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9 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

 

For protests to survive and protesters to be many...there needs to be a realistic approach. If you want to stand there listening to droning without purpose. Go for it... I`ll be attending protests where the content is understandable and will welcome anyone with some well told genuine experiences. Each to their own....

You think peoples personal experience of how lockdown and jabs has effected them is droning?  
 

We differ. Because I think they’re the most interesting. 

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18 minutes ago, Captain Falcon said:

Has the Smartphone turned people into observers of a new twisted form of life as opposed to active participants in real life? They don't see with their own eyes, they look at the screen through the eye of the phone, like it's all some movie or tv show, standing there in a hypnotic stupor.

 

yes and i think we could go even deeper (at the risk of making myself even more unpopular lol)...

 

what if television itself changes our perception? just hear me out....

 

television puts people into a certain brainwave state. Now consider the stats about how many hours people spend sat in front of their television from a young age being conditioned to slip easily into that brainwave state

 

if you look at sports people they practice things over and over and over again to build 'muscle memory' but what if tech like televisions are doing the same thing in the sense that they are teaching people to slip easily and quickly into a hypnogogic state?

 

what if the state that people gain insights in is a quiet, reflective state and what if television puts you into a different state that prevents you from going within and receiving those insights?

 

so maybe it started with television and now we have the smart phone

 

Carl jung speaks about native peoples who had that connection with the inner being and it used to tell them things. It would tell them for example where to find game. It knew things.

 

What if the smart phone and its addictive nature and its addictive applications like facebook are about absorbing people away from that inner connection and instead pulling them into the artificial world of silicon consciousness?

 

What if the smart grid and the covid-jab nanotech is ultimately about merging people with that silicon consciousness and completely disconnecting them with that natural inner voice that carl jung speaks about?

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6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

no what you are trying to do is rationalise away why you don't want to give up your smart phone

Or what you are doing is focusing on my smart phone to take attention away that you do the same thing in a different way. From a pc. But then you don’t want to give up your pc either do you?

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6 minutes ago, TwopackShugar said:

Canada doesnt like this video apparently... i think i know what one it is though 

 

that one was a news clip but i've seen that guy and another ex facebook guy speak on other videos too

You Will Wish You Watched This Before You Started Using Social Media | The Twisted Truth

 

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6 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Or what you are doing is focusing on my smart phone to take attention away that you do the same thing in a different way. From a pc. But then you don’t want to give up your pc either do you?

 

my PC is not currently part of the smart grid

 

they will push me off it though because they intend to get rid of hard drives so that all of your data is stored in the 5G cloud where ultimately it can be accessed by anyone with the knowhow. i won't use a computer on those terms out of principle alone

 

All i currently use it for is talking on this forum, scanning the headlines, work emails and managing photos from my camera

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

yes and i think we could go even deeper (at the risk of making myself even more unpopular lol)...

 

what if television itself changes our perception? just hear me out....

 

television puts people into a certain brainwave state. Now consider the stats about how many hours people spend sat in front of their television from a young age being conditioned to slip easily into that brainwave state

 

if you look at sports people they practice things over and over and over again to build 'muscle memory' but what if tech like televisions are doing the same thing in the sense that they are teaching people to slip easily and quickly into a hypnogogic state?

 

what if the state that people gain insights in is a quiet, reflective state and what if television puts you into a different state that prevents you from going within and receiving those insights?

 

so maybe it started with television and now we have the smart phone

 

Carl jung speaks about native peoples who had that connection with the inner being and it used to tell them things. It would tell them for example where to find game. It knew things.

 

What if the smart phone and its addictive nature and its addictive applications like facebook are about absorbing people away from that inner connection and instead pulling them into the artificial world of silicon consciousness?

 

What of the smart grid and the covid-jab nanotech is ultimately about merging people with that silicon consciousness and completely disconnecting them with that natural inner voice that carl jung speaks about?

 

I am sure that is one (if not the primary) goal of this nonsense.

 

And why TPTB had to wait until almost 2020 to pull this scam. It took a decade or almost a generation of phones and masts and smart tech to get the public into this zombie-like state where they've become so detached from their natural instincts and character, and so hooked into the TV/internet "world" that they are prime for being victims of the ultimate con. To surrender their own bodies to experimental tech.

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

my PC is not currently part of the smart grid

 

they will push me off it though because they intend to get rid of hard drives so that all of your data is stored in the 5G cloud where ultimately it can be accessed by anyone with the knowhow. i won't use a computer on those terms out of principle alone

 

All i currently use it for is talking on this forum, work emails and managing photos from my camera

All your data is being accessed anyway by those in the know. And you’d be a fool to think it wasn’t.  Which I know you don’t. 

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8 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

I am sure that is one (if not the primary) goal of this nonsense.

 

And why TPTB had to wait until almost 2020 to pull this scam. It took a decade or almost a generation of phones and masts and smart tech to get the public into this zombie-like state where they've become so detached from their natural instincts and character, and so hooked into the TV/internet "world" that they are prime for being victims of the ultimate con. To surrender their own bodies to experimental tech.

 

yes and then we have elon musk telling us that because we are on smart phones all the time we are essentially already 'cyborgs' and therefore we should all accept the 'neural lace' brain implant which his company is producing that would then interface us directly with the silicon consciousness

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Just now, Liberty said:

All your data is being accessed anyway by those in the know. And you’d be a fool to think it wasn’t.  Which I know you don’t. 

