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2 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

Pathetic.

Isn't it just. The men, women and children that fought for us and here we are.  No fight in the majorities bellies, frightened of a virus. Sad times but I still strive to be optimistic. I'm not afraid of death myself (in fact I'd welcome it if it wasn't for my dogs). 

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3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Of course, but woke Capital is still supporting those woke idiots.

 

People often make a fair point about Wall Street financing National Socialists, but they also financed the Soviets, which should be more alarming as they're supposed to be Commies that hate Capitalists.

 

Anyway, I'm getting too off-topic. My apologies.

 

You make very good points 👍

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Poll: Should anti-vaxxers who end up in ICU with Covid pay their own medical bills?

SPAIN is engrossed in a heated debate over whether hospitalised Covid patients should be charged for their treatment if they refused the vaccine. Express.co.uk wants to know whether you think ICU Covid patients should be forced to pay for their NHS treatment if they refused the vaccine. Let us know by voting in our poll and leaving a comment.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1465292/Covid-vaccine-anti-vaxxers-nhs-treatment-hospitals-medical-bills-poll

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10 minutes ago, Itsa said:

Poll: Should anti-vaxxers who end up in ICU with Covid pay their own medical bills?

SPAIN is engrossed in a heated debate over whether hospitalised Covid patients should be charged for their treatment if they refused the vaccine. Express.co.uk wants to know whether you think ICU Covid patients should be forced to pay for their NHS treatment if they refused the vaccine. Let us know by voting in our poll and leaving a comment.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1465292/Covid-vaccine-anti-vaxxers-nhs-treatment-hospitals-medical-bills-poll

 

The same argument they use for smokers not getting private health insurance, etc.

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20 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

Or you could itch her arse and show her this video:

 

 

I hear ya but there is no way she or others will accept opposing views or info (My Dad of 75 yrs n Sister of 52yrs both doubled but we do respect each others choices) I think some of my friends may have doubts about the jab but they'd rather die than except they made a mistake and were hasty. I can see it in their eyes, they look down at the floor when the topic comes up. If I were in their shoes, I'd likely do the same. I defend myself vehemently. 

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3 minutes ago, BruiseL said:

I hear ya but there is no way she or others will accept opposing views or info (My Dad of 75 yrs n Sister of 52yrs both doubled but we do respect each others choices) I think some of my friends may have doubts about the jab but they'd rather die than except they made a mistake and were hasty. I can see it in their eyes, they look down at the floor when the topic comes up. If I were in their shoes, I'd likely do the same. I defend myself vehemently. 

 

At this point, no one can be convinced. The best you can do is annoy them and take pleasure in watching them squirm a little.

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31 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

Or you could itch her arse and show her this video:

 

 

I hear ya. Wrote a reply but drunk fingers must have got the better of... C'est la vie. 

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Just now, DarianF said:

 

At this point, no one can be convinced. The best you can do is annoy them and take pleasure in watching them squirm a little.

Oh annoying is my forte where this shit storm is concered. I'll likely get barred, been barred before so not worried. Thank you for your time in replying to me. 

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Just now, BruiseL said:

Oh annoying is my forte where this shit storm is concered. I'll likely get barred, been barred before so not worried. Thank you for your time in replying to me. 

 

Nice to see you here. Take care.

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59 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

the Great Reset folks do talk like they're trying mix Capitalism with Marxian ideology.

 

Stakeholder-Capitalism is the term they use.

 

A stakeholder is a party that has an interest in a company and can either affect or be affected by the business. The primary stakeholders in a typical corporation are its investors, employees, customers, and suppliers.

 

Global State, Blackrock and Vanguard.

 

So literally Fascistic Communism with a fluffy name.  China. And now being openly spoken about by the White House Press Commissar Suckie.

 

Thanks to the endless social conditioning of Hitler Man Bad, most people automatically think of authoritarian Nazi SS Jackboots and the inverted Swastika when they hear the word Fascism. However it was Mussolini who coined the term in 1919, adopting the ancient Roman fasces as his symbol. This was a bundle of rods and a single axe which were carried as a symbol of magisterial and priestly authority in ancient Rome. 

