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5 hours ago, DarianF said:

 

Why are all these cunts so ugly? If I were running a vaccine propaganda campaign, I would at least have the foresight to employ supermodel level women to promote the poison.

Good advertiser for poison :))) 

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8 hours ago, blowonthepie said:

Get over yourself mr perfect.

 

no

 

its not for me to shut up and become more dumb

 

its for you to realise that the smart tech is as much a part of the conspiracy as the covid jabs or the lockdowns

 

now we know what games you have been upto here. You are on peoples radar

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9 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

We're all guilty of feeding into the beast in certain ways, but not wanting this stuff doesn't mean we have to live in a bush either. People survived without this stuff years ago, and they didn't all live in the woods.

 

exactly...they are making a dodgy strawman argument

 

an argument could be made that phone sized computers that can connect you to a giant communications network are a good thing and i wouldn't argue against that

 

what i would do though is add some caveats. I'd say 'ok but how do we solve the problem of connecting to the communications network (internet) safely as wifi is harmful?'

 

I'd also say that AT THIS TIME the tech that is being offered to us by the system to achieve that (smart phones) are not created to be our friend (although they seduce people with various goodies) they are in fact designed BY THE CONSPIRATORS to be part of a wider smart grid agenda

 

So all i'm trying to get people to do is be more street wise but the problem, as another poster has already said: people are ADDICTED to their smart phones, smart tv's and other smart tech

 

This is true and is an issue all of its own. Nobody now (even amongst the truther crowd) wants to hear about the dangers of smart phones just like before covid no one wanted to hear about the dangers of vaccines

 

Just because people are delusional addicts doesn't mean they are right though

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55 minutes ago, alexa said:

I had a dream the other night that I was driving around a roundabout of giant poppies, so whether November 11th holds some significance, I don't know.

We all same day had a dream abut water. We were on the open sea... My daughter dreamed about swimming pool. 🙄

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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

no you are not seeing the full picture

 

the reason they are currently firing tens of thousands of satellites into low orbit is that they are going to use those to create the 5G 'cloud' so that you will be in that even if you are in a wood

 

they couldn't have created this if there was no market for a SMART-grid

 

you created that market by owning smart devices like a smart phone

 

you just don't want to admit that your individual choices play a role in shaping the world. THAT refusal to take personal responsibility is the REAL block to progress and the true awakening comes from overcoming that and taking personal responsibility for your world through your individual choices

 

when enough people do that the world changes for the better.....nothing else will work

Out of reactions, but absolutely this.

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8 hours ago, Fluke said:

A lot of dicipline is needed.

 

that's the key!

 

But people want that like they want a shit sandwich

 

the trick is to learn that comfort doesn't lead to happiness. The human animal needs meaning and purpose and the elite vision of a future where we are all cosseted children living off UBI while we are micro-managed by AI is not a world where we will 'own nothing and be happy 'it is a gilded cage where we will all spiral into malaise

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11 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

no you are not seeing the full picture

 

the reason they are currently firing tens of thousands of satellites into low orbit is that they are going to use those to create the 5G 'cloud' so that you will be in that even if you are in a wood

 

they couldn't have created this if there was no market for a SMART-grid

 

you created that market by owning smart devices like a smart phone

 

you just don't want to admit that your individual choices play a role in shaping the world. THAT refusal to take personal responsibility is the REAL block to progress and the true awakening comes from overcoming that and taking personal responsibility for your world through your individual choices

 

when enough people do that the world changes for the better.....nothing else will work

 

that's why i'm not currently an apocaloptimist: because i don't see enough people doing that. Instead i see people calling out for a saviour (who will never come as no one is capable of that)

 

Instead i am an apocarealist and i encourage you to become one too

 

 

I too am out of reactions but this is bang on the money. Thank you.

 

I believe our first actions should be to ditch the dodgy tech and hound the MSM propagandists.

 

'Never in the field of human CONtricks was so much owed by so many to so few.'

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

I believe our first actions should be to ditch the dodgy tech

 

i do believe we need to break some old habits which is hard

 

i actually believe the world does need a reset of some sort

 

the elites intend to IMPOSE their reset upon us. All i'm trying to to do is encourage people to envision our own reset on our terms instead of just allowing the elites to lead us by the nose into their new worldand to do that we need to be having these kind of conversations about tech and types of tech and applications of tech and the effects of tech on us and so on

 

6 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

and hound the MSM propagandists.

