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21 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Great video to share.

 

Dominic Raab, the Foreign Secretary appeared on Sky News today with the dreadful Kay Burley.

 

He said "The false-positive rate is very high, so only 7% of tests will be successful in identifying those that have the virus!" end quote.

 

And the witch Kay Burley just sat there, not saying a dickie bird.

 

 

 

He also said recently when all the George Floyd stuff kicked off that he wouldn't take the knee. If he can survive for a bit in politics I'm hopeful he will be a sane voice in there. Maybe.

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Belgium has stopped using the PCR test 😄 They will use hospitalisations instead.

 

Julia Hartley-Brewer was on fire this morning on Talk Radio. Watch from 2hrs 36 min ish when she was talking about the PCR test false positive rate and other false positive tests. She talks to a statistician to get the figures right. Her whole show was brilliant today, she is doing some real journalism. 

 

 

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From Lockdowns to "The Great Reset"
https://mises.org/wire/lockdowns-great-reset

 

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This coming technocracy involves close cooperation between the heads of the digital industry and of governments. With programs such as guaranteed minimum income and healthcare for all, the new kind of governance combines strict societal control with the promise of comprehensive social justice.

 

The truth, however, is that this new world order of digital tyranny comes with a comprehensive social credit system. The People’s Republic of China is the pioneer of this method of surveillance and control of individuals, corporations, and sociopolitical entities.

 

For the individual, one’s identity is reduced to an app or chip that registers almost any personal activity. In order to gain a few individual rights, and be it only to travel to a certain place, a person must balance such apparent privileges with his submission to a web of regulations that define in detail what is “good behavior” and deemed as beneficial to humankind and the environment. For example, during a pandemic, this sort of control would extend from the obligation of wearing a mask and practicing social distancing to having specific vaccinations in order to apply for a job or to travel.

 

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The basic idea of the Great Reset is the same principle that guided the radical transformations from the French to the Russian and Chinese Revolutions. It is the idea of constructivist rationalism incorporated in the state. But projects like the Great Reset leave unanswered the question of who rules the state. The state itself does not rule. It is an instrument of power. It is not the abstract state that decides, but the leaders of specific political parties and of certain social groups.

 

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On 9/14/2020 at 4:30 PM, Mr H said:

 

Thank you.

 

 

howd it go?

my experience with the Local MP , labour, is labour are 100% behind all restrictions, masks, lockdown and actually sounded more militant than the Tories. Labour is arguing the Tories ruined everythign by acting too slow

 

so .... as most on here have recognised , the plandemic is cross-party. the political system is completely controlled and offers no remedy.

n.b this plandemic is beyond Bill Gates this is a changing of ages and governs all politics, law, business and religion

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7 hours ago, Alnitak said:

Belgium has stopped using the PCR test 😄 They will use hospitalisations instead.

 

Julia Hartley-Brewer was on fire this morning on Talk Radio. Watch from 2hrs 36 min ish when she was talking about the PCR test false positive rate and other false positive tests. She talks to a statistician to get the figures right. Her whole show was brilliant today, she is doing some real journalism. 

 

steady alnitak, talkradio is making some good sounds granted but talkradio is now using the words

disease

wearing a mask is ok to get through it

and there is a constant undertone of

"people die everyday, some will die, the economy is more important"

 

there is no chance of a Kaufman or del bigtree interview

 

to repeat, its nice on the ears but they are a licensed and regulated service provider

 

N.B still waiting for any 'Dr Bergman' style health program on any tv or radio channel. The odd mention of vit C, D and zinc.

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10 hours ago, serpentine said:

 

People engaged in singing are involved in an ancient act of bonding and that in lieu of a damning silence singing together at the police is always better than individual shouts.

 

Singing is banned at my sister's church, which defeats the whole purpose!

