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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

lol

 

yes life was so impossible back in the 90s without smart phones!

 

However did we ever manage for the other 200,000 years of existence?

I’ve got Bill trying to take my steak and you trying to take my phone. I’m keeping both!

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8 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

Most of us  know about digital currency and Smart phones... that is not a revelation.

 

there is the world of difference between knowing something and truely understanding it

 

its only when you truely understand something and have assimilated that truth into your being that you then actually overcome inertia and break habits and change behaviours

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2 minutes ago, Liberty said:

I’ve got Bill trying to take my steak and you trying to take my phone. I’m keeping both!

 

bill wants you to keep the phone

 

its bills mob that gave it to you!

 

that's the whole point i'm trying to get across!

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1 minute ago, Liberty said:

I’ve got Bill trying to take my steak and you trying to take my phone. I’m keeping both!

I mean fuck bill and all, But this idea about getting rid of phones isnt a bad one. Using a phone is essentially signing a unwritten contract with the carriers saying that you give them youre permission to cover the entire planet with these signals to keep the service working everywhere and anywhere. 

That being said i do own a phone, but im real close to tossing the dirty bitch

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13 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Kind of the same argument as knives and guns. A knife is just a knife and can be used for good or bad. They’re not the same thing. One is a lethal injection the other has its uses although carries risk if exposed to those frequencies for long periods of time. Something I’m aware of and capable of my own risk assessment. 
 

Are you ultra clean living yourself?  Because I would expect you to be for all you are preeching. 

 

i don't have any smart devices no

 

i don't use facebook

 

now those are just two simple examples of many i could give you

 

now imagine if EVERYONE stopped using all smart devices AND facebook tomorrow

 

that would be a drastically different world. How would they build the smart grid without your compliance?

 

How would artificial intelligence gather up all your data points when you weren't constantly feeding them to it?

 

do you see my point?

 

my point is that waving a placard in the street does not take down the smart grid.

 

not using smart devices is what takes down the smart grid

 

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3 minutes ago, TwopackShugar said:

I mean fuck bill and all, But this idea about getting rid of phones isnt a bad one. Using a phone is essentially signing a unwritten contract with the carriers saying that you give them youre permission to cover the entire planet with these signals to keep the service working everywhere and anywhere. 

That being said i do own a phone, but im real close to tossing the dirty bitch

Ok. That’s your choice. 

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3 minutes ago, TwopackShugar said:

I mean fuck bill and all, But this idea about getting rid of phones isnt a bad one. Using a phone is essentially signing a unwritten contract with the carriers saying that you give them youre permission to cover the entire planet with these signals to keep the service working everywhere and anywhere. 

That being said i do own a phone, but im real close to tossing the dirty bitch

 

There's a whole bunch of problems with it

 

Have you ever held an EMF meter to a smart phone? The readings are insane! And they constantly modulate in a completely haphazard way

 

Your body is being constantly subjected to those EMF fields including all the insane spikes in frequency and where do most people keep their smart phone? In their trouser pocket next to their baby making organs. Is it any wonder there are so many fertility problems in the world?

 

I don't do that and i only need to look at a woman to get her pregnant

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

there is the world of difference between knowing something and truely understanding it

 

its only when you truely understand something and have assimilated that truth into your being that you then actually overcome inertia and break habits and change behaviours

 

.....ohhhh and you being the ONE to enlighten us all...is still playing hide and seek with your `truths` ùnderstanding`and `suggestions`.... get over yourself. I`ve been pushing back for decades and and quite capable of understanding and overcoming...thank you very much. I also spend time helping others to clue in to what is going on...you are not the only one out there who `gets it`....but many of us dont keep bleating and banging our chests.  Like I said...cough up the goods. 

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

i don't have any smart devices no

 

i don't use facebook

 

now those are just two simple examples of many i could give you

 

now imagine if EVERYONE stopped using all smart devices AND facebook tomorrow

 

that would be a drastically different world. How would they build the smart grid without your compliance?

 

How would artificial intelligence gather up all your data points when you weren't constantly feeding them to it?

 

do you see my point?

 

my point is that waving a placard in the street does not take down the smart grid.

