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6 hours ago, BossCrow said:

Agreed. It was the same situation in all the Trfalgar Sq protests in 2020. There are UK scientists and doctors speaking out against convid, but how many have been invited to talk by Stand Up X?

 

They are most likely an 'astroturf movement' (fake grassroots movement). We need several organisations organising big protests not the same one every time. Genuine grassroots movements will inevitably be infiltrated and subverted by govt agents, but it's obviously easier for the security services when they themselves set up these organisations in the first place.  

 

Kate Shemirani is clearly there to look eccentric and discredit genuine activists. Same goes for Piers Corbyn in my view.

 

Was thinking about the StandupX logo earlier today and noticed the two Xs-

 

 

orangecorsswitharms.webp.5db3fbde1e208bda6895cdf2bad434cd.webp

 

2 crosses (orange X, and the X formed by the 2 fists) = XX (i.e. double-cross) This code is used by British secret service going back to WW2 - For example apparently it's common that targets of assassination, etc. (eg. George Floyd according to some) will have a $20 note put into their pocket to signify they've been 'double crossed'. (XX being 20 in Roman numerals.)

 

The Double-Cross System or XX System was a World War II counter-espionage and deception operation of the British Security Service (a civilian organisation usually referred to by its cover title MI5). Nazi agents in Britain – real and false – were captured, turned themselves in or simply announced themselves, and were then used by the British to broadcast mainly disinformation to their Nazi controllers. Its operations were overseen by the Twenty Committee under the chairmanship of John Cecil Masterman; the name of the committee comes from the number 20 in Roman numerals: "XX" (i.e. a double cross).

 

Or XX for female chromosomes i.e. because Satanists worship the female body system. Plus Satan is a tranny. 

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11 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Germany’s stubborn unvaccinated fuel debate over their rights
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/germany-s-stubborn-unvaccinated-fuel-debate-over-their-rights-20210726-p58ctk.html

 

'But the proposal have proved divisive, even within Merkel’s own Christian Democrats party, as the candidate to succeed her at the next election, Armin Laschet, is opposed to any pressure on people to get vaccinated.'

 

“I don’t believe in compulsory vaccinations and I don’t believe we should put indirect pressure on people to get vaccinated,” Laschet told the German broadcaster ZDF on Sunday. “In a free country there are rights to freedom, not just for specific groups.”

 

“We’re not going to sustainably change the vaccination behaviour of individuals with threats,” he told RedaktionsNetzwerk Deutschland.

I agree but this paragraph from the same article is still very telling: If Germany’s vaccination rates remain too low this fall, other options could be considered, Laschet said, adding “but not now”.

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12 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Out of reactions, but probably true.

 

Many have been brainwashed to think cancel culture is healthy too, which is the road to punishing people for dissenting behaviour like a SCS.

My lady’s been talking about Boris comments about reward for eating better etc. Found a few vague articles about this but nothing specific to U.K. Unless it suggests what a system might be like when compared to P.R.C.

Do you or anyone else here have any specific links to U.K. plans set out by government etc!

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6 hours ago, BossCrow said:

Agreed. It was the same situation in all the Trfalgar Sq protests in 2020. There are UK scientists and doctors speaking out against convid, but how many have been invited to talk by Stand Up X?

 

They are most likely an 'astroturf movement' (fake grassroots movement). We need several organisations organising big protests not the same one every time. Genuine grassroots movements will inevitably be infiltrated and subverted by govt agents, but it's obviously easier for the security services when they themselves set up these organisations in the first place.  

 

Kate Shemirani is clearly there to look eccentric and discredit genuine activists. Same goes for Piers Corbyn in my view.

 

Was thinking about the StandupX logo earlier today and noticed the two Xs-

 

 

orangecorsswitharms.webp.5db3fbde1e208bda6895cdf2bad434cd.webp

 

2 crosses (orange X, and the X formed by the 2 fists) = XX (i.e. double-cross) This code is used by British secret service going back to WW2 - For example apparently it's common that targets of assassination, etc. (eg. George Floyd according to some) will have a $20 note put into their pocket to signify they've been 'double crossed'. (XX being 20 in Roman numerals.)

