Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Malbec said: This is horrific, but not that surprising... We are in a war. A spiritual war. Never in my lifetime have I seen such worldwide concentrated evil. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 I'm unvaccinated Last few days I have been feeling like utter shit rundown, chesty coughing. Did a lateral flow test the other day and came back negative but am seriously feeling wiped out. Was at a kids birthday party the other day and this little kid kept running around coughing everywhere. He had a upper respiratory infection according to father. So I'm hoping what I have is that but serious I feel terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed8 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Covidiot said: I'm feeling very deflated these days and sometimes I just wish they would hurry up with the endgame. If it's genocide get the fuck on with it. What we are in just now this covid limbo is stressing me the fuck out. Just fuckin lock us down and wipe us the fuck out already will ya! Wtf is goin on? It's like watching paint dry ffs and it's just freinforcing in the sheeple that we are just conspiracy nutcases. Just try to enjoy life and ignore media. A lot of nutcases have sadly jumped on our bandwagon and as a result, arguments against lockdown and vax are sounding increasingly deranged, rather that the measured logic they used to be. In local telegram groups, a few of the most vocal anti-vaxxers are nutcases into Q crap, they post old and patently false info from discredited sources, they have the same psychological biases as the sheep and are hostile when you point facts out to them. There seems to be a dearth of factual analysis recently. I used to follow Bhakdi and other doctors regularly, but I'm slowly losing confidence in them and their doomsday predictions, the longer things go on and the majority are totally fine (although I acknowledge a lot of people have severe vax side effects). His most recent letter was just a rehash of things he'd previously said, with citations from doctors reporting rare severe side effects https://doctors4covidethics.org/leaky-blood-vessels-an-unknown-danger-of-covid-19-vaccination/ so what? I certainly won't be getting the vax and I continue to resist. However, where I previously felt there must be a bigger agenda behind getting everyone injected with the toxic gene jabs (likely depopulation), I'm also increasingly feeling it might just all be a bunch of stuff that's happening with no great grand plan. Look at 9/11, the various other terrorist attacks and the "war on terror", the resulting war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan and relentless fear and media coverage - what was the real point in it all? A bunch of oil money, flexing political/military muscles, some backhanders for mates. No real point to it all. The wars fizzled out. No one held to account. Blair, Bush, Rumsfeld never saw a court. Maybe all this covid shite could just fizzle out too. Some remnants of it will remain, maybe vax passports for overseas travel. Got to remain open to all possibilities, both good, bad and indifferent. Edited August 7, 2021 by Ed8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 This thread is heading towards another lockout. Knock off the ad hominem attacks. Please. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, ally_uk said: I'm unvaccinated Last few days I have been feeling like utter shit rundown, chesty coughing. Did a lateral flow test the other day and came back negative but am seriously feeling wiped out. Was at a kids birthday party the other day and this little kid kept running around coughing everywhere. He had a upper respiratory infection according to father. So I'm hoping what I have is that but serious I feel terrible Vitamin D3, Vitamin C, and Zinc in large doses. Plenty of fluids and rest. That's what I did and it lasted about 3 days. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covidiot Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ed8 said: Just try to enjoy life and ignore media. A lot of nutcases have sadly jumped on our bandwagon and as a result, arguments against lockdown and vax are sounding increasingly deranged, rather that the measured logic they used to be. In local telegram groups, a few of the most vocal of the anti-vaxxers are nutcases into Q crap, they post old and patently false info from discredited sources, they have the same psychological biases as the sheep and are hostile when you point facts out to them. There seems to be a dearth of factual analysis recently. I used to follow Bhakdi and other doctors regularly, but I'm slowly losing confidence in them and their doomsday predictions, the longer things go on and the majority are totally fine (although I acknowledge a lot of people have severe vax side effects). His most recent letter was just a rehash of things he'd previously said, with citations from doctors reporting rare severe side effects https://doctors4covidethics.org/leaky-blood-vessels-an-unknown-danger-of-covid-19-vaccination/ so what? I certainly won't be getting the vax and I continue to resist. However, where I previously felt there must be a bigger agenda behind getting everyone injected with the toxic gene jabs (likely depopulation), I'm also increasingly feeling it might just all be a bunch of stuff that's happening with no great grand plan. Look at 9/11, the various other terrorist attacks and the "war on terror", the resulting war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan and relentless fear and media coverage - what was the real point in it all? A bunch of oil money, flexing political/military muscles, some backhanders for mates. No real point to it all. The wars fizzled out. No one held to account. Blair, Bush, Rumsfeld never saw a court. Maybe all this covid shite could just fizzle out too. Some remnants of it will remain, maybe vax passports