 

not using smart devices is what takes down the smart grid

 

 

I agree, but we're in a minority. If all of us dissidents stop feeding into the smart grid, that would be cool, but I want to know how we get the majority to adopt this way of thinking.

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't have any smart devices no

 

i don't use facebook

 

now those are just two simple examples of many i could give you

 

now imagine if EVERYONE stopped using all smart devices AND facebook tomorrow

 

that would be a drastically different world. How would they build the smart grid without your compliance?

 

How would artificial intelligence gather up all your data points when you weren't constantly feeding them to it?

 

do you see my point?

 

my point is that waving a placard in the street does not take down the smart grid.

 

not using smart devices is what takes down the smart grid

 

Surely you know your pc is gathering data on you too?  We know you are using that. 
 

 

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2 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

.....ohhhh and you being the ONE to enlighten us all...is still playing hide and seek with your `truths` ùnderstanding`and `suggestions`.... get over yourself. I`ve been pushing back for decades and and quite capable of understanding and overcoming...thank you very much. I also spend time helping others to clue in to what is going on...you are not the only one out there who `gets it`....but many of us dont keep bleating and banging our chests.  Like I said...cough up the goods. 

 

i'll give it to you straight: if you are defending smart tech then you don't really understand what is going on

 

you are here attacking the guy trying to get people to think about the dangers of the growing smart grid

 

is that really what you want to be doing?

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3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I agree, but we're in a minority. If all of us dissidents stop feeding into the smart grid, that would be cool, but I want to know how we get the majority to adopt this way of thinking.

 

it's a problem but its the same with the covid-vax situation

 

lets say that the jabbed cap out at say 75%-80% of the population once the government is done jabbing all the kids and pressuring the adults

 

20% of people is still a very big block for them to overcome. They are going to have to do something extreme (fairly soon) to break that impasse but by doing so they risk waking up many of the 80% who will have family and friends amongst the 20% who they don't want to see stomped by a jackboot

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10 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Surely you know your pc is gathering data on you too?  We know you are using that.

 

yes it concerns me for sure

 

for example i avoid facebook right? But someone takes a photo of me at an event and posts it on facebook.

 

Now they can zoom into that photo and scan my iris for that biometric data plus scan my face for their facial recognition. I never gave them permission to do that but someone else through their poor choice has now compromised my security

 

If the palms of my hands are showing in the photo they can also scan my fingerprints

 

If its a recording then they can scan my voice for voice recognition and they can scan my bio-mechanics (how i move) and feed that all into the artificial intelligence smart grid so that it can track me around even if i covered my face and eyes with a mask and sunglasses

 

see how other peoples actions can be a problem?

 

If you aren't thinking about all of this stuff then you aren't really getting to grips with the problems we now face

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i'll give it to you straight: if you are defending smart tech then you don't really understand what is going on

 

you are here attacking the guy trying to get people to think about the dangers of the growing smart grid

 

is that really what you want to be doing?

 

Did you even read my post?

I said... I do not have a Smart phone. Hence why I could not do Arrive Can when I came back to Canada several months ago. I couldnt download their app.... and wouldnt if I could. So they were stumped.. They gave me a piece of paper to fill out...but without my glasses I couldnt see what i was writing. Nevertheless I got through.... I do not have a Smart phone to download apps... and the basic old phone I do have is not registered to anyone I know...or anyone who exists. Im not attacking you ...I am saying you are attacking others...please dont twist my words. I am asking you to provide details that you think will save the world. You dismiss everyone elses ideas and what they say... whilst claiming to have the answers... but you provide no answers yourself.

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

yes it concerns me for sure

 

for example i avoid facebook right? But someone takes a photo of me at an event and posts it on facebook.

 

Now they can zoom into that photo and scan my iris for that biometric data plus scan my face for their facial recognition. I never gave them permission to do that but someone else through their poor choice has now compromised my security

 

If the palms of may hands are showing in the photo they can also scan my fingerprints

 

If its a recording then they can scan my voice for voice recognition and they can scan my bio-mechanics (how i move) and feed that all into the artificial intelligence smart grid so that it can track me around even if a covered my face and eyes with a mask and sunglasses

 

see how other peoples actions can be a problem?

Yes. Especially when they have a controlling nature. 

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I don't know much about the organisers of the protests, but I'm surprised that they've not yet thought to use their impressive attendance numbers to do something along the lines of an Occupy BBC.