 

The Double-Cross System or XX System was a World War II counter-espionage and deception operation of the British Security Service (a civilian organisation usually referred to by its cover title MI5). Nazi agents in Britain – real and false – were captured, turned themselves in or simply announced themselves, and were then used by the British to broadcast mainly disinformation to their Nazi controllers. Its operations were overseen by the Twenty Committee under the chairmanship of John Cecil Masterman; the name of the committee comes from the number 20 in Roman numerals: "XX" (i.e. a double cross).

 

 

There was infighting between groups last year, but they seem to have come together now.

 

Saturday's protest in London was organised by imo the dubious Fiona Hine of Covileaks.

 

See this link first which names the organisations behind the Worldwide Freedom rallies in each country.

 

https://worldwidedemonstration.com/

 

This confirms the London rally was organised by Covileaks and Offical Voice, the latter I have never heard of.

 

https://covileaks.co.uk/

 

https://www.officialvoice.co.uk/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

They'd be dobbing each other in just for the extra points on the SCS. Sainsbury's will give out Nectar points for ever dissident you grass up. It's England. My old man used to say that if the Germans had crossed the Channel in 1940, there would have been no shortage of collaborators. He had a particular contempt for those he called 'curtain twitchers.' 

Fantastic post. Imo really gets to the crux of the matter. We have nothing to fear physically from the unawakened other than their support for whatever the gov says.(bad enough maybe). But the curtain twitcher/do Gooder brigade will snitch on you, spread hate about you and gladly clap whilst you board the train.

Youve only got to look at local social media groups who keep an eye out on their area. Whilst in theory a very good idea, stopping crime and helping elderly, very often is abused by fools who like to be self important and control the direction of your area.

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Personally, I'm sick and tired of hearing 'We are the 99%' on social media. 

 

'We' will never again be the 99%.

Did you get that? NEVER!

 

The country has been permanently, irreversibly split between the questioning unvaxxed and the dumb vaxxed, who thought it was their moral duty to attend jabattoirs and take the death shot on nothing more than a corrupt government's say-so.

 

Believe me, unless we fight with everything we've got, we will never be free.

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10 hours ago, Prometheus said:

I think the 'rat' is a deep seated psychological weakness that is exploited by would be tyrants. It starts with tell tales in school and ends up with collaborators. Formed from an infantile need to please their parent/master.

 

The best example would be Draculas Egor. We should watch out for such people for they would sacrifice babies to save their own cowardly skin.

 

Those who aren't willing to die for a cause are not fit to live.

 

What would you be willing to die for?

 

Its gonna be A Brave New World.

Well said. You know though. I hate when animals are used to describe traitors in humans. The average “rat” is way below any bottom feeder. Unfortunately “human” would be a much more deserving name for a “rat.” We’ve always lowered non human animals to a sub level whose existence is of less worth than ours. When clearly as a system everything on this earth has equal value. Even the most insignificant of stones is tomorrow’s soil etc. 
Unfortunately humans have an endless and seemingly effortless amount of spite and ignorance which they joyfully share with the world.

Not all, people like yourself and others here and more in the spotlight now are an exception.

Not digging at you remotely. Just commentating how as a species we take words and twist them to our purpose. In the context of animals all the so called “vermin” then suffers. Much like “weeds”  which are just naturally occurring plants living where their meant to. Hence no commercial value.

sorry for the waffle😁

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3 hours ago, alexa said:

He's right in what he says.

 

A protestor muses that all previous marches have been controlled opposition...

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=URNOMW6W1K5A

 

i think they are trying to label the protests as "theirs" so that the ever negative conspiracy people(a lot of them) "expose" them and thus sending a message there is no resistance and there is no point to fight

 

the whole plandemic is psychological warfare from start 

 

i think a lot of countries have far more jabbed people than they are reporting so the plandemic can continue 

 

and above all to show and advertise goverment as ultimate ,don't question them,they can't do wrong anything

and "you" must obey to the authority

 

masks above many others,have one purpouse

a symbol for shut up,do as told,submit...

 

it's a war on the mind that we are helpless,weak.....

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4 hours ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

have said boost the morale and make people feel that they are not on their own

 

Sadly, this indicates to me that those that say they are awake are not quite awake.

