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8 minutes ago, serpentine said:

 

True but data belatedly released by both the CDC and the ONS indicates the death rate from those dying solely from the virus is fractional amd a lot less than say those dying from causes related to lack of access to healthcare.

Define healthcare, Serpentine.

 

Health care mostly begins with food, what a person puts into their body and mind.

 

And no one has convinced me yet that there is an actual virus.

 

That video is very old though.

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1 hour ago, Jack said:

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They are just taking the Mick out of people big time now, laughing their evil heads off. And they will believe it. I just have no words now, this farce is staring them right in the face, if they can't see now they are never going too. It's sad but true, 

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17 minutes ago, Messenger said:

Define healthcare, Serpentine.

 

Health care mostly begins with food, what a person puts into their body and mind.

 

And no one has convinced me yet that there is an actual virus.

 

That video is very old though.

 

Healthcare as defined by state and private healthcare provisions.

 

In the UK that means mainly the NHS kicking out the elderly and unwell as if they were bedblockers into a social care system devolved from the healthcare system.

 

In the US within the mainly  private healthcare system it means actively bumping people off with mistreatment to increase throughput revenues.

 

What such actions under a functioning legal system would count as I couldn't hazard a guess.

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3 minutes ago, Jaquiby said:

They are just taking the Mick out of people big time now, laughing their evil heads off. And they will believe it. I just have no words now, this farce is staring them right in the face, if they can't see now they are never going too. It's sad but true, 

 

People engaged in singing are involved in an ancient act of bonding and that in lieu of a damning silence singing together at the police is always better than individual shouts.

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1 minute ago, Jaquiby said:

They are just taking the Mick out of people big time now, laughing their evil heads off. And they will believe it. I just have no words now, this farce is staring them right in the face, if they can't see now they are never going too. It's sad but true, 

yeah first elderly are more susceptible, then Bame, then male over 40, then obese, then teens 18-20, then females 24-29.

 

It was speaking English too, 

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6 minutes ago, serpentine said:

 

Healthcare as defined by state and private healthcare provisions.

 

In the UK that means mainly the NHS kicking out the elderly and unwell as if they were bedblockers into a social care system devolved from the healthcare system.

 

In the US within the mainly  private healthcare system it means actively bumping people off with mistreatment to increase throughput revenues.

 

What such actions under a functioning legal system would count as I couldn't hazard a guess.

Yeah it's all messed up what they are doing to people.

 

This is why I advocate for farming. I really want my family to combine our money and buy a piece of land with a old school style farm house where we all live together and work a orchard of pear trees or walnut trees. My grandmother could have then passed peacefully at home with her family, not in some state funded senior assisted living.

 

This whole thing about kids moving out and getting their own place IMO is rubbish. It's a clever way to break up the family, and it is a method that has been ingrained in the minds of Americans for the last century. You're a loser if you live at home with your parents. Bullshit. But this is what Hollywood and the "education" system have taught/indoctrinated kids with for decades.

 

Get that college degree and then get a career and then buy a house with a thirty year mortgage paying interest to the bank cartel, have kids, repeat the entire process cradle to grave taxed on everything including the coffin. Then people move to other states and leave their parents behind who eventually go into an old folks home where the "food" is terrible. I've seen it happen to my own family.

 

The best healthcare methods are a family staying together and working together on an orchard growing alkaline food. This way they are sustainable with food and providing food for the community. The community are then dependent upon them the farmers/orchard, the orchard and farmers and not dependent upon the government or anyone else except customers who need the product/produce to survive.

 

The best health begins with the individual and the family, not the government.

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2 hours ago, Messenger said:

Swine flu vaccination fraud. Not the one in 2010, the ORIGINAL swine flu fraud back in 1976.

 

Deja Vu: The Swine Flu Vaccination Fraud of 1976

 

channel: The Indegraph Times

 

CBS ” 60 MINUTES” documentary on the swine flu epidemic of 1976 in the U.S. It went on air only once and was never shown again. Watch this video documentary and listen to testimony of people who caught Gullian-Barre paralysis because of the swine flu vaccine. They sued the US government for damages. 500 cases of Gullian-Barre paralysis, including 25 deaths—not due to the swine flu itself, but as a direct result of the vaccine. At the time President Gerald Ford, on advice from the CDC, called for vaccination of the ENTIRE population of the United States. The difference now, and what is the REAL danger, we have no questioning media.

