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Just now, dirtydog said:

 

What do you think of the fact that the same supposed proof that Covid DOESN'T exist, also supposedly proves things like the common cold doesn't exist? 

 

The obvious answer is that this whole thing does not mean what some people are SAYING it means at all. I mean, I assume we all agree the cold exists. 

 

Like I say, I don't know what 'Covid-19' is or isn't. But I think some people are jumping on something they don't understand, doing 2+2 and coming up with 5 here. 

 

The reason they say that covid doesn't exist is a technical one. If you look in to seriously, many people have explained it in detail. It has not been isolated and the way they say it exists is through a study and with the study they used a computer to generate most of the gene sequence. I am not a scientist, so better listen to a scientist explain it in more detail. 

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1 minute ago, SimonTV said:

 

Whether viruses exists or not is a different topic than whether covid exists or not. There has been people that have disputed the germ theory of medicine. Some argue that it is only nutrients and environmental factors that contribute to ill health, as well as parasite or infections, like food poisoning or a cut that becomes infected or a fungus. The idea that viruses are in our saliva and floating through the air and landing on surfaces where they can be exchange between people is disputed as well.

 

What we do know is that it is clear that people do experience what we call flu like symptoms and cold like symptoms. 

 

We also know we can catch them off other people. But anyway, I don't rule out that our (mankind's) understanding of viruses may be mistaken. Viruses as we think we know them, may not exist in that sense. But clearly, those conditions do exist, regardless of the correct term for them or whatever. 

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Just now, dirtydog said:

 

We also know we can catch them off other people. But anyway, I don't rule out that our (mankind's) understanding of viruses may be mistaken. Viruses as we think we know them, may not exist in that sense. But clearly, those conditions do exist, regardless of the correct term for them or whatever. 

 

Here is a video that covers the topic in more detail

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/KayV6LW0MBo5/

 

Personally I think bacterial infections of the throat and lungs can be transferred through coughing and similar. The question is whether this is a virus or not, i think that is technical argument. 

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13 minutes ago, dirtydog said:

 

No no no mate. Don't be coy. Tell us in plain English, do you think the common cold exists or not? 

 

You all seem to think that this thing is some sort of amazing 'gotcha' that disproves Covid exists. I don't know if it does or doesn't. But I'm pretty sure the cold and measles do as I've had both. Then again, I could be part of the conspiracy. This is asinine. 

 

Wake up at the back!

 

No one has said these viruses don't exist. Of course they bloody exist! What we're talking about here is the VIRUS, not the DISEASE, and whether they have been ISOLATED. None have. That's why all the Big Pharma 'cures' don't work. [Note: SARS_CoV_2 is the supposed VIRUS and Covid-19 is the DISEASE].

 

What have YOU ever taken in your life that has 'cured' your common cold?

 

The 'vaccines' were supposed to have been produced using genome sequencing. You can't sequence anything without first obtaining it in it's pure, isolated form. Therefore the 'vaccines' are a LIE and everything based on them is a LIE!

 

You really need to do some proper research before calling everyone out on this.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, dirtydog said:

 

What do you think of the fact that the same supposed proof that Covid DOESN'T exist, also supposedly proves things like the common cold doesn't exist?

 

You want my view on that? Well I have stated all along that that topic isn't my strongpoint. I haven't looked into the science much since the beginning as other folks here are better in that department. I'm just an art/visuals guy that notices patterns.

 

Even if the virus existed in the sense that they say it does, I would still be against what they're doing because I think they're tyrannical bastards.

 

If I had to make a guess though, I would say it doesn't exist or it's just a rebranded flu or something, certainly nothing worth taking peoples rights away for anyway.

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Just now, webtrekker said:

 

Wake up at the back!

 

No one has said these viruses don't exist. Of course they bloody exist! What we're talking about here is the VIRUS, not the DISEASE, and whether they have been ISOLATED. None have. That's why all the Big Pharma 'cures' don't work. [Note: SARS_CoV_2 is the supposed VIRUS and Covid-19 is the DISEASE].

 

What have YOU ever taken in your life that has 'cured' your common cold?

 

The 'vaccines' were supposed to have been produced using genome aequencing. You can't sequence anything without first obtaining it in it's pure, isolated form. Therefore the 'vaccines' are a LIE and everything based on them is a LIE!

 

They don't claim to cure them either though do they. Big pharma don't CLAIM to cure those things, they claim to prevent them, and as things like polio have been eradicated, are they wrong? I'm not a scientist or expert, maybe you are, but probably not.

 

The idea some nobody went to court in Alberta and used some technical argument and got the country to remove restrictions and prove Covid is a 'hoax' (his words?) is obviously nonsense. I mean, it could be a hoax for all I know. But the idea this geezer proved it and a judge agreed is ridiculous. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

You want my view on that? Well I have stated all along that that topic isn't my strongpoint. I haven't looked into the science much since the beginning as other folks here are better in that department. I'm just an art/visuals guy that notices patterns.

