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3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

UK Conservatives boycott party conference over imperious vaccine passports
https://reclaimthenet.org/uk-conservatives-boycott-party-conference-over-imperious-vaccine-passports/

 

'Key conservative legislators in the UK have confirmed they will not attend the official Conservative Party conference, and instead attend a rival conference in Manchester. The move is in protest of the Conservative-led government’s plans to introduce vaccine passports.'

 

“We can never recover from the pandemic under the shadow of exclusion and authoritarianism. There is a fine line between nudge and coercion and that line has now been crossed with serious consequences.”

Well its a start,they are saying the right things.

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How has Katie Hopkins managed to evade quarantine in Australia and the UK? She was deported 5 days ago back to UK supposedly. But she managed to attend the protest earlier today no problem. Police not interested? Blatant controlled opposition. -

 

Katie Hopkins deported from Australia over quarantine rules

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-57883692

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1 hour ago, TerryH said:

The miners did fight though and they are not forgotten by many of us.

They lost because the government and the media closed ranks and made them villains

This time around we might be spread over a wider area but we are bound by a common loyalty to a cause and that could be our advantage. 

I went to a stand in the park and there wasnt many of us but we were all very different in every way possible.

I am sure it is a big worry to them that they do not have an easily defined target

 

This is a good documentary to show any normie football fans who still trust the government. It shows how Hillsborough disaster was deliberately engineered to happen by Thatcher govt and how Thatcher's friends profited massively from the situation.

 

Your mention of the miners strike reminded me- same police force sent in to deal with the miners were in charge at Hillsborough I think (South Yorkshire Police)-

 

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2 hours ago, Dazzer said:

Check this cunt out... How dare he use the word 'cower' when that's all these fuckers have done for the last 18 months.

 

 

🤦‍♂️ Of course he thanks vaccines, he has to. Otherwise his masters will take him out. 

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12 minutes ago, BossCrow said:

How has Katie Hopkins managed to evade quarantine in Australia and the UK? She was deported 5 days ago back to UK supposedly. But she managed to attend the protest earlier today no problem. Police not interested? Blatant controlled opposition. -

 

Katie Hopkins deported from Australia over quarantine rules

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-57883692

 

I think that was some stunt to make the right look bad. The annoying thing is plenty on the right think she is a twat the same way the left do.

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10 hours ago, Morpheus said:

Exactly, so we've now got to consider that organisers of these protests/rallies whatever you want to call them are co-opted/gatekeepers/controlled opposition. 

 

Unfortunately, it's going to take a grass roots leader, a nobody, no name individual with big fuckin balls. Is he coming? We'll find out. 

 

 

I think it is possible that people do not agree with mainstream and yet are somehow involved with certain acquaintances. Whether or not David Kurtan is controlled opposition...does not mean that the others there are aware. Bottom line for me is that people gathered en masse and showed cohesion. It brings out those who are on our side of truth. The fact that some rats may be coming along for the ride doesn't mean a fail...after all rats are always dealt with and same will be so for any involved in the rallies...let time sift them out. ( the wheat from the chaff)

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Just now, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I think that was some stunt to make the right look bad. The annoying thing is plenty on the right think she is a twat the same way the left do.

Agreed. There's plenty of others like her as well.

 

Also I think I was wrong about quarantining once back in the UK, looks like you can get through with negative test on arrival from Australia.

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48 minutes ago, ar55 said:

It’s not the elite protests should be targeting - it’s the masses.

 

The elite need the masses on side; protests challenge the elites’ narrative.

 

If they weren’t fussed about protests they’d allow the press to report on them.

Yes. You can look at it two ways....

 

Those protests mentioned above (miners, poll tax, iraq war) maybe didn't stop the thing happening away.

 

But in each of those cases it became very clear, and has passed down as accepted wisdom, that the elites were on the "bad" side in the battle. That the miners were treated badly and brutally, that their cause was a just one. That the poll tax was a step too far (regardless of what happened later in the 90s) and it is still cited as the tipping point of Thatcherism (within the year, she was out). (Of course there's also the counterpoint argument that the Poll Tax riots made the Police, the Gov't and the media toughen up in their approach to making sure the public wouldn't be allowed to protest so strongly again, but anyways).

 

And finally that the Iraq war was the wrong thing, the sexed-up dossier, the Kelly "suicide", the way the Middle East has become what it is...it all fed into the growing realisation by the public that Blair was duping them, and had duped them for years. 

 

Sure, none of these situations actually prevented anything, but they altered and cemented perceptions among the masses that continue now and will be passed down in the future.  And that is perhaps what needs to be done now. The jabbed probably can't be saved, nor can the damage to society thus far. But we can make sure that the future looks back at this period and knows, believes, and accepts that what's being done is wrong and should not have happened.