 

 

 

Then president Gerald Ford, who Cathy O'Brien said she was a sex slave for, including Hillary Clinton. Cathy O'Brien wrote the book, Tranceformation of America.

 

It's amazing how so much of this is linked.

 

Thanks a lot for sharing that, fascinating stuff which I wasn't aware of. Like you said you can really see the difference in the questioning style, and it's the CDC again the same bunch of corrupt vaccine-peddling arseholes pushing the current scare. Oh how I'd love to see Bill Gates squirming like that fat morally bankrupt cunt in the video.

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I see the likes of carl benjamin and molynoo have been pretty silent. I mention these two because for people who claim to be libertarians or as moly puts it "anarcho" capitalist they both speak constantly about keeping the state out of their lives yet seem blissfully asleep as to whats currently happening and been happening all year.  They both have relatively large followings.

 

Up to them what they want to speak about i just find it astonishing that they are stuck on the election and cant see the tyranny playing out in front of them. Moly could be a 'shill' and Carls an idiot. 

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On 9/23/2020 at 2:01 PM, oddsnsods said:

Why the PCR test is not suitable for diagnosis in the words of its inventor, the 1993 Nobel Prize winner in chemistry, Kary Mullis.

 

 


I ‘liked’ this yesterday but deserves to be put out there again - people were struggling to find Kary Mullis’s actual quotes regarding his thoughts on his own PCR test and it’s non-usefulness as a diagnostic tool . In fact , “fact checkers” have been claiming he never said what he says at the start of this video . 

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Great video to share.

 

Dominic Raab, the Foreign Secretary appeared on Sky News today with the dreadful Kay Burley.

 

He said "The false-positive rate is very high, so only 7% of tests will be successful in identifying those that have the virus!" end quote.

 

And the witch Kay Burley just sat there, not saying a dickie bird.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Golden Retriever said:

Great video to share.

 

Dominic Raab, the Foreign Secretary appeared on Sky News today with the dreadful Kay Burley.

 

He said "The false-positive rate is very high, so only 7% of tests will be successful in identifying those that have the virus!

 

And the witch Kay Burley just sat there, not saying a dickie bird.

 

 

Thanks - Likes gone!

 

Kary Mulllis would say 100% false positives.

 

Not fit for purpose  

 

If this is on MSM and people are watching - then mindspace/behavioural insights. 

'king zombieland!

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21 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Great video to share.

 

Dominic Raab, the Foreign Secretary appeared on Sky News today with the dreadful Kay Burley.

 

He said "The false-positive rate is very high, so only 7% of tests will be successful in identifying those that have the virus!" end quote.

 

And the witch Kay Burley just sat there, not saying a dickie bird.

 

 

 

He also said recently when all the George Floyd stuff kicked off that he wouldn't take the knee. If he can survive for a bit in politics I'm hopeful he will be a sane voice in there. Maybe.

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Belgium has stopped using the PCR test 😄 They will use hospitalisations instead.

 

Julia Hartley-Brewer was on fire this morning on Talk Radio. Watch from 2hrs 36 min ish when she was talking about the PCR test false positive rate and other false positive tests. She talks to a statistician to get the figures right. Her whole show was brilliant today, she is doing some real journalism. 

 

 

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From Lockdowns to "The Great Reset"
https://mises.org/wire/lockdowns-great-reset

 

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This coming technocracy involves close cooperation between the heads of the digital industry and of governments. With programs such as guaranteed minimum income and healthcare for all, the new kind of governance combines strict societal control with the promise of comprehensive social justice.

 

The truth, however, is that this new world order of digital tyranny comes with a comprehensive social credit system. The People’s Republic of China is the pioneer of this method of surveillance and control of individuals, corporations, and sociopolitical entities.

 

For the individual, one’s identity is reduced to an app or chip that registers almost any personal activity. In order to gain a few individual rights, and be it only to travel to a certain place, a person must balance such apparent privileges with his submission to a web of regulations that define in detail what is “good behavior” and deemed as beneficial to humankind and the environment. For example, during a pandemic, this sort of control would extend from the obligation of wearing a mask and practicing social distancing to having specific vaccinations in order to apply for a job or to travel.

 

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The basic idea of the Great Reset is the same principle that guided the radical transformations from the French to the Russian and Chinese Revolutions. It is the idea of constructivist rationalism incorporated in the state. But projects like the Great Reset leave unanswered the question of who rules the state. The state itself does not rule. It is an instrument of power. It is not the abstract state that decides, but the leaders of specific political parties and of certain social groups.