 

Nothing will change until the mainstream is forced to give voice to those credentialed people who are offering an alternative expert opinion.

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Just now, Matistuta said:

I don't know much about the organisers of the protests, but I'm surprised that they've not yet thought to use their impressive attendance numbers to do something along the lines of an Occupy BBC.

 

Nothing will change until the mainstream is forced to give voice to those credentialed people who are offering an alternative expert opinion.

Should be people from the crowd speaking. Who wants to listen to the same people over and over again?  

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Just now, Liberty said:

Should be people from the crowd speaking. Who wants to listen to the same people over and over again?  

 

I think there could be general population input...but not everyone is able to hold the crowd. Maybe there could be a pooling of peoples experiences and give many a 3 - 5 minute timeslot to air their experience and their view. Too much time allocated would not hold the crowd I think.

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21 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

I am saying you are attacking others...

 

everyone here is attacking someones behaviours

 

mostly they are attacking normies for wearing masks or getting the covid jabs

 

all i'm doing is taking things that step further......where it now needs to go (if we are actually going to win)

 

21 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

I am asking you to provide details that you think will save the world.

 

To list off exact steps is a massive topic but i might distill some things down at some point

 

So instead of doing that i'll just stick to principles that can then be applied to everything.

 

I mentioned mark passio earlier in the thread and said i agreed with what he is saying about karma which is that the choices made by individuals all then add up to create the wider situation that we all live in

 

If the choices are bad choices then they all add up to create a bad situation that everyone has to then live in which is their collective karma for the choices that they each made

 

Or to put it as simply as possible: we all suffer for the choices made by individuals

 

I have mentioned as an example of this smart-tech but you can apply it to ANYTHING in our society. For example you could say that if we all choose to watch the mainstream corporate media then we will all end up being brainwashed imbeciles and the elites will continue their crimes in the shadow of our collective ignorance. That horrible world the elites would create would then be the collective karma we would all have to endure for the choices we made as individuals to listen to the wrong people

 

If we as individuals make the choice to engage with the smart-grid then it will grow and before long it will be a complete prison that we will then all find ourselves trapped in as the collective karma for the poor choices that we made as individuals

 

This is at core the PERSONAL RESPONSIBLITY argument and the personal responsiblity argument is not popular with the 'looking for a saviour to rescue them' crowd because it means that they themselves will actually have to do some heavy lifting in terms of thinking about whats wrong and whats right and then acting on it instead of having some knight in white armour ride in to rescue them

 

***spoiler alert: there is NO knight in white armour. Its a delusion. There is only enough people taking personal responsibility. Nothing else will work***

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Should be people from the crowd speaking. Who wants to listen to the same people over and over again?  

 

what about a mass smart phone smashing party?

 

everyone could do a zorba the greek dance and smash the crap put of their smart phones on the tarmac?

 

who's with me? (who is really awake?)

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Just now, Beaujangles said:

 

I think there could be general population input...but not everyone is able to hold the crowd. Maybe there could be a pooling of peoples experiences and give many a 3 - 5 minute timeslot to air their experience and their view. Too much time allocated would not hold the crowd I think.

Again. You’re thinking too much. Individual people and experiences are far more interesting. 
 

I didn’t watch the speeches because I knew what they’d say. So I’m not interested in listening to the same thing over and over again. I’m always interested in individual experiences though. Could watch that all day tbh. 

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27 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't have any smart devices no

 

i don't use facebook

 

now those are just two simple examples of many i could give you

 

now imagine if EVERYONE stopped using all smart devices AND facebook tomorrow

 

that would be a drastically different world. How would they build the smart grid without your compliance?

 

How would artificial intelligence gather up all your data points when you weren't constantly feeding them to it?

 

do you see my point?

 

my point is that waving a placard in the street does not take down the smart grid.

 

not using smart devices is what takes down the smart grid

 

Trying to get people to understand and accept that the "modern way of life" with its smartphone-centric design and the damage it is doing to yourself, those around you, and how it is aiding the smart grid, is one of the toughest things. I've spent 15 years, almost, and the resistance and abuse you can get is really quite something.

 

They cause addiction, so it is basically like trying to get an addict off their crack.

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