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5 hours ago, Morpheus said:

They couldn't be more right. Those characters are de-legitimising this movement spouting their crap. That bitch wants her 15 mins of fame and to be honest she can fuck off. Look at the damage she's caused in 24 hrs, shills. I'm starting to question the others now as well for letting these idiots on stage. 

Agreed. It was the same situation in all the Trfalgar Sq protests in 2020. There are UK scientists and doctors speaking out against convid, but how many have been invited to talk by Stand Up X?

 

They are most likely an 'astroturf movement' (fake grassroots movement). We need several organisations organising big protests not the same one every time. Genuine grassroots movements will inevitably be infiltrated and subverted by govt agents, but it's obviously easier for the security services when they themselves set up these organisations in the first place.  

 

Kate Shemirani is clearly there to look eccentric and discredit genuine activists. Same goes for Piers Corbyn in my view.

 

Was thinking about the StandupX logo earlier today and noticed the two Xs-

 

 

orangecorsswitharms.webp.5db3fbde1e208bda6895cdf2bad434cd.webp

 

2 crosses (orange X, and the X formed by the 2 fists) = XX (i.e. double-cross) This code is used by British secret service going back to WW2 - For example apparently it's common that targets of assassination, etc. (eg. George Floyd according to some) will have a $20 note put into their pocket to signify they've been 'double crossed'. (XX being 20 in Roman numerals.)

 

The Double-Cross System or XX System was a World War II counter-espionage and deception operation of the British Security Service (a civilian organisation usually referred to by its cover title MI5). Nazi agents in Britain – real and false – were captured, turned themselves in or simply announced themselves, and were then used by the British to broadcast mainly disinformation to their Nazi controllers. Its operations were overseen by the Twenty Committee under the chairmanship of John Cecil Masterman; the name of the committee comes from the number 20 in Roman numerals: "XX" (i.e. a double cross).

 

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15 hours ago, SimonTV said:

Police arresting protesters at Leeds protest because they disagree with what was being said on the megaphone. Muh section 5 probably, the super catch all for everything they don't like. 

 

Lets see if Buttchute can process this one 

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ID9JlgC5FypH/ 

The filth earning the hate yet again. Cowardly scum.

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19 minutes ago, BossCrow said:

Agreed. It was the same situation in all the Trfalgar Sq protests in 2020. There are UK scientists and doctors speaking out against convid, but how many have been invited to talk by Stand Up X?

 

They are most likely an 'astroturf movement' (fake grassroots movement). We need several organisations organising big protests not the same one every time. Genuine grassroots movements will inevitably be infiltrated and subverted by govt agents, but it's obviously easier for the security services when they themselves set up these organisations in the first place.  

 

Kate Shemirani is clearly there to look eccentric and discredit genuine activists. Same goes for Piers Corbyn in my view.

 

Was thinking about the StandupX logo earlier today and noticed the two Xs-

 

 

orangecorsswitharms.webp.5db3fbde1e208bda6895cdf2bad434cd.webp

 

2 crosses (orange X, and the X formed by the 2 fists) = XX (i.e. double-cross) This code is used by British secret service going back to WW2 - For example apparently it's common that targets of assassination, etc. (eg. George Floyd according to some) will have a $20 note put into their pocket to signify they've been 'double crossed'. (XX being 20 in Roman numerals.)

 

The Double-Cross System or XX System was a World War II counter-espionage and deception operation of the British Security Service (a civilian organisation usually referred to by its cover title MI5). Nazi agents in Britain – real and false – were captured, turned themselves in or simply announced themselves, and were then used by the British to broadcast mainly disinformation to their Nazi controllers. Its operations were overseen by the Twenty Committee under the chairmanship of John Cecil Masterman; the name of the committee comes from the number 20 in Roman numerals: "XX" (i.e. a double cross).

 

 

First thing I thought when I saw that logo was Ingsoc, which is a bit concerning in these Orwellian times. lol

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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

First thing I thought when I saw that logo was Ingsoc, which is a bit concerning in these Orwellian times. lol

Yeah they're very similar. I remember a lot of people using the ingsoc logo as their social media icon at start of convid. I didn't realise where it was from at first despite having read the book, but that was about 25 years ago!

 

The standupx logo is almost like a mix of Ingsoc and BLM. 😄

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I was feeling somewhat uplifted after watching the protests in London and Australia and around the world but after reading a lot of the comments here Im wondering how much people let doubt and mistrust take away from what is happening .I agree that these events may not achieve a lot in the physical sense but they do as others have said boost the morale and make people feel that they are not on their own . I was also sad to see someone say that the  people taking part in the Australia protests has "fallen into a trap"

Then several posters (and some in particular ) cast suspicion on some of the main protagonists including David Icke and you start to wonder whether this is because people have real evidence that they are not genuine or are they  just trying to cause divisiveness with these claims ?

