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wake_up_bomb Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 This is something you can try to explain to people to open their eyes. This is the total number of deaths that has occurred in the UK annually between 2000 and 2018: The peak number of deaths is 616,000, and the smallest number is 552,000. There have officially been approximately 40,000 deaths due to Covid-19. So the number of deaths from Covid is less than the difference between a year in which a lot of people die, and a year in which a relatively small number of people die. In fact, if the coronavirus had occurred in any of the years between 2005 and 2014, and 40,000 additional deaths were added to the figures for those years, there would still have been less deaths than there were in 2018, when there was no coronavirus. Also, 20,000 of the 40,000 deaths occurred in care homes. That's confirmed by the Office for National Statistics and the Lancet. Arguably this occurred due to...let's be generous and call them 'misguided' policies. Probably this number of people didn't need to die. But it's obviously a disproportionate number of elderly people, which should obviously tell us something significant, particularly when you also look at the government's own demographic figures: To give one example of the response to this, a Scottish doctor is suing the government, because she believes that its ill-thought out policy literally caused thousands of deaths. Furthermore, it's not even known why people with Covid have died, or if they even had the virus. There can be false positives, plus most people dying with Covid are indeed dying 'with' the virus, not 'due to' the virus, as is always officially asserted. For example, this BBC report notes that "the number of people worldwide who have died with Covid-19 has passed one million". There are thus definitely question marks about the 40,000 figure, which effectively represents the worst possible case scenario, and even then there have only been 20,000 deaths in the general population, which is approximately 3% of the overall annual deaths that would be expected. By comparison, there are 165,000 cancer deaths in the UK annually, and 170,000 deaths due to heart disease. In fact, there are nearly 50% as many deaths from these conditions as there are confirmed Covid cases, not deaths! In order for Covid to be as deadly as cancer and heart disease, it would need to have a 50% death rate, whereas The Pharmaceutical Journal notes that the Covid-19 death rate is 0.66%. This research also illustrates the reality of Covid for most people, which is that they contract it, they don't know that they've contracted it, they never experience any symptoms, their body fights it off, and they continue with their lives in blissful ignorance of this reality. Indeed, many of the assertions made about how dangerous Covid are derived from confirmed cases, and don't take into account the many unreported cases which inevitably exist. It has also been well-documented that hospitals and the healthcare system generally are less able to screen for and treat serious conditions, such as cancer and heart disease, due to the disproportionate focus on Covid. Again, if you take the example of the United States, the country that has dealt with Covid arguably the least capably, and which has the most cases, even if we take the worst case-scenario and attribute Covid to having caused every death with which it has been linked, if we ignore all underlying health conditions, all demographics, all other indicators, and just assume that Covid killed all of these people, and they all would have survived otherwise, the virus has still only killed 25% of the people that died from cancer and heart disease in the same period: Bear in mind that this is the scenario that would most benefit those that are tremulously terrified of Covid, and believe that it's the greatest threat to the human race ever. In reality, many of those people did die with underlying health conditions. Many died with the virus. Many would have died anyway. Meanwhile, hospital admissions are currently around 10% of the level at the peak of the pandemic: I'm willing to support the first lockdown to some extent, but the doomsday scenarios didn't happen. The health system didn't collapse, there were a relatively trivial number of deaths in statistical terms, and the number of deaths would have been way lower had it not been for the existence of care homes, which were subjected to a thoroughly bungled policy. There is nothing contentious about any of this. Everything here is based on official figures, official documents, and mainstream reporting. Continuing to lockdown large parts of the country at this time is poorly founded. I don't want to write extensively about the deleterious impact of the government's measures, because that would be speculative, but there is no doubt it will have a generational impact on the country as a whole, and that this will be felt particularly harshly by young people. It is not going to be possible to just turn the tap back on, and for everything to go back to normal. There has already been vast economic damage caused, the consequences of which will be felt, conservatively, for many years. Some of this has been outlined in this article. Japan, for example, had a 'lost decade' after an 'asset price bubble'. Even then its economy continued to grow. The UK economy slumped by 20% during the previous quarter, which is about ten times more than it fell during the 'global financial crisis': In short, Japan struggled massively for ten years after something considerably less serious than we're experiencing now. The amount of UK debt has quadrupled since 2008, and the country now faces the prospect of attempting to service this debt with a massively reduced economy. Even entire industries could potentially disappear. Meanwhile, the authorities are still talking about locking regions down, or even the entire country, over a virus