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I just want you to be honest with yourselves. Your protests don't accomplish the very things you chant for, your awareness does nothing to change their progress and your unity will fall apart the moment actual force is used against you.

 

That's why they don't take you seriously. That's why the media ignores you unless there's fights. You're doing more damage than good. Maybe one day you'll all realise, those who can't adapt will suffer.

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59 minutes ago, Not Pennys Boat said:


This story is the main headline in the Mail today. I find it amazing how these people continue to find the time to pose for selfies whilst on a ventilator and fighting for their lives.

 

This is actually my first post. Been on and off these forums for years now, used to be a big fan of the stepford wives thread. Anyway, I feel now is the time to talk to like minded people as I have been really struggling lately. The situation is getting to the point where there have been disagreements within my family and it’s hard to stay positive. Had the same issue with same friends as well as I’m sure a lot of you have encountered as well. Anyway, good to be here!

 

 

Well pretty sure you're not alone there.....

My Mother has in no uncertain terms said that she won't spend time with me or my family (we live abroad) until we get the jab, totally ignoring the fact that she goes round my brother's house 3 times a week and sits with his two kids who are both unjabbed. 

When this glaring inconsistency was pointed out the response was 'well that's different, they're going to get it when they get old enough'.  Hmmm, what to say to that? 😀

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I had to look up 'fedposting', yeah I just want honest posting...

 

But hey let's leave it there and say you do your protests and in lets say a year we'll circle back and see what you 've accomplished compared to what they've accomplished...

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1 hour ago, dirtydog said:

 

Okay I'll be that guy... I watched it for a while (not every minute) and was waiting for some amazing facts which never came. It was just two people talking, without any other proof or links? Did I miss them? 

 

Just because someone won in court because the government failed to present appropriate evidence is not the same as saying it's proof of a hoax. This is the sort of thing which makes Covid sceptics look easily fooled and debunked. 

Well... Its quite significant when the government failed to present appropriate evidence but have changed life of the whole world! Don't you think?! 🤬

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4 minutes ago, Prometheus said:

I just want you to be honest with yourselves. Your protests don't accomplish the very things you chant for, your awareness does nothing to change their progress and your unity will fall apart the moment actual force is used against you.

 

That's why they don't take you seriously. That's why the media ignores you unless there's fights. You're doing more damage than good. Maybe one day you'll all realise, those who can't adapt must die.

But protest they did,and their unity fell apart as they protested but they tried as they died

 

You? sat there in your ivory tower as they ripped off the door,dragged you out by your throat and forcibly injected you as you screamed that you knew better and as the jab coursed through your veins tearing your internal organs to shreds you were glad of a good death nobly fighting the cause from the comfort of your armchair

 

It'll get us all in the end jab or no jab,some of us will be able to die content knowing we tried,some will die bitter and twisted

 

The question is which will be more painful ?

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That's Democracy. Its mob rule. Facts are based on beliefs and not truth. Rule the mob, bread and circuses.

 

At times I wonder if those where really Christs last words. Maybe there was a mistranslation and he actually said 'Fuck them all Father, they know what they done'.

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Very scary Fox. I'm also exempt from Vaccinations on genuine religious grounds... So who's the dummy now.

 

Its nice to see some honestly though, your fears and expectations. So that's it, its about pride, its about saying I protested even though at heart you believe they'll end up forcing you anyway.

 

That's why your protests are so loud and full of self congratulatory echoing rhetoric. Its so you can identify yourself as the good and brave rebels whilst you know your truly powerless to effect change. Your chants never realised though ever hoping that if for your masses and protests then someone may come and save you.

 

The saviour complex is a victim complex in waiting.

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9 minutes ago, Human10 said:

Well... Its quite significant when the government failed to present appropriate evidence but have changed life of the whole world! Don't you think?! 🤬

Not the first time. This is far more egregious than Blair's dodgy dossier on Iraqi WMD.

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22 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

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You were saying? So that evidence you don't feel you need to provide to support your statement, well what do you say now? 

 

I already answered this point preemptively which you either missed or ignored, I don't know which. I expected someone would mistake correlation for causation because of confirmation bias, as you are doing, and point to the already long announced lifting of restrictions and link it to some obscure court case for which you can provide no direct evidence of happening, or the outcome, or the reasons for the outcome. 

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2 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

Not the first time. This is far more egregious than Blair's dodgy dossier on Iraqi WMD.

 

 

It gets better! From Dr. Deena Hinshaw's twitter ...

 

 

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Linkto her account:

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Human10 said:

Well... Its quite significant when the government failed to present appropriate evidence but have changed life of the whole world! Don't you think?! 🤬

 

I do try to think pal. Just provide me with evidence of what that video says happened, other than the two random people in a bitchute video saying it. That's the first step to convincing people outside this echo chamber. 

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28 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

 

DEBUNKED, eh? ...