 

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1 minute ago, BossCrow said:

Agreed. There's plenty of others like her as well.

 

Also I think I was wrong about quarantining once back in the UK, looks like you can get through with negative test on arrival from Australia.

 

Yeah. Many of the left will see that and won't want to be compared with Hopkins for doing similar things that make them look bad, and the same with the right. It's a great way to scare people in my opinion.

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12 minutes ago, BossCrow said:

This is a good documentary to show any normie football fans who still trust the government. It shows how Hillsborough disaster was deliberately engineered to happen by Thatcher govt and how Thatcher's friends profited massively from the situation.

 

Your mention of the miners strike reminded me- same police force sent in to deal with the miners were in charge at Hillsborough I think (South Yorkshire Police)-

 

 

This is another case of how, eventually - with a lot of struggle, suffering and battles against the system - the truth can and will be shown, and accepted by the masses. I would very much doubt anybody now believes the story the police tried to present as facts re: Hillsborough. The extent of the cover-up, the lies, the deliberate shaming and maiming of a section of society held in contempt by the elites....it is no longer wild conspiracies. 

 

All of that feeds into how the police are perceived in today's society. It just takes a lot to expose it and make it palatable and understandable to the public.

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9 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Yes. You can look at it two ways....

 

Those protests mentioned above (miners, poll tax, iraq war) maybe didn't stop the thing happening away.

 

But in each of those cases it became very clear, and has passed down as accepted wisdom, that the elites were on the "bad" side in the battle. That the miners were treated badly and brutally, that their cause was a just one. That the poll tax was a step too far (regardless of what happened later in the 90s) and it is still cited as the tipping point of Thatcherism (within the year, she was out). (Of course there's also the counterpoint argument that the Poll Tax riots made the Police, the Gov't and the media toughen up in their approach to making sure the public wouldn't be allowed to protest so strongly again, but anyways).

 

And finally that the Iraq war was the wrong thing, the sexed-up dossier, the Kelly "suicide", the way the Middle East has become what it is...it all fed into the growing realisation by the public that Blair was duping them, and had duped them for years. 

 

Sure, none of these situations actually prevented anything, but they altered and cemented perceptions among the masses that continue now and will be passed down in the future.  And that is perhaps what needs to be done now. The jabbed probably can't be saved, nor can the damage to society thus far. But we can make sure that the future looks back at this period and knows, believes, and accepts that what's being done is wrong and should not have happened.

 

None of those events needed the public’s compliance, though.

 

You can drop bombs on Iraq with zero public agreement; you can’t continue the Covid hoax with zero public agreement.


 

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3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Yeah. Many of the left will see that and won't want to be compared with Hopkins for doing similar things that make them look bad, and the same with the right. It's a great way to scare people in my opinion.

Slightly off-topic, but in the same way, Jeremy Clarkson was used to discredit man-made climate change/global warming deniers. He was pretty much the only one on the BBC who was allowed to air that viewpoint. the likes of Johnny Ball and David Bellamy were never employed again after sharing similar views.

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3 minutes ago, ar55 said:

None of those events needed the public’s compliance, though.

 

You can drop bombs on Iraq with zero public agreement; you can’t continue the Covid hoax with zero public agreement.


 

Exactly. Changing the public perception of the con at play here could actually slow its progress. Which is why it's perhaps important to continue trying to do so.

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8 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

 

This is another case of how, eventually - with a lot of struggle, suffering and battles against the system - the truth can and will be shown, and accepted by the masses. I would very much doubt anybody now believes the story the police tried to present as facts re: Hillsborough. The extent of the cover-up, the lies, the deliberate shaming and maiming of a section of society held in contempt by the elites....it is no longer wild conspiracies. 

 

All of that feeds into how the police are perceived in today's society. It just takes a lot to expose it and make it palatable and understandable to the public.

I knew something was very fishy about Hillsborough when I saw the full live broadcast footage a few years back and about 10 mins after the game was stopped John Motson says 'I'm just getting a report in my ear that Liverpool fans forcing their way into the stadium apparently caused this situation'. (paraphrasing)

 

These sorts of events nearly always follow the same pattern; covered up for 30 years or more then blame a scapegoat or two who gets a slap on the wrist as they're so old they won't be imprisoned (and the scapegoat probably wasn't the actual perpertrator anyway). Same with the British Army soldiers accused of atrocities during the troubles, etc. It's also useful if the govt and media can drag up these old miscarriages of justice to distract the public from what's happening today.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Who the fuck is Alice, and why does she need to tell the world this?

 

(Rhetorical question, obvs. - we know the agenda).

 

In a normal world, she would be locked away as mentally ill.

 

 

Looks like she has something to do with labour

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