Roman Lictor Carrying Fasces (by Cesare Vercellio, Public Domain)

Italian Fascism was heavily focused on the complete merger of the Nation State and Corporations.. as we are also seeing coming out from behind the shadows in the West.

Why does America have fasces as a political symbol? - Quora

The US house of representatives have Fasces hanging behind the speaker. Thereby the house is inherently crypto-fascist and all its members are crypto-fascists.

 

The widescale implementation of this medical experiment of the human population and the relentless drive for everyone to "do their bit" is pure Communitarianism, the opposite of rugged individualism and freedom/liberty that the West, especially the US ,has prided itself on but is very much akin to the Orient Mindset.

 

Communitarianism is a philosophy that emphasizes the connection between the individual and the community. Its overriding philosophy is based upon the belief that a person's social identity and personality are largely molded by community relationships, with a smaller degree of development being placed on individualism.

 

 

What is the difference between communitarianism and utilitarianism?
is that utilitarianism is (philosophy) a system of ethics based on the premise that something's value may be measured by its usefulness while communitarianism is (ethics) the group of doctrines that oppose excessive individualism in favour of a more community-based approach.
 
Throw in tens of thousands of satellites orbiting the planet and 5+G towers every few blocks and some food shortages...... our technocratic gulag is ready to go live.

 

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29 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

egrtghrthrthr.jpg

 

Given what we're seeing happen today, it would be understandable if people start to think the official narrative about the fall of Rome was BS too.

 

 

Western Rome actually began to go tits up after Marcus Aurelius died in 180CE - the last of the 5 good Emperors (think Hadrian) - and his son Commodus took the throne and proceeded to drive the prosperous, somewhat stable Empire into the ground before he was strangled in 192. In Commodus'  defence he was the only child since Caesar Augustus started the Imperial period in 27BC to be born an actual High Prince - the only one to be "Born to the Purple" - so he was probably a tad spoiled. lol

 

Add some Goths, civil wars, Christianity and a brand new beautiful city that would last another 1000 years and Western Rome "fell" in 476. We should be so lucky to have almost 300 years of decline... Our civilisation is falling faster than the Twin Towers!

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2 hours ago, DarianF said:

Hey everyone, get ready for this... 🤣🤣

 

Just when you thought they couldn't get more desperate to explain away the holes in their official bullshit clownshow, they give us this masterpiece:

 

COVID: the reason cases are rising among the double vaccinated – it’s not because vaccines aren’t working

https://theconversation.com/covid-the-reason-cases-are-rising-among-the-double-vaccinated-its-not-because-vaccines-arent-working-164797

 

😂 I'm crying here.

 

I mean the headline for once states the truth. (except those arent vaccines, but just lets get along with it for this one)

 

If people get sick or die, that means these "vaccines" are working. Indeed.

 

If people would actually realize what sick psycopaths sit at the top and those who follow any orders because they couldnt care less about the mate next to them or simply would do everything for money, they would hang themself or them on the spot.

Seriously they have no clue with what we are dealing with here.

 

But i repeat myself. The idea alone that these "elite" care for you is a so abnormally out of this world mindset, its beyond words.

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38 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

 

Stakeholder-Capitalism is the term they use.

 

A stakeholder is a party that has an interest in a company and can either affect or be affected by the business. The primary stakeholders in a typical corporation are its investors, employees, customers, and suppliers.

 

Global State, Blackrock and Vanguard.

 

So literally Fascistic Communism with a fluffy name.  China. And now being openly spoken about by the White House Press Commissar Suckie.

 

Thanks to the endless social conditioning of Hitler Man Bad, most people automatically think of authoritarian Nazi SS Jackboots and the inverted Swastika when they hear the word Fascism. However it was Mussolini who coined the term in 1919, adopting the ancient Roman fasces as his symbol. This was a bundle of rods and a single axe which were carried as a symbol of magisterial and priestly authority in ancient Rome. 

Roman Lictor Carrying Fasces (by Cesare Vercellio, Public Domain)

Italian Fascism was heavily focused on the complete merger of the Nation State and Corporations.. as we are also seeing coming out from behind the shadows in the West.