They are still looking for outer source, not self-sufficient.

When you have to rely on others to boost, uplift your mood, you are not in control. You will always be looking out for some other authority figure to save you.

 

In this circumstance, you need to have learned to boost your confidence, change your mood by yourself.

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4 hours ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

have said boost the morale and make people feel that they are not on their own

 

Sadly, this indicates to me that those that say they are awake are not quite awake.

They are still looking for outer source, not self-sufficient.

When you have to rely on others to boost, uplift your mood, you are not in control. You will always be looking out for some other authority figure to save you.

 

In this circumstance, you need to have learned to boost your confidence, change your mood by yourself.

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36 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

There was infighting between groups last year, but they seem to have come together now.

 

Saturday's protest in London was organised by imo the dubious Fiona Hine of Covileaks.

 

See this link first which names the organisations behind the Worldwide Freedom rallies in each country.

 

https://worldwidedemonstration.com/

 

This confirms the London rally was organised by Covileaks and Offical Voice, the latter I have never heard of.

 

https://covileaks.co.uk/

 

https://www.officialvoice.co.uk/

 

Could be. This page doesn't come up for me but may be someone can read?

"Fiona Hine The former events manager raised £4,500 to organise an anti-lockdown rally in London."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-nhs-staff-flock-to-anti-vax-group-k8sq7q63w

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Vaccine Buses will be at Celtic FC and Rangers FC stadiums where the fans can get the vaccine, 18-39 will be offered the Moderna vaccine and 40 and over the heart stopper Astrazeneca vaccine.

Come and get your vaccine or you won't be allowed to watch your favorite team , clever mind games from the P.T.B, I can picture it now in my head , Celtic and Rangers fans marching down to their club stadium waiting in a long queue to get on the bus for their jab 🙄 giving them a vaccine sticker with their club badge on it .

I just hope the fans says Fuck off but I can't see that happening.

 

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/19461242.celtic-park-ibrox-hampden-host-drop-in-vaccine-buses/

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41 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

Personally, I'm sick and tired of hearing 'We are the 99%' on social media. 

 

'We' will never again be the 99%.

 

Did you get that? NEVER!

 

The country has been permanently, irreversibly split between the questioning unvaxxed and the dumb vaxxed, who thought it was their moral duty to attend jabattoirs and take the death shot on nothing more than a corrupt government's say-so.

 

Believe me, unless we fight with everything we've got, we will never be free.

I’ve always believed we are the 1%. 

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7 hours ago, BossCrow said:

Agreed. It was the same situation in all the Trfalgar Sq protests in 2020. There are UK scientists and doctors speaking out against convid, but how many have been invited to talk by Stand Up X?

 

They are most likely an 'astroturf movement' (fake grassroots movement). We need several organisations organising big protests not the same one every time. Genuine grassroots movements will inevitably be infiltrated and subverted by govt agents, but it's obviously easier for the security services when they themselves set up these organisations in the first place.  

 

Kate Shemirani is clearly there to look eccentric and discredit genuine activists. Same goes for Piers Corbyn in my view.

 

Was thinking about the StandupX logo earlier today and noticed the two Xs-

 

 

orangecorsswitharms.webp.5db3fbde1e208bda6895cdf2bad434cd.webp

 

2 crosses (orange X, and the X formed by the 2 fists) = XX (i.e. double-cross) This code is used by British secret service going back to WW2 - For example apparently it's common that targets of assassination, etc. (eg. George Floyd according to some) will have a $20 note put into their pocket to signify they've been 'double crossed'. (XX being 20 in Roman numerals.)

 

The Double-Cross System or XX System was a World War II counter-espionage and deception operation of the British Security Service (a civilian organisation usually referred to by its cover title MI5). Nazi agents in Britain – real and false – were captured, turned themselves in or simply announced themselves, and were then used by the British to broadcast mainly disinformation to their Nazi controllers. Its operations were overseen by the Twenty Committee under the chairmanship of John Cecil Masterman; the name of the committee comes from the number 20 in Roman numerals: "XX" (i.e. a double cross).

 

Interesting.

Assassination...