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i was at the school gates and one of the parents i know said to me in front of people

"you're into david icke and conspiracy theories". i'm like wtf standing there wearing my Qanon cap

i just replied "and you've took part in at least 5 conspiracies in the last 6 months"

this was 2 minutes after someone was showing their track and trace app and i'm like "you wont track me on my old nokia"

 

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10 hours ago, banjo dog said:

Saw an interview this morning on B.B.C with some one at a lower league football club which is already struggling. Interviewer said at the end fans can pay £10 to stream games live when the season starts and watch at home. This got me thinking more about children being taught via zoom etc at home. How long before schools are no longer needed and teachers replaced by A.I. Sports venues as we know them will also change beyond all recognition. If you want to you can bet on gambling web sites 24/7, virtual grey hound racing, its what some call cartoon racing. Football teams using virtual reality players, virtual reality racing drivers. Sounds a bit sci-fi which could easily become reality with the internet of ALL things. Tesco trialling deliveries by drone in Ireland. I used to be a Tesco delivery driver. During induction talk we were told that the day will come when drivers will not be needed. Its all heading in one direction. Stay at home to save lives, but then you don't need to go out any where. Food delivered, exercise in the comfort of your own home (seen the studio cycling adverts?). Want to go on holiday just cover your eyes with this and you are transported where ever you want to go. No work, no problem the government will give you just enough money to keep your self alive. You will comply. Exactly what D.I has been talking about for 30 years. David Icke, isn't he the nutter who claimed to be the son of god and thinks the queen is a lizard? FOR FUCKS SAKE PEOPLE WAKE UP. Trouble is, saying things on this forum like that is preaching to the converted. We live in hope and while you have hope you potentially have every thing.

 

Elon Musk goes further, he reckons virtual reality will be so advanced it will be impossible to tell the difference been reality and the virtual world and we will all live in a simulation. I don't believe that because I have five senses, that tell me life is real, unless his neural implant blocks them. Which I won't be getting!

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44 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

Elon Musk goes further, he reckons virtual reality will be so advanced it will be impossible to tell the difference been reality and the virtual world and we will all live in a simulation. I don't believe that because I have five senses, that tell me life is real, unless his neural implant blocks them. Which I won't be getting!

And when you look around- at the people - I reckon like 80% would go for it as long as it was worth likes and shares on social media they would jump in the pods. It's scary.

 

My daughter though she reminds me to keep fighting shes 10 and not into electronics she absolutely loves the great outdoors and her friends. Shes been sent home from school as her teacher tested positive. She is a wreck. Hates being stuck at home and having to miss football practice and matches as well as school. Loads of schools round here have kids home again now. It really is utterly shit for them.

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Meanwhile in Scotland the Gulag, a recipe for disaster!

 

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/sep/24/thousands-of-students-in-isolation-at-20-uk-universities

 

Hundreds of thousands of students in Scotland have been banned from socialising and going to bars as coronavirus cases spread to more than 20 universities across the UK.

 

In a set of rules agreed by Scottish university leaders, students across the country were told they will not be allowed to socialise outside their households. They were also told to avoid bars, pubs and other venues completely this weekend.

 

The new rules include the adoption of a “yellow card/red card” disciplinary system which could lead to students losing their places, while police will help tackle rule-breaking.

 

“All universities will make absolutely clear to students that there must be no parties, and no socialising outside their households… Breaches will not be tolerated,” Universities Scotland said after a meeting with the higher education minister, Richard Lochhead. Across Scotland, up to six people from two households are allowed to gather in bars, restaurants or outdoors.

 

It comes after thousands of students UK-wide were forced to go into isolation within days of campuses reopening, as ministers refused to rule out keeping them away from home over Christmas to stop the spread of Covid-19.

 

Scotland, which is home to about 300,000 students in higher and further education, is particularly affected as the academic year starts earlier than in England and Wales. An outbreak of more than 100 confirmed cases at the University of Glasgow led to at least 600 students being told to self-isolate on Wednesday night.

 

The outbreak is said to have originated from socialising during the city’s freshers’ week starting on 12 September. Parents complained about a lack of support for their children, including first-year students living away from home for the first time.

 

The president of NUS Scotland, Matt Crilly, condemned the announcement, saying that it showed “a complete disregard for students’ mental health and wellbeing”.

 

Crilly said: “Tonight’s announcement by Universities Scotland and endorsed by the Scottish government unfairly blames students for the spread of coronavirus and takes the unjustified step of applying different rules to students over and above the rest of the adult population.”

 

Scotland’s University and College Union official Mary Senior said it was “astonishing” that students were being blamed for spreading the virus, and that universities should instead switch to online teaching.