 

Alberta Medical Association head concerned over government lifting COVID restrictions

'The pace at which public health measures are ending is troubling,' says Paul Boucher in letter

The Canadian Press · Posted: Jul 31, 2021 2:40 PM MT | Last Updated: July 31

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Paul Boucher wrote an open letter to members of the Alberta Medical Association expressing his concerns with the provincial government's plan. (funnyangel/Shutterstock)


 

The head of the Alberta Medical Association says he has significant concerns with the province's decision to suspend almost all of its COVID-19 public health protocols.

In an open letter to members, Paul Boucher says the pace at which the United Conservative government is ending restrictions is troubling.

He says the government should release the data on which the decision was made.

Boucher adds the government's planned reliance on hospitalization data and monitoring wastewater for viruses isn't likely to provide enough information on the spread of COVID-19, especially as new variants take over.

The letter says easing back restrictions more slowly would be safer, easier on the health care system and cause less public worry.

Boucher says Alberta will eventually have to move away from pandemic measures, but concludes the government is doing so too quickly.

"The pace at which public health measures are ending is troubling," he writes.

"I do not disagree that moving from pandemic state to endemic state is the future but would strongly advocate for a less precipitous approach."

Boucher says he has shared his concerns with the province.

Concerns raised by others

This week, Alberta announced that close contacts of people who test positive for COVID-19 are no longer legally required to isolate, nor are they notified by contact tracers.

As of Aug. 16, infected individuals won't need to isolate. Testing will also be curtailed.

The moves come as the province's active case numbers and infection rate increases.

The lifting of Alberta's restrictions has been viewed with concern by other top doctors.

Canada's Chief Medical Officer of Health Theresa Tam has warned against opening too quickly. The Canadian Pediatric Society has written to her Alberta counterpart Dr. Deena Hinshaw urging her to reconsider

 

 

See the answer I gave to Morpheus above. Try to read what I actually say and then it will make more sense to you. 

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It's a big conspiracy by world governments, but they somehow let one obscure judge in a court somewhere decide an entire country's restrictions must be lifted, and this is true because it's in a bitchute video. 

 

This is what confirmation bias looks like. 

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22 minutes ago, Dazzer said:

Well pretty sure you're not alone there.....

My Mother has in no uncertain terms said that she won't spend time with me or my family (we live abroad) until we get the jab, totally ignoring the fact that she goes round my brother's house 3 times a week and sits with his two kids who are both unjabbed. 

When this glaring inconsistency was pointed out the response was 'well that's different, they're going to get it when they get old enough'.  Hmmm, what to say to that? 😀

I hear you. My mum has been sick for a couple of years now and her condition is worsening. I can already see in the not so distant future that my dad won’t allow me to see her unless I’m vaccinated. Then my mind wonders and thinks about whether I’ll even be allowed to even go to my own mums funeral if I haven’t had a jab. 
 

Wish I could stay a bit more positive but it’s impossible to get through to them. My brother has little girls and I know he will have no issue with them having the vaccine.
 

 

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4 minutes ago, Not Pennys Boat said:
minutes ago, Dazzer said:

Well pretty sure you're not alone there.....

My Mother has in no uncertain terms said that she won't spend time with me or my family (we live abroad) until we get the jab, totally ignoring the fact that she goes round my brother's house 3 times a week and sits with his two kids who are both unjabbed. 

When this glaring inconsistency was pointed out the response was 'well that's different, they're going to get it when they get old enough'.  Hmmm, what to say to that? 😀

 

Plato said 'We've more in common with the stranger that shares our beliefs than the family member who doesn't'.

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19 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said:

But protest they did,and their unity fell apart as they protested but they tried as they died

 

You? sat there in your ivory tower as they ripped off the door,dragged you out by your throat and forcibly injected you as you screamed that you knew better and as the jab coursed through your veins tearing your internal organs to shreds you were glad of a good death nobly fighting the cause from the comfort of your armchair

 

It'll get us all in the end jab or no jab,some of us will be able to die content knowing we tried,some will die bitter and twisted

 

The question is which will be more painful ?

 

There is actually a way to use the protests against them. But nobody looked at that. We were all led to one way of thinking and shouting and resisting from day one by alternative media platforms supported on their networks and we fell for that...and that is just giving them more ammunition. Why do you think they make the farce look so farcical? Because it is a farce and we are fighting it the wrong way..Learn from the adversary. The protest need to work in another way...with the same collective fury that is now being directed one against the other..

 

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8 minutes ago, dirtydog said:

 

I do try to think pal. Just provide me with evidence of what that video says happened, other than the two random people in a bitchute video saying it. That's the first step to convincing people outside this echo chamber. 

Oh man... Write to him - maybe he can post you documents from the trial ;)

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6 minutes ago, Not Pennys Boat said:

I hear you. My mum has been sick for a couple of years now and her condition is worsening. I can already see in the not so distant future that my dad won’t allow me to see her unless I’m vaccinated. Then my mind wonders and thinks about whether I’ll even be allowed to even go to my own mums funeral if I haven’t had a jab. 
 

Wish I could stay a bit more positive but it’s impossible to get through to them. My brother has little girls and I know he will have no issue with them having the vaccine.
 

 

It's defiantly a family/relationship splitter, that's for sure.

 

Easier said than done but I try not to worry too much about things that I can't do anything about, it is what it is. 

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