 

Even if the virus existed in the sense that they say it does, I would still be against what they're doing because I think they're tyrannical bastards.

 

If I had to make a guess though, I would say it doesn't exist or it's just a rebranded flu or something, certainly nothing worth taking peoples rights away for anyway.

 

This is a rational viewpoint which I think is shared by millions. My guess, if it was some sort of hoax or exaggerated threat, they probably wouldn't tell the politicians anyway, who don't exactly seem to be the sharpest tools in shed (Boris Johnson for example). It's above their pay grade. I can believe the politicians panicked and believed the dire predictions of catastrophe and overreacted, and then painted themselves (and us) into a corner. And yes, the whole thing is definitely being used to push all kinds of privacy-eroding / ending stuff through on the back of it, whether planned or opportunistically. 

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1 minute ago, dirtydog said:

 

They don't claim to cure them either though do they. Big pharma don't CLAIM to cure those things, they claim to prevent them, and as things like polio have been eradicated, are they wrong? I'm not a scientist or expert, maybe you are, but probably not.

 

The idea some nobody went to court in Alberta and used some technical argument and got the country to remove restrictions and prove Covid is a 'hoax' (his words?) is obviously nonsense. I mean, it could be a hoax for all I know. But the idea this geezer proved it and a judge agreed is ridiculous. 

 

 

 

This is getting stupid now and I'm wasting no more time on you. I'm putting you on IGNORE. Enjoy your research, you've MUCH to learn.

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Just now, webtrekker said:

 

This is getting stupid now and I'm wasting no more time on you. I'm putting you on IGNORE. Enjoy your research, you've MUCH to learn.

 

Ok mate. I'm new to this forum, not to the internet or life in general. But maybe one day I will be as enlightened as you *yawn*

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Just now, whatthefoxhat said:

How important is it exactly whether or not the virus exists to you ?

 

I'd say its totally immaterial at the moment as the vaccines that aint are still killing people ,you still cant fly anywhere as you would have prior to march 20,you are still subject to a set of ludicrous conditions that affect your day to day life so what exactly is your point in arguing whether or not the virus exists ? 18 months of edict after edict and you want to come here and argue about the existence of the virus ?

 

Do me a favour mate fuck off back to your handlers and tell them you need a new script,the one you are using is a carbon copy thats wearing thin now

I'll leave this here again for people to recognise whats happening here

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-57051691

 

Jesus people here are so quick to go on the attack when someone thinks and asks questions, it's pathetic. 'your handlers' you are a moron pal. But here, you are in good company. 

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Whether because he's thick or because he's compromised or whatever it is, they usually seem to pick politicians who can be relied upon to do what they're told, whether wittingly or unwittingly. 

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‘The science swayed her’: how do you convince someone to get vaccinated?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/01/the-science-swayed-her-how-do-you-convince-someone-to-get-vaccinated

 

AstraZeneca’s Australia boss ‘surprised and disappointed’ with debate over Covid vaccine

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/02/astrazenecas-australia-boss-surprised-and-disappointed-with-debate-over-covid-vaccine

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4 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Not sure if that's a good example. The guy seems pretty bright, but he is just a menace.

 

 

 

"My name is Boris. I can read and memorize ancient Greek, but the ability to read and share the product warnings on vaccine information sheets is beyond my capacity."

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1 minute ago, DarianF said:

 

"My name is Boris. I can read and memorize ancient Greek, but the ability to read and share the product warnings on vaccine information sheets is beyond my capacity."

 

Not beyond his capacity, he just hates us.

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15 minutes ago, dirtydog said:

 

They don't claim to cure them either though do they. Big pharma don't CLAIM to cure those things, they claim to prevent them, and as things like polio have been eradicated, are they wrong? I'm not a scientist or expert, maybe you are, but probably not.

 

The idea some nobody went to court in Alberta and used some technical argument and got the country to remove restrictions and prove Covid is a 'hoax' (his words?) is obviously nonsense. I mean, it could be a hoax for all I know. But the idea this geezer proved it and a judge agreed is ridiculous. 

 

 

 

Polio and other viruses they "cured" with vaccines were already in decline due to improvements in refrigeration and sanitation before the vaccines became mandatory. They basically took the credit for it. 

 

 

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In fact there is a lot of evidence that they cause far more harm than they do good. 

 

Here is two studies that suggest the flu vaccine increases the rate of flu. 

 

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0163508
https://peerj.com/articles/10112/

 

Here are two articles that claim vaccines increase health problems in children

 

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/lessons-from-the-lockdown-why-are-so-many-fewer-children-dying/

https://archive.is/DHYt3 (now retracted probably due to death threats from big pharma)

 

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This "Covid" scam isn't anything to do with a virus. The "vaccines" aren't actual vaccines either.

 

So all of this discussion just ends up thread sliding, when the real question is what exactly TPTB are up to, what their latest moves are, what the next stage of this global con might be, and how we best prepare ourselves and arm ourselves (figuratively speaking) with knowledge and information about those aspects.