Grenfell-United-logo-150x150.png

 

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1 hour ago, Golden Retriever said:

This guy has some good advice.  Marching though residential areas of London, i.e. Clapham etc gives

more exposure to the numbers and cause, than listening to speakers in Trafalgar Square for three hours.

 

https://twitter.com/James_Townsend9/status/1419266170864156672

 

 

I somewhat agree that we passed the stage where we need a lenghty show of speakers that basically repeat what everyone knows that attend these.

There is no new information. It isnt really about information either.

However, i see some importance for it to gather all people before a march can or should begin.

So its a nice way to fill up numbers.

 

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20 minutes ago, elongated1 said:

 

Sadly, this indicates to me that those that say they are awake are not quite awake.

They are still looking for outer source, not self-sufficient.

When you have to rely on others to boost, uplift your mood, you are not in control. You will always be looking out for some other authority figure to save you.

 

In this circumstance, you need to have learned to boost your confidence, change your mood by yourself.

I agree in principal but human nature especially in modern times seems to be that you need to boost your mood . while it may be desirable to be emotionally self sufficient I imagine very few people are .i dont consider I need others to boost my mood ,I actually try to avoid most people but the thought that there is a general collective mentality about a cause can be helpful .

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2 minutes ago, Freedom Lane55 said:

I agree in principal but human nature especially in modern times seems to be that you need to boost your mood . while it may be desirable to be emotionally self sufficient I imagine very few people are .i dont consider I need others to boost my mood ,I actually try to avoid most people but the thought that there is a general collective mentality about a cause can be helpful .

 

Weak mind never wins the war.

You'll all need to watch more viking movies. lol

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56 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

This guy has some good advice.  Marching though residential areas of London, i.e. Clapham etc gives

more exposure to the numbers and cause, than listening to speakers in Trafalgar Square for three hours.

 

https://twitter.com/James_Townsend9/status/1419266170864156672

I too agree with his points outlined in the posts beneath the main header. One can only hope it was naivety and not deliberate subversion.

 

Assuming it was naivety, I would expect the next one to be free flowing for the majority of the time and not static - that is if the main organisers can accept constructive criticism. If they can't (and are not deliberately steering the masses into a cul-de-sac) then they are putting themselves above the actual mission.

 

What I've seen in the past is what I warned about (to a few of these groups on their FB pages) after the first big demo:

 

Egos, financial motives, splinter groups, in-fighting, all will destroy a movement very quickly. I also told them to watch out for anybody famous who has ambitions to be a 'leader' as figureheads are easier to take out than nobodies. In this case you have Katie Hopkins and we all know how she's perceived. Indeed, it would not surprise me if she's working for the enemy, playing her part so to speak.

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2 minutes ago, Michael said:

 

 

I somewhat agree that we passed the stage where we need a lenghty show of speakers that basically repeat what everyone knows that attend these.

There is no new information. It isnt really about information either.

However, i see some importance for it to gather all people before a march can or should begin.

So its a nice way to fill up numbers.

 

It’s more like a show isn’t it?  Like a poor mans version of ted x or something. I don’t speak that much verbally or on the net about my views because I get sick of hearing and saying them myself. So I definitely don’t want to stand around and hear someone on stage say them!

 

and then to top it all off ask for a fucking round of applause.  
 

Over to you Michael. Before you make another another post may I just ask all the members to give you a clap and cheer. 

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45 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

Personally, I'm sick and tired of hearing 'We are the 99%' on social media. 

 

'We' will never again be the 99%.

 

Did you get that? NEVER!

 

The country has been permanently, irreversibly split between the questioning unvaxxed and the dumb vaxxed, who thought it was their moral duty to attend jabattoirs and take the death shot on nothing more than a corrupt government's say-so.

 

Believe me, unless we fight with everything we've got, we will never be free.

 

I think it refers to the 1% that consider themself as the ruling class.

There are those that try to control you, which we name the 1% (its actually less than 1%, but its a reference anyway)

Then those that enforce those ( military and police)

And then the rest, which are the 99%.

The 99% are all people that "need" to be controlled, which includes sheep and wakend people alltogether.

 

So we are the 99% and its good to remember constantly that we hold the power. That is why its so important that the sheep wake up, to remember where the true power is.

If that is sucessful is another chapter and i can agree, this will be a tough nut to crack.

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