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3 minutes ago, zarkov said:

 

“The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.” —Ayn Rand

 

While that is true, hyperindividualism got us in this mess. It takes a collective effort to ensure the rights of the individual.

 

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2 hours ago, Mr H said:

Indeed. I just spoke to my brother about this, to try and convince him not to let his kids have it. He said they're starting next week with it at their school - although he hasn't decided yet. His kid's friends are all having it.😑

 

My daughter was the only teenager in her class at school who did not receive Gardasil when they were vaccinating 15 year-old females for cervical cancer, after a publicity campaign, using the late Jade Goody. Teachers tried to coerce her with the line that "everyone else is having it" but she said, "my mum said no" and refused.

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1 minute ago, Prometheus said:

 

Divide & Conquer. Mixing of race, that they will rule over all the Nations of the World.

 

I guess is up to us to find common ground. Lest we be ruled by despots by virtue of our tribal inequities.

 

Yep. Without philia, you need something else to bring the people together, and Christianity no longer fits that bill in the West, and I have no idea if there is anything else that can.

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10 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Yep. Without philia, you need something else to bring the people together, and Christianity no longer fits that bill in the West, and I have no idea if there is anything else that can.

 

Maybe the Sacred Feminine in Aquarius. Ghandi did say that western women will lead the world.... Good he didn't mean Nanna Pelosi.

 

My, my, my Grandma what big teeth you have. All the better to eat you with my dear..

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1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

While that is true, hyperindividualism got us in this mess. It takes a collective effort to ensure the rights of the individual.

 

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I dont agree. Individualism is neither hyper nor hypo. Its merely individualism.

What got us into this mess is "hyper"socialism - the collective effort to destroy individual rights.

 

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3 minutes ago, zarkov said:

 

I dont agree. Individualism is neither hyper nor hypo. Its merely individualism.

What got us into this mess is "hyper"socialism - the collective effort to destroy individual rights.

 

 

I'm saying individualism taken to the extreme is problematic. When you tell every European not to see themselves as a group while allowing others to collectivize, it doesn't surprise me that we're being plundered.

 

Edit: Not saying other groups aren't being destroyed in other ways though.

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A Democracy has no laws, only guidelines. For a Democracy is mob rule, the majority decides fate. If the majority decide someone should be locked up or a constitution hung for reasons agreed upon by the majority, then the law is broken and laws as in nature can not be broken, only rules can.

 

Now ask yourself... Who rules the Mob?

 

Democracies have been quicker to abuse and corrupt than any Monarchy, and the Universe, my child, is a Monarchy.

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1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I'm saying individualism taken to the extreme is problematic. When you tell every European not to see themselves as a group while allowing others to collectivize, it doesn't surprise me that we're being plundered.

 

Edit: Not saying other groups aren't being destroyed in other ways though.

 

 

i'm saying that individualism hasnt been taken to an extreme. I believe it to be the opposite.

It was conflated with groupthink where notions of equaiity and such were floated as the balance, thus negating the individual.

 

If you do not have individual rights then you are a slave.

 

 

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I think individualism has been taken to the extreme. If you see it in term of the expression of Ego then certainly we have seen individualism expressed to the highest degrees. But in societal terms only the upper classes have the freedom and thus sovereignty to be individual.

 

Commoners are so common to the elite, that by this very nature they have always seem us as an indivisible group to be ruled en masse. We've always just been numbers to them, except of course when Hillary Clinton individually names victims of Trumps insults... Then we are individuals to them.

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The danger we face today, however, is that some people have lost patience with the rule of law and yearn for a purer form of democracy. This is what populist parties—left, right and centre—all promise.

 

They tell the electorate that the only reason governments don’t give them exactly what they want is that the political elites are in cahoots to defend their own interests and those of whom they rely on to maintain power. All talk of “rule of law” or “balancing competing interests” is just a smokescreen for not doing what the people demand.

 

So when populists argue that they offer a return to a purer form of democracy, they are in a sense right. However, Aristotle would caution that when you opt for this kind of democracy what you often get is demagoguery instead: an all-powerful leader who imposes their will without restraint, empowered by a supposed mandate from the people.

 

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/philosophy/aristotles-thinking-on-democracy-has-more-relevance-than-ever

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