that has proved to be relatively trivial. This can be shown statistically, but even if this is not accepted, the consequences of continuing to neglect more serious health conditions, not to mention the ongoing economic damage, will cause far more suffering than the regrettable problems caused by Covid. At this point, it has to be acknowledged that the policies related to Covid have profoundly failed. They haven't even prevented the spread of the virus because there are now officially more cases than at the peak of the lockdown! It has to similarly be acknowledged that these policies are doing more harm than good, and that simply isolating vulnerable people would have saved more lives than anything else. Simply by handling care homes better, more lives could have been saved than by all of the other onerous measures combined! Yet we're still allowing the authority that made these decisions to impose further restrictions on our lives, to barricade students in their university dorms, not even allowing them to return home for Christmas seemingly, and to screw over the lives of everyone generally, and young people in particular. All decision-making should be made on a cost-benefit basis, and it's crystal clear that the cost of the lockdown, the restrictions, the mask wearing, and the general climate of fear has been significantly greater than any benefits gleaned from them. Of course, it is sad when people die, but everybody dies. Risk cannot be eliminated from life. I would hope that young people in particular (not a term that applies to me any more, sadly!) would recognise that they're getting royally screwed over by these disastrous policies, and recognise that none of it is happening for their benefit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ziggy Sawdust Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Flu killed 10 times more people than the imaginary virus last week. That's the 14th week in a row. Strange that this fact never gets a mention in project fear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneantisworthtenofyou Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 17 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Musk is either a blatant mouthpiece, or he is blackpilled on AI and decided to join the dark side like Odds said. Zuckerberg seems artificial though. Musk not wanting to take the vaccine could be useful to help sheep begin to question the vaccine themselves the fewer people that take it the better musk is seen as an authority hierarchical figure by some sheeple because of his successful billionaire status i believe the sheep are more influenced by status or the source of information than the actual information itself so it's always going to be an uphill battle to convince them of anything outside the government narrative it's possible musk could promote a healthy curiosity in them with his objection to the vaccine whatever i think of musk or Hollywood types the sheeple are more likely to listen to these people than anyone else i have very little faith in the average persons ability to question authority and step outside the peer pressure to follow and comply they have to be "guided" in the correct direction unfortunately 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneantisworthtenofyou Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Hearing this sort of thing from various people children being made to watch the news propaganda at school 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 38 minutes ago, oneantisworthtenofyou said: Musk not wanting to take the vaccine could be useful to help sheep begin to question the vaccine themselves the fewer people that take it the better musk is seen as an authority hierarchical figure by some sheeple because of his successful billionaire status i believe the sheep are more influenced by status or the source of information than the actual information itself so it's always going to be an uphill battle to convince them of anything outside the government narrative it's possible musk could promote a healthy curiosity in them with his objection to the vaccine whatever i think of musk or Hollywood types the sheeple are more likely to listen to these people than anyone else i have very little faith in the average persons ability to question authority and step outside the peer pressure to follow and comply they have to be "guided" in the correct direction unfortunately Agreed, assuming he doesn't do a u-turn or push digital ID or biometrics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Manchester bar calls for pubs to ban MPs as Cancel the Curfew campaign launches https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/cancel-the-curfew-campaign-manchester-19016001 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Senator calls for army to take to streets as videos show hundreds of students flouting public-health guidelines in Galway https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/senator-calls-for-army-to-take-to-streets-as-videos-show-hundreds-of-students-flouting-public-health-guidelines-in-galway-39572290.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubsandwich Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Senator calls for army to take to streets as videos show hundreds of students flouting public-health guidelines in Galway https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/senator-calls-for-army-to-take-to-streets-as-videos-show-hundreds-of-students-flouting-public-health-guidelines-in-galway-39572290.html Students socialise and enjoy themselves - OUTRAGE! DEPLOY THE ARMY ASAP!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Care home nurse who claimed the pandemic is a hoax while protesting in her uniform against lockdown reveals she's been FIRED from her job but still insists she's seen 'no evidence' of a killer virus https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8785349/Care-home-nurse-sacked-claiming-pandemic-hoax-insists-shes-seen-no-evidence-cornavirus.