for overseas travel. Got to remain open to all possibilities, both good, bad and indifferent. Thanks for the reply. This is exactly what i have been starting to feel. It's crazy i was so convinced of the grand plot but like you say sometimes it feels like it is amounting to nothing. The doomsday predictions don't come. I suppose winter will be the big test. Maybe we give TPTB too much credit or not enough maybe this will be a slower process than we thought. Two steps forward one step back type of deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malbec Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: We are in a war. A spiritual war. Never in my lifetime have I seen such worldwide concentrated evil. I know without being completely negative, its going to get so much worse. You have to try and balance a healthy level of fear/ knowledge in order to be prepared (without being totally consumed by it all) whilst still enjoying what you can out of life day to day! My family think I'm completely mental saying that my children won't be able to go to school by then, and re stockpiling etc not to mention the suggestion of the Internet going down haha 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, SimonTV said: Ridiculous troll accusation, you can see my posts over several years. I would never attack a person on unfounded personal prejudice and the accusation is offensive. You see what happens when you start using the word - TROLL ? l asked you nicely - twice. Enjoy your 24 hours cool off time.. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) So I have a relative who's been admitted after having a stroke. She's been double jabbed not sure which one. I'm beyond angry. And nobody I am guessing in the family will put 2 and 2 together. I just wonder how many other people are having this happen and we aren't hearing about it because they couldn't conceive of this being the jab. Absolutely sick to the back teeth of trying at the start to warn people or even have a conversation and being told off or dismissed. It's absolutely incredible to witness and frustrating beyond words. And I can vouch for whoever said earlier in this thread that the arguements are becoming increasingly deranged for the vaccine damn right pathetic and insulting. They seem to think this is all some joke and we are all sat around watching X files. Absolute insanity. Got to keep my head now. Edited August 7, 2021 by Fluke 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covidiot Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Basket Case said: You see what happens when you start using the word - TROLL ? l asked you nicely - twice. Enjoy your 24 hours cool off time.. BC Apologies if i've caused any upset BC. Genuinely just at a low point didn't mean to cause a ruckus. Sorry again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Covidiot said: Apologies if i've caused any upset BC. Genuinely just at a low point didn't mean to cause a ruckus. Sorry again. I didn't see anything in the OP to warrant this reaction from anyone. If people cannot just have a moment where they reach out, or want to soundboard the mounting frustrations and confusions, WTF is the point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covidiot Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Fluke said: So I have a relative who's been admitted after having a stroke. She's been double jabbed not sure which one. I'm beyond angry. And nobody I am guessing in the family will put 2 and 2 together. I just wonder how many other people are having this happen and we aren't hearing about it because they couldn't conceive of this being the jab. Absolutely sick to the back teeth of trying at the start to warn people or even have a conversation and being told off or dismissed. It's absolutely incredible to witness and frustrating beyond words. Sorry to hear that Fluke. Personally the jabbed i know have been catching covid left right and centre just now after being ok for 18 months pre jab. It's amazing when they say how glad they are jabbed or how worse they would have been had they not been jabbed. Truly brainwashed. I gave up having conversations with all other than the OH it's pointless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Covidiot said: Apologies if i've caused any upset BC. Genuinely just at a low point didn't mean to cause a ruckus. Sorry again. Any members not liking your posts have 3 choices. 1) engage you in a respectful way 2) scroll past and ignore 3) report for Admins / Mods to look at.. Using the word TROLL always ends up with trouble. l asked nicely - twice - but SimonTV ignored me. He'll be back tomorrow. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Covidiot said: Sorry to hear that Fluke. Personally the jabbed i know have been catching covid left right and centre just now after being ok for 18 months pre jab. It's amazing when they say how glad they are jabbed or how worse they would have been had they not been jabbed. Truly brainwashed. I gave up having conversations with all other than the OH it's pointless. My old man actually boasts about all the jabs he's totting up over the last 1-2 years. Flu jabs, shingles jabs, both vaxx jabs....plus injections for anything else he can think of. It's insane. His health and demeanour have gone down the shitter in that time, yet he thinks the whole thing is fantastic and owes his life to it all. Gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Just now, Covidiot said: I gave up having conversations with all other than the OH it's pointless You are absolute right there's no point and I haven't had a go at anyone who's got it because I realised early on there's no point it's their life not my business. But I naively brought up the vaccine when talking to another relative saying that he might want to make the most of seeing his parents this year, because I don't expect to see them next year and I mentioned the jab. I didn't realise he