 

This is true, but it's the smart phones that keep us trapped within the geofences, and our compliance will lead to physical fences if we're not careful.

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5 minutes ago, Liberty said:

All your data is being accessed anyway by those in the know. And you’d be a fool to think it wasn’t.  Which I know you don’t. 

 

i've heard it said they can scan your hard drive in about 10 seconds flat

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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

it's the smart phones that keep us trapped within the geofences

 

my only real defence against that is to convince enough other people to join me in rejecting the smart grid

 

if enough people take the necessary steps we might just have a chance

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7 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

This is true, but it's the smart phones that keep us trapped within the geofences, and our compliance will lead to physical fences if we're not careful.

 

china is using both

 

it monitors everyones constant movements through CCTV with facial recognition and bio-mechanics software

 

but they also monitor what everyone is saying and doing and ascribes them a social credit score which then acts as the whip to keep them in line by restricting their access to goods and services eg transport housing loans etc

 

however they are also clearly locking up uighars in re-education camps so they are also using physical fences as well as economic and social deterants

 

we are moving closer to the chinese model with every passing week and i don't want that for us

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

my only real defence against that is to convince enough other people to join me in rejecting the smart grid

 

if enough people take the necessary steps we might just have a chance

 

Yeah, I know my desktop is harvesting data with the backdoors, but i'm not carrying a desktop around when I leave the house. That's the main difference I see.

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7 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

This is true, but it's the smart phones that keep us trapped within the geofences, and our compliance will lead to physical fences if we're not careful.

You can have your foot in the water without being submerged. 

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5 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Yeah, I know my desktop is harvesting data with the backdoors, but i'm not carrying a desktop around when I leave the house. That's the main difference I see.

 

yes

 

PC's don't seem to create the same bizarre EMF fields that smart phones do either

 

also they are not going to allow you to be targetted contantly by the concentrated beams of the 5G phased arrays which smart phones will

 

as well as tracking devices smart phones are also bugging devices and because everyone now has one on them all the time it means that we are all being listened into all the time whereas that is not the case with PCs that stay in a single room in your house/flat

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1 minute ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Smartphone use, wireless tech use, harms the user, others nearby, communities with large phone towers, and the environment. There's not an awful lot going for it.

Depends what you want out of it. I’ve learned some things today I didn’t know. 

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Technology can be a gift or a curse, and the two can be difficult to separate.  Without information technology and the internet, a lot of us here would lack political literacy and understanding of what is going on and we would be ignorant like the majority.  On the other hand, you have to ask: to what extent is Covid-19 actually an information virus and the result of the same technology that gives us this dividend of a democratic information society?

 

My view is that technology should be adopted and used selectively to address needs, but I admit that there is an issue of what and how 'needs' are identified and defined, and by who.  For instance, we have a need for the internet/web that I have just identified, but maybe most of us - myself certainly - did not start using it with that in mind.  We only started using it as a way of addressing our curiosity about subjects.  In my case, I am into astronomy, archaeology and wood and metal crafts and back in the 1990s I was a member of BBSs run by academics discussing astronomy and space subjects and various other obscure subjects and disciplines, including welding, Japanese woodcraft and lots of other things.  That was when the internet was genuinely free, it was largely a thing for students and academics (which I never was - I stumbled into it accidentally), and the content was uncontrolled and interesting and nobody was self-conscious about it.  It was a haven for weirdos, mavericks and outcasts, and it was good.  Yet it wasn't a need that was being addressed - at least, not a need as such.  

 

For me, the genuine usefulness of the internet has only become clear in retrospect.  It's a strange thing.  It's almost like Fate chose me.  I now realise that I have benefited by opening myself up to ideas and discussion with others and as a result, I have received a top-class, if haphazard, political education.  Without that political education, I would be walking round in a mask and making an appointment for a first dose of demon juice.  

 

They say the internet is bad for you in the sense that any non-physical activity is bad for you - I'm not so sure.  It may be bad for you in some ways, but it's good in others.  It's revolutionary.  It's amazing, astonishing, spectacular, almost-unbelievable.  It's like somebody invented a Gutenberg press and coffee shops all-in-one and made it so that anybody with a high-spec telephone line and a few pound to spare each month can access virtually any idea and discussion of practically any topic, if they have the bent of mind to look for it.

 

But I am selective about technology.  On the topic of mobile phones specifically, I can't stand them and have never understood their attraction.  A few years ago I reluctantly gave in and bought one, but I only use it to receive calls or as a fall-back in case I am stuck somewhere or have an emergency.  Same with tablets/androids and these smart phones.  Can't stand them.  Don't see the point of them.  Maybe this is partly why I have not bought into the Covid-19 hysteria?  I am not 'plugged-in'. Or maybe it's the other way round and our personalities and inclinations select us?

 

The internet/web seems like a useful innovation and I think a sane society would have it, albeit it would be confined to academics, scientists and hobbyists and what not; but mobile phones/tablets, etc., seem largely pointless, except in specialised situations, such as emergencies and rescue.  In my opinion, they're a classic example of an invention searching for a need and most of the demand for them seems induced rather than addressing a genuine utility.  I know this because I am old enough to remember the world without them and we all managed fine.

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Just now, Liberty said:

Excuses. 

 

I don't think so. I'm not saying they're not both a danger, just that smart phones are the bigger danger.

 

If California is anything to go by, then they'll crack down on you building your own desktop too, all in the name of consumption. Then we're trapped in closed system devices, like phones, tablets, and games consoles. They know it's harder to modify those than a desktop.

 

 

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