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Manchester bar calls for pubs to ban MPs as Cancel the Curfew campaign launches https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/cancel-the-curfew-campaign-manchester-19016001 Parliament's bars are NOT subject to 10pm curfew and MPs don't have to give their contact details to get a drink Bars inside Parliament are exempt from the Government's new 10pm curfew Facilities serving inside Palace of Westminster are as a 'workplace canteen' Comes after a curfew was imposed on on pubs, bars and restaurants in England By Bhvishya Patel For Mailonline Published: 01:55, 28 September 2020 | Updated: 10:14, 28 September 2020 Drinking establishments inside Parliament are exempt from the Government's newly imposed 10pm curfew, it has been revealed. Facilities serving alcohol inside the Palace of Westminster are not required to abide by the coronavirus curfew which came into effect this week due to them being classified as a 'workplace canteen'. It comes just a week after the Prime Minister set out a raft of measures designed to clampdown on Covid-19, including imposing a 10pm curfew on all pubs, bars and restaurants in England. Despite the new measures, staff and visitors inside Parliament can still enter its handful of bars without being forced to leave at 10pm and are also not required to provide a name and contact number upon entry, The Times reported. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8779373/Parliaments-bars-NOT-subject-10pm-curfew.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) We need to mass produce badges that are yellow, six pointed stars with the word 'unvaccinated' on them When the government rolls out the vaccines and persecutes those who have not accepted the vaccine we should all wear our yellow star 'unvaccinated' badges everywhere we go Edited September 30, 2020 by Macnamara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Macnamara said: We need to mass produce badges that are yellow, six pointed stars with the word 'unvaccinated' on them When the government rolls out the vaccines and persecutes those who have not accepted the vaccine we should all wear our yellow star 'unvaccinated' badges everywhere we go Had a thought a while ago, not seen anyone else say it. I reckon if a vaccine eventually comes out the new law might initially be that anyone not vaccinated has to continue to wear a mask, thereby marking the "anti-vaxxers" and essentially serving the same purpose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Illmatic said: Had a thought a while ago, not seen anyone else say it. I reckon if a vaccine eventually comes out the new law might initially be that anyone not vaccinated has to continue to wear a mask, thereby marking the "anti-vaxxers" and essentially serving the same purpose. could be they would try and portray us as 'unclean' like lepers to be avoided and shunned by the vaccinated. Classic divide and rule In china if a persons social credit score drops too low the government leaves a message on their phone so that when anyone calls them the government warns that person not to associate with the target person or else risk seeing their own social credit score lowered These people are bullies 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartSpirit Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, Illmatic said: Had a thought a while ago, not seen anyone else say it. I reckon if a vaccine eventually comes out the new law might initially be that anyone not vaccinated has to continue to wear a mask, thereby marking the "anti-vaxxers" and essentially serving the same purpose. In that case they would have to remove the exemptions. I can totally see that happening with them saying that there’s no choice, it’s mask or vaccine in order to leave your house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Macnamara said: We need to mass produce badges that are yellow, six pointed stars with the word 'unvaccinated' on them When the government rolls out the vaccines and persecutes those who have not accepted the vaccine we should all wear our yellow star 'unvaccinated' badges everywhere we go I'd wear mine with pride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) Here it is. and I thought Covidmarshalls were bad enough now, this looks to be on the way, the little lambs will be policing the sheep too - received an email yesterday from our local school on behalf of the police. They are looking at recruiting 'junior' police officers - 8 - 18 to learn the ropes and dob in their fellow man and woman. They will be called mini-police or cadets or VPC's ....... apparently meaning 'Volunteer Police Cadet. But, in my opinion will be more accurately known as: "Very Precocious Cunt(s)" Here's some of the pdf contents of the email to me: (this is the description in 'letter to parents' pdf first:) The police officers, police staff and adult volunteers who support cadet units are expected, to uphold the highest standards in line with the values of British policing. The National VPC is a part of the wider National Citizens in Policing portfolio. All forces operate under the National Police Chiefs' Council supported framework, sharing the common Aims and Principles of the VPC across England & Wales. The purpose of the VPC is not to recruit police officers of the future, but to encourage the spirit of adventure and good citizenship amongst its members. We believe that every young person deserves the opportunity to thrive regardless of his or her background. We encourage young people from all backgrounds to join the VPC, including those who may be vulnerable to the influences of crime and social exclusion. The Aims of the VPC are: To promote a practical understanding of policing amongst all young people. To encourage the spirit of adventure and good citizenship. To support local policing priorities through volunteering and give young people a chance to be heard. To inspire young people to participate positively in their communities. The