 

“That is what the Scottish government should be introducing, not threatening students with red cards and banning them from going out,” Senior said.

 

Matt Hancock said he is not ruling out the prospect of asking students to stay on campus over Christmas, amid coronavirus clusters in university halls.

 

"The important thing is in the short-term, students once they've gone to university should stay at university so as not to spread the disease."

 

In Dundee, Abertay University, 500 students were asked to self-isolate this week in student accommodation where three people have tested (false) positive.

 

Scotland's national clinical director Professor Jason Leitch warned he is "very concerned" at the situation. "We need to be very, very careful. Even though most of those cases will not get serious illness, some of them will and some of them will potentially spread it to the community."

 

Glasgow university tweeted that a mobile testing centre will be set up at Murano residence and students affected are being supported with food and other supplies.

 

Greg Fell, director of public health for Sheffield, told Times Radio: "Clearly there are going to be times when students do legitimately need to go home for all sorts of reasons. But the recommendation is to stay in place, basically."

 

The University and College Union said the UK Government must listen to the science, look at the experiences from other countries and tell universities to make online learning their default position immediately.

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25 minutes ago, Velma said:

Meanwhile in Scotland the Gulag, a recipe for disaster!

 

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/sep/24/thousands-of-students-in-isolation-at-20-uk-universities

 

Hundreds of thousands of students in Scotland have been banned from socialising and going to bars as coronavirus cases spread to more than 20 universities across the UK.

 

In a set of rules agreed by Scottish university leaders, students across the country were told they will not be allowed to socialise outside their households. They were also told to avoid bars, pubs and other venues completely this weekend.

 

The new rules include the adoption of a “yellow card/red card” disciplinary system which could lead to students losing their places, while police will help tackle rule-breaking.

 

“All universities will make absolutely clear to students that there must be no parties, and no socialising outside their households… Breaches will not be tolerated,” Universities Scotland said after a meeting with the higher education minister, Richard Lochhead. Across Scotland, up to six people from two households are allowed to gather in bars, restaurants or outdoors.

 

It comes after thousands of students UK-wide were forced to go into isolation within days of campuses reopening, as ministers refused to rule out keeping them away from home over Christmas to stop the spread of Covid-19.

 

Scotland, which is home to about 300,000 students in higher and further education, is particularly affected as the academic year starts earlier than in England and Wales. An outbreak of more than 100 confirmed cases at the University of Glasgow led to at least 600 students being told to self-isolate on Wednesday night.

 

The outbreak is said to have originated from socialising during the city’s freshers’ week starting on 12 September. Parents complained about a lack of support for their children, including first-year students living away from home for the first time.

 

The president of NUS Scotland, Matt Crilly, condemned the announcement, saying that it showed “a complete disregard for students’ mental health and wellbeing”.

 

Crilly said: “Tonight’s announcement by Universities Scotland and endorsed by the Scottish government unfairly blames students for the spread of coronavirus and takes the unjustified step of applying different rules to students over and above the rest of the adult population.”

 

Scotland’s University and College Union official Mary Senior said it was “astonishing” that students were being blamed for spreading the virus, and that universities should instead switch to online teaching.

 

“That is what the Scottish government should be introducing, not threatening students with red cards and banning them from going out,” Senior said.

 

Matt Hancock said he is not ruling out the prospect of asking students to stay on campus over Christmas, amid coronavirus clusters in university halls.

 

"The important thing is in the short-term, students once they've gone to university should stay at university so as not to spread the disease."

 

In Dundee, Abertay University, 500 students were asked to self-isolate this week in student accommodation where three people have tested (false) positive.

 

Scotland's national clinical director Professor Jason Leitch warned he is "very concerned" at the situation. "We need to be very, very careful. Even though most of those cases will not get serious illness, some of them will and some of them will potentially spread it to the community."

 

Glasgow university tweeted that a mobile testing centre will be set up at Murano residence and students affected are being supported with food and other supplies.

 

Greg Fell, director of public health for Sheffield, told Times Radio: "Clearly there are going to be times when students do legitimately need to go home for all sorts of reasons. But the recommendation is to stay in place, basically."

