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3 minutes ago, Doc said:

I'm not offended. I'm not new to this either. Do we all have to be on exactly the same page? So to answer you, yes I believe there is a virus, I also believe said virus has been circulating, possibly for years and up until now has been undetected because it's just another coronavirus. The difference with this one is that 'they' have decided they are going to use it to bring in a fucking totalitarian control system. If that makes me an arse, so be it.

Ah, let’s stop right there. I wasn’t calling you an arse. Did you see that in my post to you? No, I was calling someone else an arse. I’ll respond when that’s sunk in, been cleared up. Wouldn’t want to confuse the issue. 

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3 minutes ago, Aalob said:

Ah, let’s stop right there. I wasn’t calling you an arse. Did you see that in my post to you? No, I was calling someone else an arse. I’ll respond when that’s sunk in, been cleared up. Wouldn’t want to confuse the issue. 

If, if, if that makes me an arse. The clue was in the IF. I wasn't suggesting you had already called me an arse... I was merely giving you the choice to decide whether you thought I was an arse and also letting you know, in a passive aggressive kind of way, that I don't care either way.

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Just now, Doc said:

If, if, if that makes me an arse. The clue was in the IF. I wasn't suggesting you had already called me an arse... I was merely giving you the choice to decide whether you thought I was an arse and also letting you know, in a passive aggressive kind of way, that I don't care either way.

Oh, you were being passive aggressive? ok. Didn’t realise. I’ll let you get on with it then. I don’t do passive aggression so I’ll pass. 

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1 hour ago, Aalob said:

You said he was struggling to breath. You said he was taking big gasps of air at the end.  I asked why you didn’t tell him he could take the mask off.  It’s very simple.  Funny how you clipped my reply. Funny guy. 

sorry nature of forums

he didnt want to ... he must have thought it was protecting him :S

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2 minutes ago, zArk said:

sorry nature of forums

he didnt want to ... he must have thought it was protecting him :S

No, it’s not the ‘nature of forums’, you back pedalling weasel. You never asked him. That makes you an arse. So don’t bother replying to me again. 

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Just now, Aalob said:

No, it’s not the ‘nature of forums’, you back pedalling weasel. You never asked him. That makes you an arse. So don’t bother replying to me again. 

Haha. Definitely no passive, just aggressive. You are a legend.

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38 minutes ago, Aalob said:

No, it’s not the ‘nature of forums’, you back pedalling weasel. You never asked him. That makes you an arse. So don’t bother replying to me again. 

you know what.. ... strangely i didnt ask him if he wanted to remove the mask but theres an incredible reason why

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

I'm not offended. I'm not new to this either. Do we all have to be on exactly the same page? So to answer you, yes I believe there is a virus, I also believe said virus has been circulating, possibly for years and up until now has been undetected because it's just another coronavirus. The difference with this one is that 'they' have decided they are going to use it to bring in a fucking totalitarian control system. If that makes me an arse to you, so be it.

 

My intuition right back at the start of the year was the same and running with the ball you lobbed in that would explain why a good 80% plus of the people are immune to it whatever it is.

 

What are scientists finding in these masks that people are breathing through - is the obvious question?

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13 hours ago, Beaujangles said:

Official portrait of Mr Tobias Ellwood crop 2.jpg   

Just happened to look up Tobias Ellwood that Jeff Wyatt mentioned in the Anna Brees interview...after zooming in the face I felt I was looking at a madman... but hey...call it intuition...

 

He's MP for Bournemouth East, chairman of the Defence Select Committee, and a Lt Col in the 77th Brigade. UK Column have been talking about him for a while.

 

This is what Jeff Wyatt was talking about.

Boris to use army?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8cPB4bXx6E

 

In 2017 he got caught up in a terrorist attack near parliament.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83w4QbFLf_A

 

There's some interesting bits on his wikipekia page.

 

"His brother, Jonathan, who was director of studies at the International School Ho Chi Minh City in Vietnam, was killed in the 2002 Bali bombing."

 

"In November 2018, George Papadopoulos accused Ellwood of being a British source that was allegedly spying on Donald Trump and others, a claim which he publicly denied."

 

"In 2018, there was endorsement from many parts of the Conservative Party for Ellwood to run to be its next leader. However, he did not stand in the 2019 leadership election, but instead endorsed Matt Hancock, then subsequently Rory Stewart."

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1 hour ago, allymisfit said:

Wow, more need to see this!

 

When the opposition is controlled, there is no opposition.

 

If establishment figures like Corbyn and Hitchens, or certain (paid) nurses and doctors, are at the forefront, leading the narrative and they rail against government measures, but expound the notion that the virus is real and we just have to mitigate it's impact, or learn to live with it, or prioritise the vulnerable, or that Hydroxychloroquine will cure it, they are either disingenuous, deluded, or deliberately misleading the public. IMHO.

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4 minutes ago, bryan said:

 

He's MP for Bournemouth East, chairman of the Defence Select Committee, and a Lt Col in the 77th Brigade. UK Column have been talking about him for a while.