VPC, encompassing Mini Police, is a diverse group of young people aged 8 -18 years, who have a desire to support their local communities and gain a practical understanding of policing, developing their leadership skills by undertaking challenging social action projects in their communities. There is no expectation of forces to operate the entire Mini-Police & VPC offer and this is outlined in the strategy as an aspirational vision. The delivery and management of local units is supported by volunteers and other members of the Policing family which include police officers and police staff. We have a vision to be a world-class, socially inclusive uniformed youth group based on the values of British policing, demonstrating every day positive impact in our local communities. This is based on four national objectives. If your child is interested in becoming a VPC ( very precocious cunt ) please complete the attached survey. Then, we have another PDF containing the glossy 'SELL SELL SELL' shite: ******* Note in the above pic .... the: 'assisting with crime prevention' Like - not wearing a face panty-pad? Coughing? On the plus side they'll be easy to kick the pigshit out of. OINK OINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited August 23, 2022 by Bombadil space needed by member 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- TZC - Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said: OINK OINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the hell is going on in the bottom right. kung fu cop? Maybe there's an anti vaxxer under his foot. Edited September 30, 2020 by - TZC - trimmed to relevance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said: They are looking at recruiting 'junior' police officers - 8 - 18 to learn the ropes and dob in their fellow man and woman. From 2017: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, - TZC - said: the hell is going on in the bottom right. kung fu cop? Maybe there's an anti vaxxer under his foot. Oh shit yeah!? what's going on there? Well spotted TZC.... who the hell chose that? And also, there's no people of non-white description in there too - blm will be furious. Edited September 30, 2020 by sickofallthebollocks a naughty swear word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: From 2017: I'm sure they're responsible for alot of the 'karen's' and karen comments out there (sorry to anyone called karen out there - feel sorry it's been spun the way it has - I quite like that name) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- TZC - Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 They have a man sized doggie though, is that enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexpistol50 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said: Here it is. and I thought Covidmarshalls were bad enough now, this looks to be on the way, the little lambs will be policing the sheep too - received an email yesterday from our local school on behalf of the police. They are looking at recruiting 'junior' police officers - 8 - 18 to learn the ropes and dob in their fellow man and woman. They will be called mini-police or cadets or VPC's ....... apparently meaning 'Volunteer Police Cadet. But, in my opinion will be more accurately known as: "Very Precocious Cunt(s)" Here's some of the pdf contents of the email to me: (this is the description in 'letter to parents' pdf first:) The police officers, police staff and adult volunteers who support cadet units are expected, to uphold the highest standards in line with the values of British policing. The National VPC is a part of the wider National Citizens in Policing portfolio. All forces operate under the National Police Chiefs' Council supported framework, sharing the common Aims and Principles of the VPC across England & Wales. The purpose of the VPC is not to recruit police officers of the future, but to encourage the spirit of adventure and good citizenship amongst its members. We believe that every young person deserves the opportunity to thrive regardless of his or her background. We encourage young people from all backgrounds to join the VPC, including those who may be vulnerable to the influences of crime and social exclusion. The Aims of the VPC are: To promote a practical understanding of policing amongst all young people. To encourage the spirit of adventure and good citizenship. To support local policing priorities through volunteering and give young people a chance to be heard. To inspire young people to participate positively in their communities. The VPC, encompassing Mini Police, is a diverse group of young people aged 8 -18 years, who have a desire to support their local communities and gain a practical understanding of policing, developing their leadership skills by undertaking challenging social action projects in their communities. There is no expectation of forces to operate the entire Mini-Police & VPC offer and this is outlined in the strategy as an aspirational vision. The delivery and management of local units is supported by volunteers and other members of the Policing family which include police officers and police staff. We have a vision to be a world-class, socially inclusive uniformed youth group based on the values of British policing, demonstrating every day positive impact in our local communities. This is based on four national objectives. If your child is interested in becoming a VPC please complete the attached survey. Then, we have another PDF containing the glossy 'SELL SELL SELL' shite: OINK OINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hitler Youth 8-18 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, sickofallthebollocks said: I'm sure they're responsible for alot of the 'karen's' and karen comments out there (sorry to anyone called karen out there - feel sorry it's been spun the way it has - I quite like that name) No reactions, but agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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