 

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On 9/14/2020 at 4:30 PM, Mr H said:

 

Thank you.

 

 

howd it go?

my experience with the Local MP , labour, is labour are 100% behind all restrictions, masks, lockdown and actually sounded more militant than the Tories. Labour is arguing the Tories ruined everythign by acting too slow

 

so .... as most on here have recognised , the plandemic is cross-party. the political system is completely controlled and offers no remedy.

n.b this plandemic is beyond Bill Gates this is a changing of ages and governs all politics, law, business and religion

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7 hours ago, Alnitak said:

Belgium has stopped using the PCR test 😄 They will use hospitalisations instead.

 

Julia Hartley-Brewer was on fire this morning on Talk Radio. Watch from 2hrs 36 min ish when she was talking about the PCR test false positive rate and other false positive tests. She talks to a statistician to get the figures right. Her whole show was brilliant today, she is doing some real journalism. 

 

steady alnitak, talkradio is making some good sounds granted but talkradio is now using the words

disease

wearing a mask is ok to get through it

and there is a constant undertone of

"people die everyday, some will die, the economy is more important"

 

there is no chance of a Kaufman or del bigtree interview

 

to repeat, its nice on the ears but they are a licensed and regulated service provider

 

N.B still waiting for any 'Dr Bergman' style health program on any tv or radio channel. The odd mention of vit C, D and zinc.

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10 hours ago, serpentine said:

 

People engaged in singing are involved in an ancient act of bonding and that in lieu of a damning silence singing together at the police is always better than individual shouts.

 

Singing is banned at my sister's church, which defeats the whole purpose!

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i was at the school gates and one of the parents i know said to me in front of people

"you're into david icke and conspiracy theories". i'm like wtf standing there wearing my Qanon cap

i just replied "and you've took part in at least 5 conspiracies in the last 6 months"

this was 2 minutes after someone was showing their track and trace app and i'm like "you wont track me on my old nokia"

 

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10 hours ago, banjo dog said:

Saw an interview this morning on B.B.C with some one at a lower league football club which is already struggling. Interviewer said at the end fans can pay £10 to stream games live when the season starts and watch at home. This got me thinking more about children being taught via zoom etc at home. How long before schools are no longer needed and teachers replaced by A.I. Sports venues as we know them will also change beyond all recognition. If you want to you can bet on gambling web sites 24/7, virtual grey hound racing, its what some call cartoon racing. Football teams using virtual reality players, virtual reality racing drivers. Sounds a bit sci-fi which could easily become reality with the internet of ALL things. Tesco trialling deliveries by drone in Ireland. I used to be a Tesco delivery driver. During induction talk we were told that the day will come when drivers will not be needed. Its all heading in one direction. Stay at home to save lives, but then you don't need to go out any where. Food delivered, exercise in the comfort of your own home (seen the studio cycling adverts?). Want to go on holiday just cover your eyes with this and you are transported where ever you want to go. No work, no problem the government will give you just enough money to keep your self alive. You will comply. Exactly what D.I has been talking about for 30 years. David Icke, isn't he the nutter who claimed to be the son of god and thinks the queen is a lizard? FOR FUCKS SAKE PEOPLE WAKE UP. Trouble is, saying things on this forum like that is preaching to the converted. We live in hope and while you have hope you potentially have every thing.

 

Elon Musk goes further, he reckons virtual reality will be so advanced it will be impossible to tell the difference been reality and the virtual world and we will all live in a simulation. I don't believe that because I have five senses, that tell me life is real, unless his neural implant blocks them. Which I won't be getting!

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44 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

Elon Musk goes further, he reckons virtual reality will be so advanced it will be impossible to tell the difference been reality and the virtual world and we will all live in a simulation. I don't believe that because I have five senses, that tell me life is real, unless his neural implant blocks them. Which I won't be getting!

And when you look around- at the people - I reckon like 80% would go for it as long as it was worth likes and shares on social media they would jump in the pods. It's scary.

 

My daughter though she reminds me to keep fighting shes 10 and not into electronics she absolutely loves the great outdoors and her friends. Shes been sent home from school as her teacher tested positive. She is a wreck. Hates being stuck at home and having to miss football practice and matches as well as school. Loads of schools round here have kids home again now. It really is utterly shit for them.

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