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8 hours ago, Ed8 said:

Source? Fact-checkers says its fake:

https://www.mythdetector.ge/en/myth/what-written-jacques-attalis-book-verbatim-and-who-fabricated-french-politicians-quote

“Verbatim” is a memoir book by Jacques Attali, a French politician and counselor to President François Mitterrand from 1981 to 1991. The book reproduces Attali’s memories, dialogues and routine activities. According to the French fact-checking organization AFP Factual, its verification team failed to find the quote in the book from the 1980s. The publisher of the work in France sent a copy of the interview with Jacques Attali in the book, where the viral text does not appear. Moreover, it found no mention of a pandemic in the book.

Factcheckers unfortunately missed this article then!!!!

 

https://blogs.lexpress.fr/attali/2009/05/03/changer_par_precaution/

 

In original French:

 

https://blogs.lexpress.fr/attali/2009/05/03/changer_par_precaution/

 

https://solidariteetprogres.fr/actualites-001/attali-une-petite-pandemie.html

 

Another of his books which is quite interesting is "Who will rule the world?" on Amazon you can read the first chapter.

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Pina Colada said:

Factcheckers unfortunately missed this article then!!!!

 

https://blogs.lexpress.fr/attali/2009/05/03/changer_par_precaution/

 

In original French:

 

https://blogs.lexpress.fr/attali/2009/05/03/changer_par_precaution/

 

https://solidariteetprogres.fr/actualites-001/attali-une-petite-pandemie.html

 

Another of his books which is quite interesting is "Who will rule the world?" on Amazon you can read the first chapter.

 

 

 

 

 

Without saying too much, the guy has made quite a few "predictions" over the years that have come true. Definitely a guy worth digging into, and the 'France 2022' program.

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A Scottish Government medical advisor confirmed yesterday that lockdown will resume in the coming weeks.

 

Professor Devi Sridhar said: "If we look at the government's language - it's kind of, let's open now, allow people a bit of normality, and then get ready to put back in restrictions in several weeks."

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19 minutes ago, Pina Colada said:

Factcheckers unfortunately missed this article then!!!!

 

https://blogs.lexpress.fr/attali/2009/05/03/changer_par_precaution/

 

In original French:

 

https://blogs.lexpress.fr/attali/2009/05/03/changer_par_precaution/

 

https://solidariteetprogres.fr/actualites-001/attali-une-petite-pandemie.html

 

Another of his books which is quite interesting is "Who will rule the world?" on Amazon you can read the first chapter.

 

 

 

 

Which passage are you referring to? I can see no reference to depopulation 

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37 minutes ago, Dazzer said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57952516

 

Have a look at the video at the bottom of the page in this article, glad to see the bbc are being their unbiased self again.

 

What I can't understand about these idiots is this: What do they hope to achieve by locking down? Do they think the 'delta' is just going to disappear? And what about the next 30 variants that are going to be announced over the next few years to keep everybody in this perpetual cycle? 

It's not about a virus and never was.

 

If you are focusing on it being about a virus, or even for that matter a vaccine, you're going to miss the real shitshow.

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I only said it to see if you still had a big up your arse about me.... Want to explain why your still coming for me.... Douch!

 

His speech wasn't that fascist, Bidens are worse but still no forced vaccinations and people have the right not to do business with you.

 

Fyi its Bolshevik... an educated person would know that 😂

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5 minutes ago, Ed8 said:

Which passage are you referring to? I can see no reference to depopulation 

You are missing the point.

 

According to the original article:

 

According to the video, Jacques Attali wrote in 2010: “In order to establish New World Order, we need an important pandemic.”

 

What I am saying is that Jacques Attali indeed does allude to this many times, including in the sources I have quoted.

« L’Histoire nous apprend que l’humanité n’évolue significativement que lorsqu’elle a vraiment peur : elle met alors d’abord en place des mécanismes de défense ; parfois intolérables (des boucs émissaires et des totalitarismes) ; parfois futiles (de la distraction) ; parfois efficaces (des thérapeutiques, écartant si nécessaire tous les principes moraux antérieurs). Puis, une fois la crise passée, elle transforme ces mécanismes pour les rendre compatibles avec la liberté individuelle et les inscrire dans une politique de santé démocratique. »

Pour Attali, « La pandémie qui commence pourrait déclencher une de ces peurs structurantes », car elle fera surgir, « mieux qu’aucun discours humanitaire ou écologique, la prise de conscience de la nécessité d’un altruisme, au moins intéressé. »

 

Argue semantics if you like.

 

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4 minutes ago, Prometheus said:

I only said it to see if you still had a big up your arse about me.... Want to explain why your still coming for me.... Douch!

 

His speech wasn't that fascist, Bidens are worse but still no forced vaccinations and people have the right not to do business with you.

 

Nazis are third positionists that are generally anti-Capitalist and anti-Communist. Does that sound like the great reset gang? You can debate me with without the ad-homs, but if not then no worries.

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Just now, Pina Colada said:

You are missing the point.

 

According to the original article:

 

According to the video, Jacques Attali wrote in 2010: “In order to establish New World Order, we need an important pandemic.”

 

What I am saying is that Jacques Attali indeed does allude to this many times, including in the sources I have quoted.

« L’Histoire nous apprend que l’humanité n’évolue significativement que lorsqu’elle a vraiment peur : elle met alors d’abord en place des mécanismes de défense ; parfois intolérables (des boucs émissaires et des totalitarismes) ; parfois futiles (de la distraction) ; parfois efficaces (des thérapeutiques, écartant si nécessaire tous les principes moraux antérieurs). Puis, une fois la crise passée, elle transforme ces mécanismes pour les rendre compatibles avec la liberté individuelle et les inscrire dans une politique de santé démocratique. »

Pour Attali, « La pandémie qui commence pourrait déclencher une de ces peurs structurantes », car elle fera surgir, « mieux qu’aucun discours humanitaire ou écologique, la prise de conscience de la nécessité d’un altruisme, au moins intéressé. »

 

Argue semantics if you like.

 

There's no semantics about it. Look at the original quote Ziggy posted, and then look at the quote you've posted. 

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Gareth Southgate now coming out urging young people to get the jab.

 

Rather ironic, given - as confirmed by the Daily Mail two days ago - the bulk of his players (possibly all) are ‘reluctant’ to get it.

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Who's debating, I'm just talking shit on a forum, you the one who's thirsty taking this serious like you debating people, go bate yourself..... Ad hom, what a douch

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Who's debating, I'm just talking shit on a forum, you the one who's thirsty taking this serious like you debating people, go bate yourself.

 

You're the one that slided this thread in the past with coomer posts, and you want to talk to me about masturbation?

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What do we think all those think tanks, builderbergers and liberal progressives where working towards. This New World Order was planned or even its inception was like 1776.

 

This is Zion, its been a long time coming, its ruling the world is people and resources entirely and its been a plan since the Roman Empire, since Alexander I mean this is Ancient and the biggest player had undoubtedly been the Church of Rome and their deadly Jesuit agents.

 

Oh the great divide is here and we've all made our beds.

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2 minutes ago, Pina Colada said:

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I think a lot of people "on our side" suffer from the same psychological biases and inability to think critically as the sheep following orders. They just got lucky being on the right side this time because they have an inclination to distrust authority. 

 

Bizarre to watch people on both sides glaze over or get defensive when facts are placed right in front of them.

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