blowonthepie Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Beaujangles said: Many get my attention...do not feel special. I dont know you to hate you...and hate helps no-one. I only know you think you know it all... and that my friend can be nauseating. Most of us know about digital currency and Smart phones... that is not a revelation. And again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Liberty said: I’ve got Bill trying to take my steak and you trying to take my phone. I’m keeping both! Lol this post and your previous. People who try to tell others what to do, what they should have etc etc and abuse them for not doing it; there’s a word for that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, Liberty said: If you’re looking for your stick I think I know where it is. Dont need one... and you can keep yours. Ciao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 I get what most of you are saying and agree with much of it, but the elephant in the room is not smart phones, not IoT, not 5G, not digital currency, not any of these. It's the fact that the majority of the population have ALREADY BEEN GIVEN A DEATH SENTENCE by taking the lethal injections. No matter what these folk do - smash phones, smash routers, smash jabattoirs, smash the government, smash the unvaxxed ... No matter what they do, NOTHING will be able to reverse this death sentence. No protests in the world will bring these people back once they are gone. It's CHECKMATE, and has been for the last few months. We're already past the tipping point and the fuckers have destroyed civilisation. There's nothing left to BUILD BACK BETTER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, blowonthepie said: Lol this post and your previous. People who try to tell others what to do, what they should have etc etc and abuse them for not doing it; there’s a word for that ... Two sides of the same coin. Both leading to a communist destination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Let's be real, you can go 'innawoods' as the memers say, but all it is doing is buying time. You'll be hunted down wherever you are eventually, and the elites will probably want the green spaces while they herd the commoners into megacity favelas. How long that will take I'm not sure, but it seems to be the direction we're heading towards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, Liberty said: Two sides of the same coin. Both leading to a communist destination. Just put this in another section, but all grist to resisting a communist takeover. Im not against communal living and sharing, co-operative communities, its a great idea. But this is about a trick to rob from the people to give to the super elite rich, who are hijacking great ideas for their own ends. The so called liberals have become the enemy, by their very natures they are exclusive and discriminating and hateful. https://drcharlieward.com/lady-and-the-trump-mel-k-meets-the-genius-president-trump-at-ladies-for-america Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Let's be real, you can go 'innawoods' as the memers say, but all it is doing is buying time. You'll be hunted down wherever you are eventually, and the elites will probably want the green spaces while they herd the commoners into megacity favelas. How long that will take I'm not sure, but it seems to be the direction we're heading towards. The UK is pretty small too, so you could argue that they'll just turn the whole thing into a smart prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Let's be real, you can go 'innawoods' as the memers say, but all it is doing is buying time. You'll be hunted down wherever you are eventually, and the elites will probably want the green spaces while they herd the commoners into megacity favelas. How long that will take I'm not sure, but it seems to be the direction we're heading towards. Yeah I agree, even if you have an allotment, come the day the zombies will come and steal it all. Alll very Hunger Games, which is how I think the elite want it to play out. I think the only hope is a spiritual evolution which raises us above their material and physical takeover. In some ways, I feel this is getting stronger on some levels. Edited August 3, 2021 by northern star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Ergo Storm said: Technology can be a gift or a curse, and the two can be difficult to separate. Without information technology and the internet, a lot of us here would lack political literacy and understanding of what is going on and we would be ignorant like the majority. On the other hand, you have to ask: to what extent is Covid-19 actually an information virus and the result of the same technology that gives us this dividend of a democratic information society? My view is that technology should be adopted and used selectively to address needs, but I admit that there is an issue of what and how 'needs' are identified and defined, and by who. For instance, we have a need for the internet/web that I have just identified, but maybe most of us - myself certainly - did not start using it with that in mind. We only started using it as a way of addressing our curiosity about subjects. In my case, I am into astronomy, archaeology and wood and metal crafts and back in the 1990s I was a member of BBSs run by academics discussing astronomy and space subjects and various other obscure subjects and disciplines, including welding, Japanese woodcraft and lots of other things. That was when the internet was genuinely free, it was largely a thing for students and academics (which I never was - I stumbled into it accidentally), and the content was uncontrolled and interesting and nobody was self-conscious about it. It was a haven for weirdos, mavericks and outcasts, and it was good. Yet it wasn't a need that was being addressed - at least, not a need as such. For me, the genuine usefulness of the internet has only become clear in retrospect. It's a strange thing. It's almost like Fate chose me. I now realise that I have benefited by opening myself up to ideas and discussion with others and as a result, I have received a top-class, if haphazard, political education. Without that political education, I would be walking round in a mask and making an appointment for a first dose of demon juice. They say the internet is bad for you in the sense that any non-physical activity is bad for you - I'm not so sure. It may be bad for you in some ways, but it's good in others. It's revolutionary. It's amazing, astonishing, spectacular, almost-unbelievable. It's like somebody invented a Gutenberg press and coffee shops all-in-one and made it so that anybody with a high-spec telephone line and a few pound to spare each month can access virtually any idea and discussion of practically any topic, if they have the bent of mind to look for it. But I am selective about technology. On the topic of mobile phones specifically, I can't stand them and have never understood their attraction. A few years ago I reluctantly gave in and bought one, but I only use it to receive calls or as a fall-back in case I am stuck somewhere or have an emergency. Same with tablets/androids and these smart phones. Can't stand them. Don't see the point of them. Maybe this is partly why I have not bought into the Covid-19 hysteria? I am not 'plugged-in'. Or maybe it's the other way round and our personalities and inclinations select us? The internet/web seems like a useful innovation and I think a sane society would have it, albeit it would be confined to academics, scientists and hobbyists and what not; but mobile phones/tablets, etc., seem largely pointless, except in specialised situations, such as emergencies and rescue. In my opinion, they're a classic example of an invention searching for a need and most of the demand for them seems induced rather than addressing a genuine utility. I know this because I am old enough to remember the world without them and we all managed fine. Out of likes; great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, northern star said: Yeah I agree, even if you have an allotment, come the day the zombies will come and steal it all. And if you survive the zombies, and you're one of the last free inhabitants of where you reside, you'll probably be getting hunted by tech, like the Black Mirror Metalhead episode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) Worth remembering humanity has only had electricity for the last 200 years. After existing for thousands of milennia without it, and not just existing but creating some of the greatest buildings, inventions and works of art and highly evolved advances to human evolution without it. Yet here we are, cowering that they might take it away from us. A toy we've only had for a drop in the ocean of time. Its not just about going to live in the woods, but taking back our powers of creativity and invention. Edited August 3, 2021 by northern star 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, northern star said: Just put this in another section, but all grist to resisting a communist takeover. Im not against communal living and sharing, co-operative communities, its a great idea. But this is about a trick to rob from the people to give to the super elite rich, who are hijacking great ideas for their own ends. The so called liberals have become the enemy, by their very natures they are exclusive and discriminating and hateful. https://drcharlieward.com/lady-and-the-trump-mel-k-meets-the-genius-president-trump-at-ladies-for-america The elites have always hijacked others great ideas. Doubt they could come up with anything themselves. It takes imagination. Instead they find other inventors steal their ideas and use their expertise. Elon is always looking for people you can tell he hasn’t got his own brain. Gates does it too. They have money but not the smarts. Too tired to watch that tonight but I’ll try to tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Let's be real, you can go 'innawoods' as the memers say, but all it is doing is buying time. You'll be hunted down wherever you are eventually, and the elites will probably want the green spaces while they herd the commoners into megacity favelas. How long that will take I'm not sure, but it seems to be the direction we're heading towards. The woods are a nice place. Very peaceful. I’m going on a walk in one this week. Helps me de stress from modern life. Also very old big trees I love. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Liberty said: The elites have always hijacked others great ideas. Doubt they could come up with anything themselves. It takes imagination. Instead they find other inventors steal their ideas and use their expertise. Elon is always looking for people you can tell he hasn’t got his own brain. Gates does it too. They have money but not the smarts. Too tired to watch that tonight but I’ll try to tomorrow. The native American Indians probably travelled further than Elon, looking at the stars, because they understood the nature of being connected to the great Oneness, and their own place in it, and true flight and liberation, rather than just technology and the stock markets for a tiny multimillionire few like Branson going into space and the dominion over humanity. Technology without a human heart or soul shows a lack of advancement. Edited August 3, 2021 by northern star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, northern star said: The native American Indians probably travelled further than Elon, looking at the stars, because they understood the nature of being connected to the great Oneness, and their own place in it, rather than just technology and the stock markets and the dominion over humanity. Technology without a human heart or soul shows a lack of advancement. I agree and a lot of truths can come to you when just being out in nature and it helps with problem solving and allows me to reground myself. Better than any medication. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 51 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Fair enough. I sympathize with both sides of the argument. It's easy for me to sit here and say what is the man beside me doing to break our chains, but I know that I'm not a saint either. I think it's healthy to spread awareness about our predicaments, but don't worry, I don't think we should all be pointing fingers at each other. Spot on, all of it; we all have our own ways of doing things, and who is to say who is right or who is wrong. When you get people banging on and on thinking their way is the only way, and abusing those who don’t agree, that smacks of fascism in my book; or a huge fucking ego. Theres enough of that shit in the ‘real world’ without it spilling onto here where most come for the sake of being with like minded people; not to get castigated because ‘your beliefs are better than mine’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Liberty said: I agree and a lot of truths can come to you when just being out in nature and it helps with problem solving and allows me to reground myself. Better than any medication. Nature has the answer to everything, every prevention and cure. Animals can teach us how to live, how to handle stress and just go with the flow. Humans have made a world of stress for themselves that is not natural. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, blowonthepie said: Spot on, all of it; we all have our own ways of doing things, and who is to say who is right or who is wrong. When you get people banging on and on thinking their way is the only way, and abusing those who don’t agree, that smacks of fascism in my book; or a huge fucking ego. Theres enough of that shit in the ‘real world’ without it spilling onto here where most come for the sake of being with like minded people; not to get castigated because ‘your beliefs are better than mine’. Agreed. Anger is one of our emotions as we're all human, and I'm certainly not innocent when it comes to lashing out with edgy comments sometimes, which I'm sorry for if it has pissed some of the folks here off. I guess people like myself just need to learn how to channel our anger in more productive ways. Edited August 3, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, northern star said: Part of the problem is I think we've all become too soft. We should have been living with nature more closely from the start, even with all our comforts and technological advances. It is a physical and spiritual disconnect, and we have made ourselves weak sitting ducks because we cant defend ourselves if our "masters" decide to pull the plug on what we have come to rely on. Modern man just has no idea how to survive and is now at the mercy of corporate demons. An aboriginal will outlast the richest, it will all come down to skills and understanding of what nature provides. Not saying we have to follow the vids below, but a resistance to AI and the takeover of nature and humanity is going to be something we will all have to think about if we are going to survive. Out of likes; great post, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Same here. Most of the time it's off because I don't like it listening for keywords when I'm listening to certain content, or talking about certain things. Then I get nagged by my family to turn it on. Blessing and a curse indeed. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 43 minutes ago, Liberty said: Two sides of the same coin. Both leading to a communist destination. Aye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, blowonthepie said: Spot on, all of it; we all have our own ways of doing things, and who is to say who is right or who is wrong. When you get people banging on and on thinking their way is the only way, and abusing those who don’t agree, that smacks of fascism in my book; or a huge fucking ego. Theres enough of that shit in the ‘real world’ without it spilling onto here where most come for the sake of being with like minded people; not to get castigated because ‘your beliefs are better than mine’. Out of likes... Precisely, also when your words and meanings are twisted for effect it becomes a negative experience. It is usually a good thing to be able to interact with like minds....shame its not always the case. But staying positive will keep us on the right track. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowonthepie Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Agreed. Anger is one of our emotions as we're all human, and I'm certainly not innocent when it comes to lashing out with edgy comments sometimes, which I'm sorry for if it has pissed some of the folks here off. I guess people like myself just need to learn how to channel our anger in more productive ways. Most of us do it, we’re human after all. And in these times people more than ever get frustrated and pissed off, but going on and on and on about something is pointless. State your view, enough said. If some don’t agree, fine; just don’t go attacking them with your mindset; that’s all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, blowonthepie said: Most of us do it, we’re human after all. And in these times people more than ever get frustrated and pissed off, but going on and on and on about something is pointless. State your view, enough said. If some don’t agree, fine; just don’t go attacking them with your mindset; that’s all Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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