk the streets safely again. Ever.

 

The best part was seeing Sutton shit his pants! hahaha.. paranoid, edgy much? they know they're on borrowed time.

 

Imagine how they will shit their pants if their police ever turn against them, or refuse to protect them. Then we will see what weak, pathetic little pieces of shit they are. Their power is an illusion.

 

It's easy to talk tough when you have men with guns all around you protecting you. Pathetic.

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2 hours ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

Well he did use the phrase New World Order I ve seen it myself and there are US troops stationed in the Northenr territory -who knows for what real purpose ? And there is definitely a totalitarian Government that now wants to shut down Canberra because one person had  a positive test -oh and not forgetting the 2 men in their 90's who died in NSW "with Covid " .

Yep of course it’s all true and in your face, and they’re so worried about it that they have to address it and try to discredit it. All around me people know what’s going on and it makes my life so much easier. I can’t imagine being surrounding by well meaning, yet naive and misguided gullibles who believe this is all about a virus 🦠 

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Welcome to Clown World. A nurse who is trying to save lives is demonised in the media:

 

German nurse accused of switching thousands of COVID-19 vaccines with saline solution

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/germany-nurse-saline-solution-switch-covid-vaccine/100370204

 

"The motive of the nurse, who was not named, was not clear but she had aired sceptical views about vaccines in social media posts, police investigators said."

 

If I had my way, she would be given some kind of hero award and a huge medal made of solid 99.99% gold fucking bullion.

 

Imagine how many lives she saved by not injecting this poison into innocent old people.

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8 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

I've spoken to some younger friends of mine. They have all openly accepted they "will never be able to travel again". The mass depression is setting in. They just accept it. There's no fight in them.

That's what I've found strange, the complete and utter lack of anger in those who've double jabbed. They've risked their lives in an experiment to enable what they perceived was hassle free travel abroad, but it was a scam, they've been sold a false promise!  This psyop has cleverly shrunk their worldview and seemingly removed many people's desire to experience the new, explore different lands, undertake an adventure, meet beautiful people from different cultures. People have become boring. Covid is boredom.

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3 minutes ago, DarianF said:

Welcome to Clown World. A nurse who is trying to save lives is demonised in the media:

 

German nurse accused of switching thousands of COVID-19 vaccines with saline solution

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/germany-nurse-saline-solution-switch-covid-vaccine/100370204

 

"The motive of the nurse, who was not named, was not clear but she had aired sceptical views about vaccines in social media posts, police investigators said."

 

If I had my way, she would be given some kind of hero award and a huge medal made of solid 99.99% gold fucking bullion.

 

Imagine how many lives she saved by not injecting this poison into innocent old people.

I wonder if these types of stories are mostly planted as a deterrent to anyone else thinking of sabotage..... if I were in these positions it’s definitely what I’d be doing, likewise if I were running a business.... as if I’d be policing QR codes or verifying if someone was from the city and shouldn’t be in the rural areas because of lockdown.

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