had been double jabbed and the arrogance and insulting arguements he came back with basically biting back when I wasn't attacking spoke words for me. They are becoming increasingly deranged I think they know they f up somewhere. I hope I am wrong. Don't want to get ahead of myself. My relative is stable at the moment and has passed all the "tests" they do after a stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covidiot Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Just now, Anti Facts Sir said: My old man actually boasts about all the jabs he's totting up over the last 1-2 years. Flu jabs, shingles jabs, both vaxx jabs....plus injections for anything else he can think of. It's insane. His health and demeanour have gone down the shitter in that time, yet he thinks the whole thing is fantastic and owes his life to it all. Gone. It's astonishing really. I work with people whom i would describe as extremely intelligent and educated peeps who are the same! The mind truly boggles. Is it pure psychology? I wonder what sets us apart from them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looney tune Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, Ed8 said: Just try to enjoy life and ignore media. A lot of nutcases have sadly jumped on our bandwagon and as a result, arguments against lockdown and vax are sounding increasingly deranged, rather that the measured logic they used to be. In local telegram groups, a few of the most vocal anti-vaxxers are nutcases into Q crap, they post old and patently false info from discredited sources, they have the same psychological biases as the sheep and are hostile when you point facts out to them. There seems to be a dearth of factual analysis recently. I used to follow Bhakdi and other doctors regularly, but I'm slowly losing confidence in them and their doomsday predictions, the longer things go on and the majority are totally fine (although I acknowledge a lot of people have severe vax side effects). His most recent letter was just a rehash of things he'd previously said, with citations from doctors reporting rare severe side effects https://doctors4covidethics.org/leaky-blood-vessels-an-unknown-danger-of-covid-19-vaccination/ so what? I certainly won't be getting the vax and I continue to resist. However, where I previously felt there must be a bigger agenda behind getting everyone injected with the toxic gene jabs (likely depopulation), I'm also increasingly feeling it might just all be a bunch of stuff that's happening with no great grand plan. Look at 9/11, the various other terrorist attacks and the "war on terror", the resulting war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan and relentless fear and media coverage - what was the real point in it all? A bunch of oil money, flexing political/military muscles, some backhanders for mates. No real point to it all. The wars fizzled out. No one held to account. Blair, Bush, Rumsfeld never saw a court. Maybe all this covid shite could just fizzle out too. Some remnants of it will remain, maybe vax passports for overseas travel. Got to remain open to all possibilities, both good, bad and indifferent. Not sure if there was no real point to it as the amount of laws that came along with the war on terror now allows them to have access to everything and anything they deem fit, can put any individual on any type of list they want, put you infront of secret courts, hold you for long periods with no charge. Covid will go the same way with rafts of changes to the way you live, vax passports, digital social credit scores, more than likely forced isolation, removing children from anyone they seem against their way of running things. It will likely fizzle out but the changes will be long lasting I think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covidiot Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fluke said: You are absolute right there's no point and I haven't had a go at anyone who's got it because I realised early on there's no point it's their life not my business. But I naively brought up the vaccine when talking to another relative saying that he might want to make the most of seeing his parents this year, because I don't expect to see them next year and I mentioned the jab. I didn't realise he had been double jabbed and the arrogance and insulting arguements he came back with basically biting back when I wasn't attacking spoke words for me. They are becoming increasingly deranged I think they know they f up somewhere. I hope I am wrong. Don't want to get ahead of myself. My relative is stable at the moment and has passed all the "tests" they do after a stroke. Hope they pull through ok Fluke. Must be horrible. My brother who I love dearly took the jab after I implored him to do research and pointed him to yellow card data etc. I hope to god he will be ok long term but I can't hate him and will be there no matter what. At the end of the day they have fallen victim to the psy-op and we have not I don't hold my brother to blame for that. Those who have taken the jab I have noticed are increasingly aggressive with their attempts to justify it to themselves. They defend the narrative to the hilt as to admit they have been played is obv just too painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) I think there must be personality/character traits which mark some out as especially liable to either go along with this, or actually embrace it. I think of the anti-social little Hitlers who run some of the indie music shops I've been to over the years, and they are absolutely milking this to the hilt. Blokes who'd have a fit if you touch their stock or move something, or take too long deciding on a purchase, all that cliched crap...well now they're imposing the restrictions with real gusto. "Wear your mask". "Keep your distance". "Follow The Science". "Only X People in at a time". Even though the law now admits none of this is essential. Oh