 

The University and College Union said the UK Government must listen to the science, look at the experiences from other countries and tell universities to make online learning their default position immediately.

Yeah threatening them with isolation and not being allowed home for Christmas.

 

I'll tell you what though this is pissing off a lot of mums now.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jack said:

Yeah threatening them with isolation and not being allowed home for Christmas.

 

I'll tell you what though this is pissing off a lot of mums now.

 

 

 

Yeah, there's no question there is dissent growing.

 

The worry is that the question is becoming "are the government handling the virus well?" not if there was no reason to lock everything down to begin with for a pretty non descript virus.

 

We could end up seeing Boris and co getting blamed and then an even bigger bunch of useful idiots trying to take more freedoms away but in a more popular way. 

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8 minutes ago, Illmatic said:

 

Yeah, there's no question there is dissent growing.

 

The worry is that the question is becoming "are the government handling the virus well?" not if there was no reason to lock everything down to begin with for a pretty non descript virus.

 

We could end up seeing Boris and co getting blamed and then an even bigger bunch of useful idiots trying to take more freedoms away but in a more popular way. 

yeah a lot i hear is testing testing testing.

 

But whats the point of testing if too many false positives.

 

Whats the point?

 

They are looking at testing at venues to be allowed in? How the fuck would that work?

 

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Just spoke to an elderly neighbour, whose favourite pastime is reading his Daily Record. He said he's fed-up with it all and hasn't been in Tesco for six months, to protect his invalid spouse, and it's getting worse. How so? I asked. The virus is increasing, he replied, because of students out partying, not obeying the rules and now they have a cheek to cry about their 'human rights! So, this must be the general consensus, as gleaned from Tabloids. A work colleague keeps reminding me that children don't get the virus, but can still pass it on. Wait...What?

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1 minute ago, Velma said:

Just spoke to an elderly neighbour, whose favourite pastime is reading his Daily Record. He said he's fed-up with it all and hasn't been in Tesco for six months, to protect his invalid spouse, and it's getting worse. How so? I asked. The virus is increasing, he replied, because of students out partying, not obeying the rules and now they have a cheek to cry about their 'human rights! So, this must be the general consensus, as gleaned from Tabloids. A work colleague keeps reminding me that children don't get the virus, but can still pass it on. Wait...What?

I don't believe there has been any evidence of kids passing the virus to anyone, so that's a load of shite that's for sure. 

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3 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

I don't believe there has been any evidence of kids passing the virus to anyone, so that's a load of shite that's for sure. 

 

Still, they have to submit to Covid tests, to return to school!

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Just now, Velma said:

 

Still, they have to submit to Covid tests, to return to school!

Had a letter from PHE from our school.

 

It says to only get tested if they have symptoms.

 

I dont think many people are going with continuous cough, lack of smell taste and the other.

 

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, kj35 said:

He also said recently when all the George Floyd stuff kicked off that he wouldn't take the knee. If he can survive for a bit in politics I'm hopeful he will be a sane voice in there. Maybe.

 

 I think you misunderstood my comment.

 

The Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab is part of the British Zionist Occupied Government.

 

He only admitted about the huge number of false positives yesterday i.e. ONLY 7% of the tests are successful in identifying those who have the virus, because

Julia Hartley-Brewer on LBC had exposed Matt Hancock and Grant Shapps this week, who pretend not to understand the maths behind the false positive rates.

It's damage limitation, but the story is HUGE.  Have the MSM put it out there? I very much doubt it.

 

 

Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab makes first official visit to Israel

From the Conservative Friends of Israhell

 

 

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https://cfoi.co.uk/foreign-secretary-dominic-raab-makes-first-official-visit-to-israel/

 

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6 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

Two hours ago!

 

 

 

Thailand is corrupt as fuck, people hate the king. They hate the PM. But the King orders him to stay.

 

I'm not too sure if he's still in germany living with loads of hookers.

 

I heard the rumour many many many years ago the royals use young blood.

 

Thailand have had lots of protests over the last few years.

 

I  think this one will be different- they revered the old king and absolutely hates this one.

Who knows will royalty fall in Thailand first? Waiting for some generals to seperate from the kings army then that will kick off

 

 

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