 

This is what Jeff Wyatt was talking about.

Boris to use army?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8cPB4bXx6E

 

In 2017 he got caught up in a terrorist attack near parliament.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83w4QbFLf_A

 

There's some interesting bits on his wikipekia page.

 

"His brother, Jonathan, who was director of studies at the International School Ho Chi Minh City in Vietnam, was killed in the 2002 Bali bombing."

 

"In November 2018, George Papadopoulos accused Ellwood of being a British source that was allegedly spying on Donald Trump and others, a claim which he publicly denied."

 

"In 2018, there was endorsement from many parts of the Conservative Party for Ellwood to run to be its next leader. However, he did not stand in the 2019 leadership election, but instead endorsed Matt Hancock, then subsequently Rory Stewart."

 

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15 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

When the opposition is controlled, there is no opposition.

 

If establishment figures like Corbyn and Hitchens, or certain (paid) nurses and doctors, are at the forefront, leading the narrative and they rail against government measures, but expound the notion that the virus is real and we just have to mitigate it's impact, or learn to live with it, or prioritise the vulnerable, or that Hydroxychloroquine will cure it, they are either disingenuous, deluded, or deliberately misleading the public. IMHO.

If there is no organised opposition now or it is being watered down gradually, infiltrated, and that seems likely based on the info from the Alma Ryan video then we're f*cked, as Ziggy Sawdust has said. I don't want it to be the case but I think now, after some serious and hard thinking, that there must be a real 'virus'  (whatever that means these days ) that they are using to justify their actions. The 'virus' IMO is a cold/flu type thing that has been going around for possibly years, but most people who had it put it down to a cold or at worst flu and haven't thought twice about it. It might even be man made specifically to achieve this purpose. Is it too hard to believe that they made this in a lab, not too lethal, easily confused as cold/flu and set it loose to do the rounds for a couple of years before deciding when the time was right to get 'lockstep' going on the premise of a Pandemic? There is always a grain of truth in the lies these wankers tell. There isn't a freedom movement in history that hasn't been infiltrated, 'they' can't have us doing something they don't have a hand in. Cnuts.

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48 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

When the opposition is controlled, there is no opposition.

 

If establishment figures like Corbyn and Hitchens, or certain (paid) nurses and doctors, are at the forefront, leading the narrative and they rail against government measures, but expound the notion that the virus is real and we just have to mitigate it's impact, or learn to live with it, or prioritise the vulnerable, or that Hydroxychloroquine will cure it, they are either disingenuous, deluded, or deliberately misleading the public. IMHO.

This is why I get so confused 😭

But in that perspective, I do agree with you 100%

 

I didn't think I could have easily got caught up in one of their dirty nets. I feel ashamed 😆 

 

 

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4 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Why the PCR test is not suitable for diagnosis in the words of its inventor, the 1993 Nobel Prize winner in chemistry, Kary Mullis.

 

 

Thanks  for posting - great info!

PCR:

-Not a diagnostic test!.

-Not good for measuring anything!    (except medical fascism!)

-There is no positive or negative result. 

 

Except for goats and papaya - they're definately infected   of course. 😉

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

If there is no organised opposition now or it is being watered down gradually, infiltrated, and that seems likely based on the info from the Alma Ryan video then we're f*cked, as Ziggy Sawdust has said. I don't want it to be the case but I think now, after some serious and hard thinking, that there must be a real 'virus'  (whatever that means these days ) that they are using to justify their actions. The 'virus' IMO is a cold/flu type thing that has been going around for possibly years, but most people who had it put it down to a cold or at worst flu and haven't thought twice about it. It might even be man made specifically to achieve this purpose. Is it too hard to believe that they made this in a lab, not too lethal, easily confused as cold/flu and set it loose to do the rounds for a couple of years before deciding when the time was right to get 'lockstep' going on the premise of a Pandemic? There is always a grain of truth in the lies these wankers tell. There isn't a freedom movement in history that hasn't been infiltrated, 'they' can't have us doing something they don't have a hand in. Cnuts.

 

You are entitled to your opinion, mine differs in that I believe most debilitating diseases come from a syringe, after a century of aggressive “immunisation” programmes by Big Pharma, but I am by no means an expert on virology. The true experts in this field died in mysterious circumstances.

 

https://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/blog/show/48693664-list-of-over-100-dead-microbiologists

 

Mosquitoes have been modified as a delivery system for whatever poison currently passes as vaccines and could be used to indiscriminately spread a real contagion, but viruses do not cross species or infect others in close proximity, like they claim is occurring with the coronavirus.

 

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/dismantling-the-viral-theory

 

However, I agree with Alma Ryan that the opposition does not need a “leader” or a designated “spokesperson” for then we are still sheep. We each have a voice and an opinion, feel free to use it while you can. We don't need to wait for Kate Shemirani to give us a rousing introduction.

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