 

Not debating whether COVID is SARS-2 or the flu or any of other shit we've wasted too much time and energy on since Feb 2020.

 

It's clear this is a FRAUD. That is surely the focus.

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2 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Serves him right. Lackeys. 

 

Problem is the state treats Police like holy priests of violence.


They can do what the fuck they like to you but touch one of them and you're going inside.

 

Well, only if you're white that is.

 

 

 

 

 

Double standards of law. If they unlawfully assault you it is less serious than if you unlawfully assault them.

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The rest of this article is in a thread 'get graphene oxide out of the body' in the covid nwo section

 

People keep asking me what can help the now poisoned ones? Increase glutathione! It is a master antioxidant that grabs wastes from the body. How? Coffee enemas, DMSO, MSM, glutathione supplements, and NAC.

On the Connection Between Graphene Oxide Found in "Covid Vaccines", Electromagnetic Fields, Blood Clots & Severe "Covid" Symptoms | How to Remove Graphene Oxide From the Body – NAC (N-acetylcysteine)

Graphene inside the body acquires magnetic properties and is a superconductor. It serves for energy storage and condensation and was a strong candidate. Without yet having any knowledge of what was inside the vial, we realized that the industry or rather the stock market of the graphene industry had high uptrend peaks just as the COVID-19 vaccination campaign was starting at the beginning of the year, late December and early January. But also, quite curious, during the flu vaccination campaign. 

When we have seen the possibilities that graphene has, or rather, that graphene oxide nanoparticles have inside the body when it comes to neuromodulation and when it comes to picking up neuronal electrophysiological effects for brain mapping, we have realized the possibility that graphene is being injected. Can graphene be injected? Yes. Graphene can be injected. And, in fact, some scientific papers have already raised the possibility that it could be used as a nanoadjuvant in vaccines. With that hypothesis of suspicion, we did what anyone could have done and what I also recommend that you can do if you have access to a vial. 

We had access to a sealed vial from Pfizer, and by means of a request for services to a university, specifically in my name, it was sent for an analysis of the vial, where we were looking for the material in question: graphene. After some time of investigation by Dr. Pablo Campra Madrid, Doctor in Chemical Sciences, Bachelor in Biological Sciences and member of the University of Almeria, we obtained this preliminary report where we are told that there is indeed solid evidence of graphene oxide in the sample and that it is also the main component of what they wrongly called a vaccine. 

From here and with this solid evidence, which will be further complemented with other spectroscopy techniques that can be done. Those that have been used are transmission electron microscopy; EMF techniques, also, optical microscopy; and ultraviolet radiation spectroscopy, which coincide with the peak wavelength of graphene oxide. From here we began to study the toxicity or cytotoxicity that graphene oxide has on the body. 

Pay attention to this finding: Graphene oxide inside the body causes thrombogenicity, thrombi. Graphene oxide inside the body causes blood clotting. Graphene oxide inside the body causes post inflammatory syndrome or systemic or multi-organ inflammations. Graphene oxide inside the body when it is above the levels of glutathione —which is the body’s natural reserve of antioxidants—, causes alteration of the immune system, collapse of the immune system and cytokine storm. Inhaled graphene oxide spreads evenly throughout the alveolar tract and causes bilateral pneumonias. Inhaled graphene oxide causes inflammation of the mucous membranes and thus loss of taste and smell, possible loss of taste and smell: anosmia. 

In short, graphene oxide behaves exactly like the supposed SARS-CoV-2 of the official version, generating the same symptomatology of severe COVID-19. When installed at the neuronal level, it causes neurodegeneration or, in other words, neurological COVID-19. 

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2 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

This "Covid" scam isn't anything to do with a virus. The "vaccines" aren't actual vaccines either.

 

So all of this discussion just ends up thread sliding, when the real question is what exactly TPTB are up to, what their latest moves are, what the next stage of this global con might be, and how we best prepare ourselves and arm ourselves (figuratively speaking) with knowledge and information about those aspects.

 

Not debating whether COVID is SARS-2 or the flu or any of other shit we've wasted too much time and energy on since Feb 2020.

 

It's clear this is a FRAUD. That is surely the focus.

 

He just a new people always come in with the same questions and sometimes they just need the same answers that we all already aware of. Not sure how to avoid that.

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32 minutes ago, dirtydog said:

 

This is a rational viewpoint which I think is shared by millions. My guess, if it was some sort of hoax or exaggerated threat, they probably wouldn't tell the politicians anyway, who don't exactly seem to be the sharpest tools in shed (Boris Johnson for example). It's above their pay grade. I can believe the politicians panicked and believed the dire predictions of catastrophe and overreacted, and then painted themselves (and us) into a corner. And yes, the whole thing is definitely being used to push all kinds of privacy-eroding / ending stuff through on the back of it, whether planned or opportunistically. 

 

Hes trying to say the majority are rational in this country? trolololol.


What a total clueless fucktard.🍿

 

 

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