 

i'm not sure what you mean by that

 

i think we need to challenge their claims and ideas in a free market of ideas

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19 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

no you are not seeing the full picture

 

the reason they are currently firing tens of thousands of satellites into low orbit is that they are going to use those to create the 5G 'cloud' so that you will be in that even if you are in a wood

 

they couldn't have created this if there was no market for a SMART-grid

 

you created that market by owning smart devices like a smart phone

 

you just don't want to admit that your individual choices play a role in shaping the world. THAT refusal to take personal responsibility is the REAL block to progress and the true awakening comes from overcoming that and taking personal responsibility for your world through your individual choices

 

when enough people do that the world changes for the better.....nothing else will work

 

that's why i'm not currently an apocaloptimist: because i don't see enough people doing that. Instead i see people calling out for a saviour (who will never come as no one is capable of that)

 

Instead i am an apocarealist and i encourage you to become one too

100% agree with you.

 

Just look at the reaction over Piers Corbyn - all these people upset because they invested in yet another fake 'saviour' desperately wanting to be saved because they are too weak, lazy and stupid to get off their arses and save themselves. Its absolutely pitiful to see, especially by those who claim to be in the so called 'truth' movement and who claim to be 'awake' - what a complete joke. They cant even cope with people who have a different opinion to them; if you disagree then immediately you are a troll, shill, 77th blah blah blah. Total snowflakes.

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11 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

that's the key!

 

But people want that like they want a shit sandwich

 

the trick is to learn that comfort doesn't lead to happiness. The human animal needs meaning and purpose and the elite vision of a future where we are all cosseted children living off UBI while we are micro-managed by AI is not a world where we will 'own nothing and be happy 'it is a gilded cage where we will all spiral into malaise

We need more people like you. This constant need so many have, the expectation and craving to be constantly happy; its simply ridiculous and shows a complete lack of understanding of the human psyche.

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Just now, Bee said:

100% agree with you.

 

Just look at the reaction over Piers Corbyn - all these people upset because they invested in yet another fake 'saviour' desperately wanting to be saved because they are too weak, lazy and stupid to get off their arses and save themselves. Its absolutely pitiful to see, especially by those who claim to be in the so called 'truth' movement and who claim to be 'awake' - what a complete joke. They cant even cope with people who have a different opinion to them; if you disagree then immediately you are a troll, shill, 77th blah blah blah. Total snowflakes.

 

yes i agree

 

they are invested in the protest movement but lets be real about this. We have seen protests for decades over all kinds of things and how often did that overturn what the elites wanted? (sometimes the protests are actually orchestrated by the elites)

 

There is a danger with these regular protests that they become a kind of release valve where people go and let out their negative feelings and leave to go home feeling better about themselves after changing nothing tangible about the world

 

How much power do we have to change things in the world? Not a lot but we can change the things IN our lives and if enough people do that they the wider things in the world change too

 

So all that unity being built by the protest movement needs to be translated into consumer power. There needs to be an understanding that the choices we make as individuals are what shapes the society we live in

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6 minutes ago, Bee said:

We need more people like you. This constant need so many have, the expectation and craving to be constantly happy; its simply ridiculous and shows a complete lack of understanding of the human psyche.

 

i think a lot of people are taking what they perceive to be the path of least resistance but we can all now see where that leads us.....

 

I think people need to start asking themself not 'what do i WANT to hear?' but rather 'what is TRUE?'

 

The problem is that what is true is often not what people want to hear so they ignore it and take what they percieve to be the path of least resistance by going with what they want to hear and then as always it turns out to be a false economy

 

Its like the three little pigs: do you do a slap-dash job that is easier and build a straw house or do you put in some extra effort and build a brick one? Everything is fine with the strawhouse until the wolf comes calling....

 

smart devices are the comforting strawhouse....but now the wolf is coming calling

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12 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

yes i agree

 

they are invested in the protest movement but lets be real about this. We have seen protests for decades over all kinds of things and how often did that overturn what the elites wanted? (sometimes the protests are actually orchestrated by the elites)

 

There is a danger with these regular protests that they become a kind of release valve where people go and let out their negative feelings and leave to go home feeling better about themselves after changing nothing tangible about the world

 

How much power do we have to change things in the world? Not a lot but we can change the things IN our lives and if enough people do that they the wider things in the world change too

 

So all that unity being built by the protest movement needs to be translated into consumer power. There needs to be an understanding that the choices we make as individuals are what shapes the society we live in

I'm sure protests achieve something in the way that those participating get a (temporary) warm fuzzy feeling they are not alone but in reality the protests achieve nothing. Much like the endless petitions people have started during the last 18 months, begging to have their freedom back, to be 'allowed' to take their masks off!!!! None of them have achieved a damn thing. The time for infantile dependence on these things is long past but so many people cling to them in reality because they are easy. To disobey the system, to stand out and hold out is hard and challenging; its so much easier to attend a days event, sign a petition and comfort (delude) yourself you have done something meaningful.