Why does America have fasces as a political symbol? - Quora

The US house of representatives have Fasces hanging behind the speaker. Thereby the house is inherently crypto-fascist and all its members are crypto-fascists.

 

The widescale implementation of this medical experiment of the human population and the relentless drive for everyone to "do their bit" is pure Communitarianism, the opposite of rugged individualism and freedom/liberty that the West, especially the US ,has prided itself on but is very much akin to the Orient Mindset.

 

Communitarianism is a philosophy that emphasizes the connection between the individual and the community. Its overriding philosophy is based upon the belief that a person's social identity and personality are largely molded by community relationships, with a smaller degree of development being placed on individualism.

 

 

What is the difference between communitarianism and utilitarianism?
is that utilitarianism is (philosophy) a system of ethics based on the premise that something's value may be measured by its usefulness while communitarianism is (ethics) the group of doctrines that oppose excessive individualism in favour of a more community-based approach.
 
Throw in tens of thousands of satellites orbiting the planet and 5+G towers every few blocks and some food shortages...... our technocratic gulag is ready to go live.

 

 

Yeah, I'm sure you have noticed how the Great Reset gang talk about equality of outcome too. Sounds very Marxian, just with the backing of international financiers.

 

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And if you look up the Austrian painter's definition of non-Marxian Socialism, it sounds nothing like the International Socialism that we're getting.

 

And obviously it seems silly, at least in my eyes, to call politicians like Bojo Nazis, considering his heritage.

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5 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

 

Western Rome actually began to go tits up after Marcus Aurelius died in 180CE - the last of the 5 good Emperors (think Hadrian) - and his son Commodus took the throne and proceeded to drive the prosperous, somewhat stable Empire into the ground before he was strangled in 192. In Commodus'  defence he was the only child since Caesar Augustus started the Imperial period in 27BC to be born an actual High Prince - the only one to be "Born to the Purple" - so he was probably a tad spoiled. lol

 

Add some Goths, civil wars, Christianity and a brand new beautiful city that would last another 1000 years and Western Rome "fell" in 476. We should be so lucky to have almost 300 years of decline... Our civilisation is falling faster than the Twin Towers!

 

My point was that I'm not sure what to believe anymore, considering the lies today, and how much the elites hate the West/Rome, or Edom as they call it.

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2 hours ago, DarianF said:

Just doing some casual light reading:

 

 

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Capillary leak syndrome

Very rare cases of capillary leak syndrome (CLS) have been reported in the first days after vaccination with COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca. A history of CLS was apparent in some of these cases. Fatal outcome has been reported. CLS is a rare disorder characterised by acute episodes of oedema mainly affecting the limbs, hypotension, haemoconcentration and hypoalbuminaemia. Patients with an acute episode of CLS following vaccination require prompt recognition and  treatment. Intensive support therapy is usually warranted. Individuals with a known history of CLS should not be vaccinated with this vaccine (see Section 4.3 Contraindications).

 

[TGA, p. 4 | https://www.ebs.tga.gov.au/ebs/picmi/picmirepository.nsf/pdf?OpenAgent&id=CP-2021-PI-01194-1&d=20210722172310101 ]

 

DarianF, if you find a solution to this problem, please let me know.

I am seeing people with many bruises in unlikely places.

 

How am I going to explain this to a doctor? I haven't even been vaccinated. It would be beyond his comprehension...

More importantly, can it be reversed or do I have this permanently? 😔

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2 minutes ago, elongated1 said:

I am seeing people with many bruises in unlikely places.

 

And hideous rashes and blotches covering their whole arms, and who knows elsewhere. I work in a shop so get to see all the zombies. Could be sun exposure i guess. Just looks way weirder.

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6 minutes ago, spideysensei said:

 

And hideous rashes and blotches covering their whole arms, and who knows elsewhere. I work in a shop so get to see all the zombies. Could be sun exposure i guess. Just looks way weirder.

 

Could be EMF. Perhaps they sit around a compter a lot or around mobile phone; in particular, overnight ? And then, there are swabs with EO on the tips. Heaven knows what that does to the body. Worth investigating perhaps, IMO

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