 

Im not saying we shouldn't question peoples motives and connections  but it seems there is a now a question mark over practically everyone involved  in the London protest . I agree that some of the speeches were little more that pep talks ,they said nothing new and didnt suggest any new actions .. it might be helpful if more medical people and scientists  could speak at these events but some ofcourse may not wish to be seen alongside David Icke ,because of his unfortunate past reputation or to be seen aligning with political representatives .

Imagine if Mike Yeadon spoke at a rally ,cant see that happening either . Dr Vernon Coleman spoke well but he is not an expert in the fields of vaccination or immunology .

So if protests are not an effective way of resisting ,apart from non -compliance or violence what else is ?

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8 hours ago, k_j_evans said:

And if so, does that mean that all the people back then with heart disease who took amyl nitrate ended up with AIDS? And if not, why not? Amyl and butyl aren't that different. If sure that poor Africans with AIDS indulged in poppers frequently

come on get up on how 'they' create cases of a disease

 

an aids case is defined differently in different countries

a range of symptoms is easily narrowed and controlled when required and the HIV positive test seals the deal but is not always required

 

this is the same system being used for COVID and sarscov2

 

one symptom listed at UK starts the procedure to classify a COVID19 case

 

weight loss, diarrhoea and fever in some african countries is the symptoms of AIDS additionally is cough and itchy rash (and sexual activity is not a determining factor at all)

no HIV test required

this is not the same in other countries

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Morpheus said:

. What is becoming clearer to me is that these protests are having zero effect and they're also appearing to be controlled opposition.

whats becoming clear to me as more people 'get involved' in the protests is that their expectation of 'leaders' is destroyed

 

all these comments and questions about the organisers , the stage, the permissions and the directionless speeches is because .....

 

they are not ready to think and act for themselves

 

One is ones own leader

i am my own king, i rule my domain, i own my property, i conduct myself,

 

unfortunately alot of people still seek to be led. it is frustrating to them as they have never actually thought for themselves for many many years

 

n.b there are agitators playing on this

 

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Got this sent to me from someone in Germany 

Apparently the german government has orders huge supplies of Iodine tablets!

are they planing a false flag nuclear accident or something and the covid vax is in the tablets!

 

not sire what to make of this but  I’m keeping a open mind on all information

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46 minutes ago, zArk said:

whats becoming clear to me as more people 'get involved' in the protests is that their expectation of 'leaders' is destroyed

 

all these comments and questions about the organisers , the stage, the permissions and the directionless speeches is because .....

 

they are not ready to think and act for themselves

 

One is ones own leader

i am my own king, i rule my domain, i own my property, i conduct myself,

 

unfortunately alot of people still seek to be led. it is frustrating to them as they have never actually thought for themselves for many many years

 

n.b there are agitators playing on this

 

Exactly !

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9 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

They'd be dobbing each other in just for the extra points on the SCS. Sainsbury's will give out Nectar points for ever dissident you grass up. It's England. My old man used to say that if the Germans had crossed the Channel in 1940, there would have been no shortage of collaborators. He had a particular contempt for those he called 'curtain twitchers.' 

It is as you say. But can get much worse.

If they are allowed 1000 points

And they have about 10 left

They get desperate. If they cant catch anyone doing a fault then you must create and report it. Just plant some drugs in someones house or bag

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Its all moving along very fast

We will all be tracked and traced

Digital money only

We will own nothing....renting only

UBIncome

SCScore

Cannot travel anywhere you like

Walking on eggshells

Monthly booster vax for the latest variants

 

Even in hell its not as bad as that kind of life

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16 minutes ago, Jikwan said:

Its all moving along very fast

We will all be tracked and traced

Digital money only

We will own nothing....renting only

UBIncome

SCScore

Cannot travel anywhere you like

Walking on eggshells

Monthly booster vax for the latest variants

 

Even in hell its not as bad as that kind of life

Especially there is no hell 😆

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The masses don’t seem phased about Boris floating the ‘idea’ of tracking and scoring their diets, despite the Telegraph publishing the plans.

 

Another precedent set by Covid. Don’t eat junk food, you’ll get fat and become a burden on our glorious, heroic NHS nurses.

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56 minutes ago, Frankieboy said:


Got this sent to me from someone in Germany 

Apparently the german government has orders huge supplies of Iodine tablets!

are they planing a false flag nuclear accident or something and the covid vax is in the tablets!

 

not sire what to make of this but  I’m keeping a open mind on all information

They mention 3 or 5 proteins in them - it sounds even more dangerous. I wonder how they managed to skip digestive system which is quite good with dealing with foreign objects. Is it also mRNA vaxx? 

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