 

Of course people participating in protests, signing petitions etc don't want to admit this, even to themselves. They comfort themselves that they have done something and achieved something when in fact its just another sop. Its not easy to face up to, I totally understand that, but refusing to see and acknowledge the truth just drives all of us further in to the mire. Its weak and cowardly no matter how people try and dress it up otherwise.

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Geez, what happened here. I leave to go sleep and y'all fallen into some militant disrepute.

 

Everyone know I think protests are street parties. I also know direct action, violence or even calling for it would be your ass (they're monitoring, obviously) and I also believe the world will change, his kingdom will reign upon Earth and there's nothing you can do about it.

 

So just like the Gnostic sects of old before Christianity became 'mainstream', they carved out for themselves a simple monestary and lived aesthetic lives until the age had come to an end.

 

I don't intend to become one of them, but I sure as hell can manoeuvre in their world, without suspicion, without a need to change everything because one can adapt, doesn't mean accept just bend a little that you can find peace and avoid their traps.

 

So what if they've a file on me, so what if they track me. I'm no danger, I'll appear to be like everyone else, I do my own thing and hide well that which is never to be discovered.

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I have seen some things about dandelion leaf extract. Basically saying it blocks the spike proteins from doing any damage, works in the same way as ivermectin.

 

I just bought a bag of 365 tablets off eBay for a shade over a tenner. My understanding is this will help stop us getting sick, and could help people who have been jabbed protect themselves from vaccine damage, as their bodies are producing spike proteins.

 

One link below. Plenty more online..

 

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.19.435959v1.full

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6 minutes ago, Prometheus said:

Everyone know I think protests are street parties. I also know direct action, violence or even calling for it would be your ass

i dont know about this, I have stated on *many different platforms what i would do if someone tried to test mask or vaxxx me with nothing done yet. mind you i also use to use the dark web for buying drugs so im probably already flagged for that.

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3 minutes ago, Bee said:

I'm sure protests achieve something in the way that those participating get a (temporary) warm fuzzy feeling they are not alone but in reality the protests achieve nothing. Much like the endless petitions people have started during the last 18 months, begging to have their freedom back, to be 'allowed' to take their masks off!!!! None of them have achieved a damn thing. The time for infantile dependence on these things is long past but so many people cling to them in reality because they are easy. To disobey the system, to stand out and hold out is hard and challenging; its so much easier to attend a days event, sign a petition and comfort (delude) yourself you have done something meaningful.

 

Of course people participating in protests, signing petitions etc don't want to admit this, even to themselves. They comfort themselves that they have done something and achieved something when in fact its just another sop. Its not easy to face up to, I totally understand that, but refusing to see and acknowledge the truth just drives all of us further in to the mire. Its weak and cowardly no matter how people try and dress it up otherwise.

 

i think that is the hard truth

 

the elites don't mind people gathering and waving placards. They even allocate licences and places to do it in

 

They will let people put up giant Tv screens in trafalgar square and make speeches on a stage. Its a good release valve for people

 

The elites are fine with it because it doesn't challenge anything they are doing directly

 

Now if everyone got rid of their smart devices.....the elites would not like that at all

 

We need to really start being honest with ourselves about what the elites DON'T want us to do and then we need to do those things

 

We also need to ask ourselves what the elites DO want us to do (own smart devices and get jabbed) and then not do those things

 

This maybe hard and a pain in the bum so people simply need to ask themselves 'do you really want to win this thing?' 'Are you willing to do what is needed to win this thing?'

 

At the moment i would say that clearly most people, even in the truth movement, are NOT willing to do what needs to be done

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6 minutes ago, Prometheus said:

I don't intend to become one of them, but I sure as hell can manoeuvre in their world, without suspicion, without a need to change everything because one can adapt, doesn't mean accept just bend a little that you can find peace and avoid their traps.

 

So what if they've a file on me, so what if they track me. I'm no danger, I'll appear to be like everyone else, I do my own thing and hide well that which is never to be discovered.

 

you are engaging in what one economist called 'wishful non-thinking'

 

you are telling yourself what you WANT to hear. You have created a fairytale in your mind where the cabal will just leave you alone if you keep your head down

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That's the thing, no one forced you to wear a mask, I've never worn one, I simply printed an exemption. I'm not getting vaxxed, it's your choice, but you must stand up fur your choices. No one said they'll be easy choices that no one would try and change your mind or pressure you. What freedom has to be free?

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