no, they're on their little power kick and they're not going to stop now. They are in their element. Contempt for other people, and being fussy knobheads, has suddenly become a fashionable niche. Edited August 8, 2021 by Anti Facts Sir 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Covidiot said: Hope they pull through ok Fluke. Must be horrible. My brother who I love dearly took the jab after I implored him to do research and pointed him to yellow card data etc. I hope to god he will be ok long term but I can't hate him and will be there no matter what. Cheers mate. Not trying to fear monger I prepared myself mentally it doesn't surprise me but at the same time reality hits and it's a bit surreal. Could be all very rare still and I'm sure your brother will be okay. And I don't know enough but I don't like what I'm reading either. Darian has put together some great stuff with the vaccine fact sheets I've read through lots of them. I just find it very coincidental that 3 family members I know have gone down in health a great deal. Let's just hope everyone we know that has fallen prey gets out okay. But be prepared. Going to hit the hay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed8 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Looney tune said: Not sure if there was no real point to it as the amount of laws that came along with the war on terror now allows them to have access to everything and anything they deem fit, can put any individual on any type of list they want, put you infront of secret courts, hold you for long periods with no charge. Covid will go the same way with rafts of changes to the way you live, vax passports, digital social credit scores, more than likely forced isolation, removing children from anyone they seem against their way of running things. It will likely fizzle out but the changes will be long lasting I think. Yes, good points. At the time, some people were saying there would be a world war, nuclear attacks, groups of Muslim militia on the streets of Europe etc but none of those doomsday type situations came to pass (unless you were a citizen of Iraq or Afghanistan). Agree there will be a number of long-lasting changes. Just unsure of whether a doomsday type situation will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covidiot Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fluke said: Cheers mate. Not trying to fear monger I prepared myself mentally it doesn't surprise me but at the same time reality hits and it's a bit surreal. Could be all very rare still and I'm sure your brother will be okay. And I don't know enough but I don't like what I'm reading either. Darian has put together some great stuff with the vaccine fact sheets I've read through lots of them. I just find it very coincidental that 3 family members I know have gone down in health a great deal. Let's just hope everyone we know that has fallen prey gets out okay. But be prepared. Going to hit the hay. I'm holding out a smidge of hope that the worst predictions on here will NOT come to pass. Hopefully our vaxxed loved ones will be ok. If not well it will be revenge then... eventually. Have a good sleep and cheers for engaging tonight. I feel better for having this convo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looney tune Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ed8 said: Yes, good points. At the time, some people were saying there would be a world war, nuclear attacks, groups of Muslim militia on the streets of Europe etc but none of those doomsday type situations came to pass (unless you were a citizen of Iraq or Afghanistan). Agree there will be a number of long-lasting changes. Just unsure of whether a doomsday type situation will happen. The fear mungering is just to push the changes they want to implement (possibly change some leaders who don't follow there wishes aswell). I don't see a doomsday scenario yet on this, just changes in how we obey. More people will probably be dependent on big pharma, a small percentage of casualties as a result of vax,but more likely teeing up for something else to come down the road. Has anyone herd of if it makes people sterile yet? Edited August 8, 2021 by Looney tune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
factJack Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I gave a lift to friends who were attending to some event today and were super anxious about the covid pass thing. they had actually both had been injected twice but were like totally rubbish with tech thing and didn't have a clue how to download. (I could of help them however I felt I was doing enough by giving them a lift there and back.) when I collected them later in the evening I asked them about their experience; no one at the event gave a shit, challenged them or asked to see it. an event of 3000 people which said on the flyer you need to have the proof of vax, so imagine checking 50k at the football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covidiot Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Looney tune said: The fear mungering is just to push the changes they want to implement (possibly change some leaders who don't follow there wishes aswell). I don't see a doomsday scenario yet on this, just changes in how we obey. More people will probably be dependent on big pharma, a small percentage of casualties as a result of vax,but more likely teeing up for something else to come down the road. Has anyone herd of if it makes people sterile yet? I'm hoping that the covid saga is aimed at getting rid of foreign travel and not much else. TBH I can live without jetting all over the world it never realy appealed to me anyway. Hell I could even be down with sterilisation of a significant proportion of the sheep. So long as genocide is off the cards and freedom can be maintained in the uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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